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"liberalism" to "socialism" to "communism": The "end" justifies the "means" in America



 
 
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Old February 24th, 2007, 01:59 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe
PJ O'Donovan[_1_]
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Default "liberalism" to "socialism" to "communism": The "end" justifies the "means" in America

"I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties
class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the
goal." --Roger Baldwin, leftist, anarchist, and Communist, co-founded
the ACLU.

"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under
the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the
Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation,
without knowing how it happened."
-- Norman Thomas, co-founded the ACLU.

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Old February 24th, 2007, 02:14 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe
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Default "liberalism" to "socialism" to "communism": The "end" justifies the "means" in America

"PJ O'Donovan" wrote:

"I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties
class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the
goal." --Roger Baldwin, leftist, anarchist, and Communist, co-founded
the ACLU.

"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under
the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the
Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation,
without knowing how it happened."
-- Norman Thomas, co-founded the ACLU.

And that was in 1920! Have you got something more recent than eighty
years old? Both of them have been dead for over twenty years.
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Old February 24th, 2007, 02:17 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe
John Rennie
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Default "liberalism" to "socialism" to "communism": The "end" justifies the "means" in America


"Gordon Levi" wrote in message
...
"PJ O'Donovan" wrote:

"I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties
class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the
goal." --Roger Baldwin, leftist, anarchist, and Communist, co-founded
the ACLU.

"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under
the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the
Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation,
without knowing how it happened."
-- Norman Thomas, co-founded the ACLU.

And that was in 1920! Have you got something more recent than eighty
years old? Both of them have been dead for over twenty years.


That's the world that poor old peejay still lives in.


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Old February 24th, 2007, 02:52 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe
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Default "liberalism" to "socialism" to "communism": The "end" justifies the "means" in America

On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 13:17:24 -0000, "John Rennie"


typed:

"Gordon Levi" wrote in message
.. .
"PJ O'Donovan" wrote:

"I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties
class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the
goal." --Roger Baldwin, leftist, anarchist, and Communist, co-founded
the ACLU.

"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under
the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the
Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation,
without knowing how it happened."
-- Norman Thomas, co-founded the ACLU.

And that was in 1920! Have you got something more recent than eighty
years old? Both of them have been dead for over twenty years.


That's the world that poor old peejay still lives in.


you mean the situation has changed in the meanwhile?
next you'll want a 'modernised' version of copernicus.....

perhaps you're hoping people will forget what you really are

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Old February 24th, 2007, 05:03 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe
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Default "liberalism" to "socialism" to "communism": The "end" justifies the "means" in America


"Pajamas O'Donovan" wrote in message news:
...

"I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties
class, and sole control of those who produce wealth.

snip

Tue, Feb. 20, 2007
Associated Press

TAMPA, Fla. - Animal control authorities are not amused by a fast food
chain's marketing stunt encouraging customers to dress their cats in a
special take out bag.

Tampa-based Checkers Drive-in Restaurants Inc. is distributing
"Rapcat" bags designed with cutaway areas for the cat's legs and tail.
The cat's head sticks out the opening of the bag, which is designed to
look like to a basketball jersey and gold chain worn by the hip-hop
Rapcat puppet in Checkers commercials.

A Hillsborough County Animal Services news release on Monday said
forcing a real, unwilling cat into a "Rapcat" bag could be considered
felony animal cruelty. The bag's warning - "not all cats will be down
with wearing this bag. Do not harm or endanger any cat" - is not
enough, the agency said.

"We have no ill will toward Checkers or Rapcat as a character," said
animal services spokeswoman Marti Ryan. "Our message is that it is not
a good idea to try to stuff a cat in a bag. It's a matter of common
sense."

She said the agency is prepared to go to court if necessary to stop
the campaign.

Checkers said it means no harm.

"When our Rapcat commercials began airing last fall, they were an
overnight success," said Richard Turer, senior vice president of
marketing for Checkers. "We received dozens of letters from our guests
requesting Rapcat merchandise. Our new Rapcat Web site, cups and carry
out bags are all in response to Rapcat's popularity and are intended
only as a creative extension of our television campaign."

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Old February 24th, 2007, 05:57 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe
abelard
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Default "liberalism" to "socialism" to "communism": The "end" justifies the "means" in America

On 24 Feb 2007 08:03:49 -0800,

typed:

"Pajamas O'Donovan" wrote in message news:
om...

"I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties
class, and sole control of those who produce wealth.

snip

Tue, Feb. 20, 2007
Associated Press

TAMPA, Fla. - Animal control authorities are not amused by a fast food
chain's marketing stunt encouraging customers to dress their cats in a
special take out bag.

Tampa-based Checkers Drive-in Restaurants Inc. is distributing
"Rapcat" bags designed with cutaway areas for the cat's legs and tail.
The cat's head sticks out the opening of the bag, which is designed to
look like to a basketball jersey and gold chain worn by the hip-hop
Rapcat puppet in Checkers commercials.

A Hillsborough County Animal Services news release on Monday said
forcing a real, unwilling cat into a "Rapcat" bag could be considered
felony animal cruelty. The bag's warning - "not all cats will be down
with wearing this bag. Do not harm or endanger any cat" - is not
enough, the agency said.

"We have no ill will toward Checkers or Rapcat as a character," said
animal services spokeswoman Marti Ryan. "Our message is that it is not
a good idea to try to stuff a cat in a bag. It's a matter of common
sense."

She said the agency is prepared to go to court if necessary to stop
the campaign.

Checkers said it means no harm.

"When our Rapcat commercials began airing last fall, they were an
overnight success," said Richard Turer, senior vice president of
marketing for Checkers. "We received dozens of letters from our guests
requesting Rapcat merchandise. Our new Rapcat Web site, cups and carry
out bags are all in response to Rapcat's popularity and are intended
only as a creative extension of our television campaign."

Texans for Texas
GodBlogs
The Truth Laid Bear


bloody killjoys!

http://www.ifilm.com/video/2775616

can anyone find one of a cat in the bag :-)

regards....

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all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry
the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick.
good people do nothing [] trust actions not words
only when it's funny -- roger rabbit
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