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driving... in the dead of winter ...might be putting
themselves at unnecessary risk I agree. Winter driving can often be slow and stressful, and can have added risk. Plus days are shorter, and sightseeing can be much less comfortable because of the cold. If the original poster has a choice, I'd recommend vising northern areas a different time of the year when the weather is nicer. Jim |
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On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:45:21 -0700, Hatunen wrote:
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:22:04 -0400, Dave Smith wrote: Bill wrote: I also suggest skipping the Niagara Falls excursion this time. Going direct from NYC to the Falls is a long, dull drive at the best of times. The Buffalo/Niagara area is famous for bad weather in the winter, and if you're not accustomed to driving in winter conditions you could have a very unpleasant experience. It's not bad weather. It is snow. You slow down a little on the roads and it looks great. Road crews in that part of NY do a great job of sanding and plowing the roads to keep traffic moving. "Slow down a little"?? I've been on the Depew-Erie extension of the Thruway when there was a raging blizzard going. When I finally got to the toll booth I was exiting at (the next part of the Thruway was closed) I told the toll taker they should pay ME. And I was once on a bus travelling from Erie to Albany on old US-20 (before the Thruway was complete) that arrived in Albany twenty hours late. I once took a train from New York City to Buffalo just after Christmas. So much snow piled up on the platform between carriages that it became impossible to pass from one carriage to another. -- Barbara Vaughan My email address is my first initial followed by my last name at libero dot it. |
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B Vaughan wrote:
... I lived near New York City for years and always tried to get into the city at least once in the Christmas season. Snow is rare in that area in December; ... Sure, NYC is fine. That was not the issue, it was the planning to drive from NYC to Pennsylvania, to Niagara Falls, and back to NYC that (most of us) feel is not a good plan for that time of year. -- Seinfeld Lists http://tinyurl.com/f7k9d California Photos http://tinyurl.com/ann2l Sawyer's Nicknames http://tinyurl.com/gowma |
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On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:28:13 -0400, Dave Smith
wrote: Hatunen wrote: That would be the exception rather than the rule. Well, certainly. It doesn't take much in the way of exceptions to ruin a perfectly good vacation, though. It is a good thing for Florida's tourism business that people don't avoid the state because of Hurricanes, Arte you so certain that tourists don't avoid Florida during hurricane season (aside from the fact that hurricane season is the summer, not noted for tourism in Florida)? and that people haven't avoided Washington because of a volcano eruption 20 years ago, 25 years ago; I was there. Do you really think an event that may occur on a timescale of hundreds of years compares to events that happen a couple times a winter? or New York City because people get mugged. I've known people who won't go to NYC because of that very thing. We had a nasty blizzard here 29 years ago. There was about 4 feet of snow where I live and most of the roads in the area were closed for days. It was the worst blizzard that we had had in more than 100 years, and there hasn't been anything like it since. By your reckoning, the risk is still there. Where are you? You haven't said, or it got lost in the thread. And do you really think that saying that is a way of attracting tourists? ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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Hatunen wrote:
It is a good thing for Florida's tourism business that people don't avoid the state because of Hurricanes, Arte you so certain that tourists don't avoid Florida during hurricane season (aside from the fact that hurricane season is the summer, not noted for tourism in Florida)? I would avoid Florida any time in the summer because I melt in extreme heat. and that people haven't avoided Washington because of a volcano eruption 20 years ago, 25 years ago; I was there. Do you really think an event that may occur on a timescale of hundreds of years compares to events that happen a couple times a winter? You never can tell about the way some people deal with risk factors. I consider volcanoes to be extreme calamity. Snow is just a weather condition. We had a nasty blizzard here 29 years ago. There was about 4 feet of snow where I live and most of the roads in the area were closed for days. It was the worst blizzard that we had had in more than 100 years, and there hasn't been anything like it since. By your reckoning, the risk is still there. Where are you? You haven't said, or it got lost in the thread. And do you really think that saying that is a way of attracting tourists? I am in the middle of the Niagara Peninsula. |
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:37:51 -0400, Dave Smith
wrote: Hatunen wrote: It is a good thing for Florida's tourism business that people don't avoid the state because of Hurricanes, Arte you so certain that tourists don't avoid Florida during hurricane season (aside from the fact that hurricane season is the summer, not noted for tourism in Florida)? I would avoid Florida any time in the summer because I melt in extreme heat. and that people haven't avoided Washington because of a volcano eruption 20 years ago, 25 years ago; I was there. Do you really think an event that may occur on a timescale of hundreds of years compares to events that happen a couple times a winter? You never can tell about the way some people deal with risk factors. I consider volcanoes to be extreme calamity. Snow is just a weather condition. Then don't camp on volcanoes. The damage from the eruption was minor where we were (Richland and Kennewick). In fact, I was unaware tha the eruption had occured until about three hours later when the ash began to gently settle on Richland. ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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Hatunen wrote:
Then don't camp on volcanoes. The damage from the eruption was minor where we were (Richland and Kennewick). In fact, I was unaware tha the eruption had occured until about three hours later when the ash began to gently settle on Richland. Were you living in a cave? I heard about it on the radio, and I live about 2,000 miles away from there. |
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On 2006-04-27 14:37:51 -0400, Dave Smith said:
Hatunen wrote: We had a nasty blizzard here 29 years ago. There was about 4 feet of snow where I live and most of the roads in the area were closed for days. It was the worst blizzard that we had had in more than 100 years, and there hasn't been anything like it since. By your reckoning, the risk is still there. Where are you? You haven't said, or it got lost in the thread. And do you really think that saying that is a way of attracting tourists? I am in the middle of the Niagara Peninsula. The famous Blizzard of '78! We lived through it too, in Cleveland. It was even weirder because it got into the 50's the day before. There had been lots of rain and I was trying to siphon a mess of water out of our driveway. Then it started to get cold and I had to move the hose before it froze. Was I glad the next day that I had! But they have blizzards fairly often in Cleveland. There were at least two the year before. |
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:18:58 -0400, Dave Smith
wrote: Hatunen wrote: Then don't camp on volcanoes. The damage from the eruption was minor where we were (Richland and Kennewick). In fact, I was unaware tha the eruption had occured until about three hours later when the ash began to gently settle on Richland. Were you living in a cave? I heard about it on the radio, and I live about 2,000 miles away from there. It was a Sunday morning, and we spent it getting ready to go to church. We didn't turn on a radio or a TV. Remember, for us the eruption happened about 8am. For you Easterners it happened about 11am. In retrospect, I realized that it was what had rattled our big glass sliding door. And the ash clouds, which reached Richland about the time church was out, were awesome. ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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