China Travel Discussion List

THE ORIENTAL-LIST is a moderated list for those who prefer to discuss
travel in China or have their questions answered without wading through
irrelevant cross-postings, 'spam', and other trivia.

Now more than eight years old and with several hundred members, the list
provides a forum for the discussion of travel in China, and across
China's borders to the nearest major centres, such as Almaty, Bishkek,
Islamabad, Kathmandu, Hanoi, and Ulaan Baatar.

Practical travel queries; discussions of the merits of individual
destinations or routes; accounts of individual experiences; historical
and cultural material relevant to China travel; reviews and
notifications of other China travel resources (publications, websites,
public lectures, etc); political, legal, and ethical matters to do with
travel in China, and China travel news items are all welcome.

The list is moderated, with the intention of keeping it free from
irrelevant postings, and from commercial postings and 'spam'. It carries
no advertising. The list of members is not made available to any
individual or third party organisation.

Membership is, of course, free, and members include those
planning their first trips to China, experienced Asia travellers, and
the authors of several books on travel in China.

To subscribe, send a blank email to:

subscribe-oriental-list [at] datasinica [.] com

or visit

http://www.datasinica.com

"Peter Neville-Hadley" kirjoitti viestissä
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THE ORIENTAL-LIST is a moderated list for those who prefer to discuss
travel in China or have their questions answered without wading through
irrelevant cross-postings, 'spam', and other trivia.

On the other hand everyone can freely puke spam into rec.travel.asia.

Markku Grönroos wrote:

"Peter Neville-Hadley" kirjoitti viestissä
...
THE ORIENTAL-LIST is a moderated list for those who prefer to discuss
travel in China or have their questions answered without wading through
irrelevant cross-postings, 'spam', and other trivia.

On the other hand everyone can freely puke spam into rec.travel.asia.

A great deal of spam appears on rec.travel.asia, but this is not it.

rec.travel.asia is for the discussion of everything to do with travel in
Asia. The Oriental-List is to do with travel in Asia, too, and so
mentioning it here is appropriate.

Spam is the uninvited promotion of commercial activity. Unlike the very
many travel-related websites which advertise themselves here to boost
visits and gain sales for travel companies and other advertisers, The
Oriental-List carries no advertising whatsoever, and commercial postings
and spam are not only forbidden, but actively blocked on the list.

Admittedly some small latitude is given to the authors of books on China
to say something about the launch of new titles, and everyone is allowed
to mention their business briefly in a sig file but only on condition
that the remainder of their posting is generally helpful, and not
self-promotional.

No one makes any income of any kind from the list, and mentions of it
are not spam. Although it is increasingly popular and has been in
existence for more than eight years (and in all of them mentioned
rec.travel.asia) were it to disappear tomorrow it really wouldn't
matter.

Nevertheless, each reminder of the list's existence here is carefully
posted under the same heading so that frequent users of rec.travel.asia
already familiar with its contents can ignore it. The frequency is never
more than once a week, and throughout the year is far less on average.
Each reminder does, however, bring in new members, which would seem to
indicate that readers of rec.travel.asia do indeed find it relevant and
of interest.

Moderator
The Oriental-List

i see it as information that such an e-mail exists ... if it isn't
posted, how would you know it exists and how to join it?

there's absolutely no benefit to the keeper of the list as there are
no ads in the e-mails and is filled with "on-the-ground" real life
reports from real travelers as to what they're doing, where they stay,
what they ate, how much they paid etc ...

and while i can get away with "no-caps" here ...the list e-mails are a
bit more formal and as they can occasionally be long, easier to read
:-) ...

nfi ... steve emmet

On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 20:44:03 +0300, "Markku Grönroos"
wrote:


"Peter Neville-Hadley" kirjoitti viestissä
w...
THE ORIENTAL-LIST is a moderated list for those who prefer to discuss
travel in China or have their questions answered without wading through
irrelevant cross-postings, 'spam', and other trivia.

On the other hand everyone can freely puke spam into rec.travel.asia.