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Another 737 goes down
But it's an -800 model, not a Max:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUwF2WEpw5A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7G9S9ahUEs https://aviation-safety.net/database...?id=20200108-0 https://www.foxnews.com/world/ukrain...180-passengers "The plane had been delayed from taking off from Tehran's Imam Khomeini International Airport by almost an hour. It never made it above 8,000 feet, crashing just minutes after takeoff, according to data from the flight-tracking website FlightRadar24. "Qassem Biniaz, a spokesman for Iran's Road and Transportation Ministry, said it appeared a fire erupted in one of its engines and the pilot lost control of the plane, according to the state-run IRNA news agency." https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/202...ane-crash.html |
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Another 737 goes down
In "Byker" writes:
"Qassem Biniaz, a spokesman for Iran's Road and Transportation Ministry, said it appeared a fire erupted in one of its engines and the pilot lost control of the plane, according to the state-run IRNA news agency." https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/202...ane-crash.html "fire erupted in one of its engines". Gee. Exactly the area where a heat seeking anti aircraft missile would hit. -- __________________________________________________ ___ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] |
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Another 737 goes down
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danny burstein wrote: In "Byker" writes: "Qassem Biniaz, a spokesman for Iran's Road and Transportation Ministry, said it appeared a fire erupted in one of its engines and the pilot lost control of the plane, according to the state-run IRNA news agency." https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/202...ane-crash.html "fire erupted in one of its engines". Gee. Exactly the area where a heat seeking anti aircraft missile would hit. Fired by whom? In what scenario would someone in Iran shoot down a civilian plane from a third country that had just taken off from the Teheran airport? It's far more likely to have been a bird strike or maintenance issue. Press releases from Ukrainian airlines say that the plane was registration number UR-PSR and it had last had routine maintenance on Monday at its home airport in Kyiv. -- Regards, John Levine, , Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly |
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Another 737 goes down
In John Levine writes:
Gee. Exactly the area where a heat seeking anti aircraft missile would hit. Fired by whom? In what scenario would someone in Iran shoot down a civilian plane from a third country that had just taken off from the Teheran airport? It's far more likely to have been a bird strike or maintenance issue. Umm, any of 250 SAM itchy finger ground crews stationed in a circle around Tehran who bumped against the "fire" button? Then again, there was TWA 800 just a few weeks after 9/11 which exploded and crashed just after takeoff from JFK. -- __________________________________________________ ___ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] |
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Another 737 goes down
In danny burstein writes:
Then again, there was TWA 800 just a few weeks after 9/11 which exploded and crashed just after takeoff from JFK. Point stands but you're thinking of AA 587. |
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Another 737 goes down
"David Pirmann" wrote in message ...
In danny burstein writes: Then again, there was TWA 800 just a few weeks after 9/11 which exploded and crashed just after takeoff from JFK. Point stands but you're thinking of AA 587. Interesting what-could-have-been: Unabomber Ted Kaczynski was arrested on April 3, 1996. TWA flight 800 blew up on July 17, 1996. Had Kaczynski not been arrested, as he had been in the prior 19 years, guess where the fingers would have been pointing? He'd tried but failed to take down an airliner in 1979: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americ...nes_Flight_444 |
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US Postal regulations, was: Another 737 goes down
In "Byker" writes:
[sniipppp] Then again, there was TWA 800 just a few weeks after 9/11 which exploded and crashed just after takeoff from JFK. Point stands but you're thinking of AA 587. Dammit, I conflated the two... The TWA flight exploded in mid air. The AA flight had a catestrophic failure of the rudder assembly. (Both scenarios were supposed to be impossible, of course). Interesting what-could-have-been: Unabomber Ted Kaczynski was arrested on April 3, 1996. TWA flight 800 blew up on July 17, 1996. Had Kaczynski not been arrested, as he had been in the prior 19 years, guess where the fingers would have been pointing? He'd tried but failed to take down an airliner in 1979: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americ...nes_Flight_444 As a kind of related point, it was back in 1996 that the US Postal Service established new rules saying any package weighing more than 16 oz (one pound) could no longer be simply plastered with stamps and dropped in a pickup box. Instead, they had to either use a fully trackable "meter strip", or brought to a post office counter. The reason was... that this was actually an FAA emergency regulation designed to safeguard aircraft. They somewhat optimistically figured that a plane could survive up to pound's worth of explosive without falling to pieces and crashing. The USPS, in turn, established their complementary regs. (The cutoff point was later lowered to 13 ounces). Given the time frame.. many people thought this was courtesy of Ted Kaszinski. In actualit, it was because of the bomb that blew up in, and brought down, TWA 800. (Well, except that's not what happened to the airplane. It turned out to be a fuel tank explosion. So of course, you're thinking, the FAA and USPS rescinded those rules. Right? Wrong.) No one's been able to explain to me why the USPS bans these packages from neighborhood post office, that is, simple truck routes that never see an aircraft. And simlarly, why they won't accept 13 oz. plus boxes that have big labels that say "Ground Transport Only". (Yes, there are official USPS stickers with that advisory) -- __________________________________________________ ___ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] |
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