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Cruise Ship Arsenal?
So, pirates went after Oceania Nautica in the Gulf of Aden. I know the
drill is to outrun the pirates, as was done, but it makes me wonder about what the cruise ships carry these days. They certainly have the flashbang devices, and can man the fire hoses to repel boarders. They must have some small arms on board, pistols and semi-automatic weapons to put down mutinies, control panicing passengers being evacuated, shoot sharks, etc. But do they have any fully automatic weapons, such as assault rifles (ie:AK-47 or something more sophisticated), and my big question would be if they have machine guns, which is what I would like to have a trained security staff use for pirate defense. I dont think they need rocket launchers, which are tricky to use, although the bad guys probably have them, as that is what was used against Seabourne. Same thing with hand grenades, which are just too dangerous unless you really know what you are doing with them. Although some smoke grenades or teargas ones would be useful, and might be in the small arms locker. Does anyone know what the ships actually carry in these troubled waters? |
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On Dec 2, 10:57*am, "Harry Jones" wrote:
So, pirates went after Oceania Nautica in the Gulf of Aden. *I know the drill is to outrun the pirates, as was done, but it makes me wonder about what the cruise ships carry these days. Does anyone know what the ships actually carry in these troubled waters? I believe the attack on Seabourn a couple of years back was warded off with some type of sonic gun ... or a mariachi band ... broadcasting the karaoke contest would have been too cruel ... |
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, number6 wrote: On Dec 2, 10:57*am, "Harry Jones" wrote: So, pirates went after Oceania Nautica in the Gulf of Aden. *I know the drill is to outrun the pirates, as was done, but it makes me wonder about what the cruise ships carry these days. Does anyone know what the ships actually carry in these troubled waters? I believe the attack on Seabourn a couple of years back was warded off with some type of sonic gun ... or a mariachi band ... broadcasting the karaoke contest would have been too cruel ... And, following the aural assault on the Papal Nunciatura in Panama, it has been declared contrary to the Geneva Convention to play rock music at high levels. |
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[Default] Thus spake "Harry Jones" :
So, pirates went after Oceania Nautica in the Gulf of Aden. I know the drill is to outrun the pirates, as was done, but it makes me wonder about what the cruise ships carry these days. They certainly have the flashbang devices, Um, 20 year old super models or "more experienced" women? One might attract the pirates. and can man the fire hoses to repel boarders. They must have some small arms on board, pistols and semi-automatic weapons to put down mutinies, control panicing passengers being evacuated, shoot sharks, etc. But do they have any fully automatic weapons, such as assault rifles (ie:AK-47 or something more sophisticated), and my big question would be if they have machine guns, which is what I would like to have a trained security staff use for pirate defense. I dont think they need rocket launchers, which are tricky to use, although the bad guys probably have them, as that is what was used against Seabourne. Same thing with hand grenades, which are just too dangerous unless you really know what you are doing with them. Although some smoke grenades or teargas ones would be useful, and might be in the small arms locker. Does anyone know what the ships actually carry in these troubled waters? -- - dillon I am not invalid When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams come true. Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteor. |
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Perhaps, it's time to bring back skeet-shooting with real targets.
This could be the on-board revenue generator of the year with classes and competition every day each ship could have a ready army in case of attack. The present idea of running away from attackers will not succeed as the culprits get faster and faster boats. Using noise will not work as they now have noise protectors of their ears. The only thing that will work to stop this growing problem is to kill the *******s. This might as well be a cruise activity and it will be fun to see which sharp-shooting passenger can kill the most. Gadget |
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In "Harry Jones"
wrote: But do they have any fully automatic weapons, such as assault rifles (ie:AK-47 or something more sophisticated), and my big question would be if they have machine guns, which is what I would like to have a trained security staff use for pirate defense. http://www.imo.org/includes/blast_bi...941&format=PDF INTERNATIONAL MARITIME ORGANIZATION MSC/Circ.623/Rev.3 PIRACY AND ARMED ROBBERY AGAINST SHIPS Guidance to shipowners and ship operators, shipmasters and crews on preventing and suppressing acts of piracy and armed robbery against ships .... Firearms 45 The carrying and use of firearms for personal protection or protection of a ship is strongly discouraged. 46 Carriage of arms on board ship may encourage attackers to carry firearms thereby escalating an already dangerous situation, and any firearms on board may themselves become an attractive target for an attacker. The use of firearms requires special training and aptitudes and the risk of accidents with firearms carried on board ship is great. In some jurisdictions, killing a national may have unforeseen consequences even for a person who believes he has acted in self defence. -- Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN |
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Nonnymus wrote: wrote: Perhaps, it's time to bring back skeet-shooting with real targets. This could be the on-board revenue generator of the year with classes and competition every day each ship could have a ready army in case of attack. The present idea of running away from attackers will not succeed as the culprits get faster and faster boats. Using noise will not work as they now have noise protectors of their ears. The only thing that will work to stop this growing problem is to kill the *******s. This might as well be a cruise activity and it will be fun to see which sharp-shooting passenger can kill the most. Gadget Excellent comment. I personally would prefer a "Street Sweeper" on a mount on each side of the bridge. Perhaps a Vulcan 20 mm as well. Since the new pirates you fast launches, a few 20 mm HEU rounds would more that discourage them. Much better than grape and chain. Recall that the ships taken so far have all been cargo /tanker ships with small crews and sitting relatively low in the water. At night you would be lucky to find one person awake on some ships. Makes a really attractive target for the new breed of pirate. Cheers, John in LALALand (On the Left Coast) |
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