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Old February 25th, 2010, 02:18 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Nonny wrote:

How will the "new" prices compare to the ones of earlier days before the
crash in Fall '08?


Even with fares going up and the "new" fares coming out, for the most
part, fares will not be up to 2008 levels but they are getting closer.


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Old February 25th, 2010, 03:08 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:21:37 -0800, "Nonny" wrote:

How will the "new" prices compare to the ones of earlier days
before the crash in Fall '08?


Hi Nonny,

With fares down 25-30% from 2008, a 5% rise will not get them to 2008
levels.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 03:44 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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On 2/24/10 7:40 PM, Jean O'Boyle wrote:
wrote in message


I think it is a ploy which they hope will be a self fulfilling
prophecy. Get demand to increase by scaring people into bookings now.
If they get more bookings by it then they can sustain the higher
prices.


I agree, Charles...With unemployment so high, why would they consider
raising prices?.
Sounds more like greed by using scare tactics to me .
--Jean



That's exactly the point.

At least they've been astute enough to not implement the fuel surcharge
with so many people out of work, losing their homes, on food stamps,
working only part time, or working jobs with no benefits, etc.

--Tom



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Old February 26th, 2010, 04:34 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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On Feb 25, 9:44*am, Tom K wrote:

At least they've been astute enough to not implement the fuel surcharge
with so many people out of work, losing their homes, on food stamps,
working only part time, or working jobs with no benefits, etc.


Tom,

It's highly unlikely that unemployed people on food stamps are going
to book a cruise at any price.

Warren
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Old February 26th, 2010, 11:43 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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"peter" wrote in message
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On 2/26/10 4:34 AM, in article
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"Warren"
wrote:

On Feb 25, 9:44 am, Tom K wrote:

At least they've been astute enough to not implement the fuel surcharge
with so many people out of work, losing their homes, on food stamps,
working only part time, or working jobs with no benefits, etc.


Tom,

It's highly unlikely that unemployed people on food stamps are going
to book a cruise at any price.

Warren


Also, both RCL and CCL have successfully increased marketing efforts in
Europe and Asia. Passenger numbers have been growing at double digit rates
the last couple of years and are expected to reach new records this year.
Of
course, living beyond your means is not generally the norm in Asean and
European countries.


There has also been a noticeable push for cruising in Australia. I think
RCCL and CCL are active there and have had a big increase in ships and sales
in Aus/NZ waters. Maybe our "down under" readers can provide accurate data.
From experience, that's a wonderful area to cruise and or visit. It's a
long flight, but these days it seems like every flight takes all day,
considering the waiting time.

Harry Cooper


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Old February 26th, 2010, 02:38 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Seehorse Video wrote:
"peter" wrote in message
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On 2/26/10 4:34 AM, in article
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"Warren"
wrote:

On Feb 25, 9:44 am, Tom K wrote:
At least they've been astute enough to not implement the fuel surcharge
with so many people out of work, losing their homes, on food stamps,
working only part time, or working jobs with no benefits, etc.
Tom,

It's highly unlikely that unemployed people on food stamps are going
to book a cruise at any price.

Warren

Also, both RCL and CCL have successfully increased marketing efforts in
Europe and Asia. Passenger numbers have been growing at double digit rates
the last couple of years and are expected to reach new records this year.
Of
course, living beyond your means is not generally the norm in Asean and
European countries.


There has also been a noticeable push for cruising in Australia. I think
RCCL and CCL are active there and have had a big increase in ships and sales
in Aus/NZ waters. Maybe our "down under" readers can provide accurate data.


I mentioned this on my blog a while ago. Sales and fares are way up in
Australia for Royal Caribbean. Look at

http://www.etravelblackboard.com/sho...d=101868&nav=5

Royal Caribbean is sending the Radiance of the Seas to Australia, and
the Rhapsody is already there.


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Old February 26th, 2010, 04:34 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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On 2/25/10 10:34 PM, Warren wrote:
On Feb 25, 9:44 am, Tom wrote:

At least they've been astute enough to not implement the fuel surcharge
with so many people out of work, losing their homes, on food stamps,
working only part time, or working jobs with no benefits, etc.


Tom,

It's highly unlikely that unemployed people on food stamps are going
to book a cruise at any price.

Warren


I disagree... with Walmart being the largest employer in the US and
almost everyone at Walmart considered underemployed based on their low
pay, mostly part time positions, and lack of benefits... and the same
going on in many other places, you're simply not going to fill your ship
with people who are still making the big bucks. People are out of work,
working less hours, or working part time, or at jobs making a lot less
than they did before, or even forced into early retirement with some
money but not a lot... but those people still want or need to get away
with their kids, and if the cruise lines give them an inexpensive
option, it's a way to fill the ships. The other option is to let the
ships sit idle, like new Lexus's in new car dealer parking lots...

--Tom
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Old February 26th, 2010, 04:40 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:49:08 -0600, George Leppla
wrote:

What is unusual this morning is that Carnival made a public announcement
that they were raising fares.


Hi Everyone,

As I mentioned in an earlier posting in this thread more cruise lines
are announcing price increases. I attended a meeting yesterday where
Azamara Club is raising their rates on March 1. Bookings made by
February 28, 2010 will enjoy current rates.
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Old February 26th, 2010, 06:56 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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On 2/26/10 10:54 AM, Stu wrote:


I'd like to know just who these people are that are "supposedly"
filling these ships. Everyone I know, are having a hard time of it,
and are not going to take their families anywhere unless it's a very
very good deal. More likely will use what credit they have it just to
survive until the economy gets better.
I think the cruise lines may find that their bulletins about "book now
before prices rise" may backfire if the economy does not turn around
quickly enough.


Jobs in the US have been going to Asia and Mexico by the millions since
the very early 1980's (the "Reaganomics" Greed is GOOD era, where it was
all about chasing cheap labor). That exit of jobs continued through the
Bush, Clinton, and Bush eras.

For the past 10-15 years, credit and smoke and mirrors have given us a
fake economy. But now that's seen for what it was.

Just how quickly do you expect this economy to turn around?

It took 30 years of chasing cheap labor in places like China to get us
to this point. The jobs are gone. What kind of economic turn around to
you see happening "quickly enough"? Where exactly are the jobs suddenly
going to come from to turn this economy around?

--Tom
 




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