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Old June 16th, 2010, 10:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
vaughn
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"GrtArtiste" wrote in message
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On Jun 16, 9:19 am, "Clarence do we have clearance?"
wrote:
Maybe he shouldn't have had the fish. Thank goodness Karen Black was
working the flight!


Given this set of circumstances, what types of assistance would a
commercial-rated pilot be able to offer assuming she is not rated on
this type aircraft? I would guess-communications with ATC primarily.
What else?


Reading checklists aloud, perhaps setting radios & transponder, another set of
eyes looking for traffic.

Of course, what seems to have been left out of this story is that the Captain
was likely perfectly capable of flying the plane all by himself, but still, 1.5
pilots should be slightly safer than 1; particularly if the Captain and the
Copilot ate the same meal!.

Vaughn


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Old June 16th, 2010, 10:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,rec.arts.movies.past-films,rec.arts.tv,alt.gossip.celebrities
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Given this set of circumstances, what types of assistance would a

commercial-rated pilot be able to offer assuming she is not rated on
this type aircraft? I would guess-communications with ATC primarily.
What else?

She, as mentioned, can help run the radio. She also can read "check
lists."

The pilot knows where the various switches/levers are.

She can also call off speeds when landing.

Depending upon how much skill she has, she can double check whether the
pilot correctly did what the check list recommended. Indeed, that and the
radio are the only two areas where "flight" experience is useful.



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Old June 16th, 2010, 10:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,rec.arts.movies.past-films,rec.arts.tv,alt.gossip.celebrities
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Once Upon A Time,
John Gilmer wrote:

Given this set of circumstances, what types of assistance would a
commercial-rated pilot be able to offer assuming she is not rated on
this type aircraft? I would guess-communications with ATC primarily.
What else?


She, as mentioned, can help run the radio. She also can read "check
lists."

The pilot knows where the various switches/levers are.

She can also call off speeds when landing.


She can also re-inflate the auto-pilot, Otto, don't forget.


**
Captain Infinity
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Old June 17th, 2010, 03:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,rec.arts.movies.past-films,rec.arts.tv,alt.gossip.celebrities
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"Clarence do we have clearance?" wrote in message
...
Maybe he shouldn't have had the fish. Thank goodness Karen Black was
working the flight!

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...and-plane.html
Flight attendant helps pilot land plane
June 15, 2010

A flight attendant who has a pilot's license replaced an ill first officer
during a landing at O'Hare International Airport, officials said today.

The co-pilot of an American Airlines plane that departed San Francisco on
Monday fell sick en route to Chicago, said American spokeswoman Mary
Frances Fagan.

"He was unable to continue his duties and he moved to the passenger
cabin," Fagan said, adding that the flight's captain checked to see
whether any off-duty airline pilots were on board the flight.

A female flight attendant advised the captain that she is a commercial
pilot and the captain asked her to sit in the right-hand seat in the
cockpit, Fagan said.

"The flight attendant became the first officer on landing," she said. "The
cockpit crew did an outstanding job handling the situation."

The flight attendant helped the captain by reading off check list of
procedures and she handled other tasks, in addition to providing a second
set of eyes in the cockpit, Fagan said.

The plane, a Boeing 767 with 225 passengers and seven crew members on
board, arrived at O'Hare at 4:24 p.m. Monday. The landing was normal,
officials said.

The condition of the ill first officer was not serious, officials said. He
was met on the ground at O'Hare by paramedics and transported to a local
hospital, where he was treated and released.

The first officer was based in Chicago. He was resting on Tuesday,
officials said.


She must not have had the fish...

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Old June 17th, 2010, 04:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,rec.arts.tv,alt.gossip.celebrities
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Hatunen wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:59:17 -0700, Floyd ""Ralph\"@
ralphs.com" wrote:

Clarence do we have clearance? wrote:
Maybe he shouldn't have had the fish. Thank goodness Karen Black was
working the flight!

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...and-plane.html

Flight attendant helps pilot land plane
June 15, 2010

A flight attendant who has a pilot's license replaced an ill first
officer during a landing at O'Hare International Airport, officials said
today.

The co-pilot of an American Airlines plane that departed San Francisco
on Monday fell sick en route to Chicago, said American spokeswoman Mary
Frances Fagan.

"He was unable to continue his duties and he moved to the passenger
cabin," Fagan said, adding that the flight's captain checked to see
whether any off-duty airline pilots were on board the flight.

A female flight attendant advised the captain that she is a commercial
pilot and the captain asked her to sit in the right-hand seat in the
cockpit, Fagan said.

"The flight attendant became the first officer on landing," she said.
"The cockpit crew did an outstanding job handling the situation."

The flight attendant helped the captain by reading off check list of
procedures and she handled other tasks, in addition to providing a
second set of eyes in the cockpit, Fagan said.

The plane, a Boeing 767 with 225 passengers and seven crew members on
board, arrived at O'Hare at 4:24 p.m. Monday. The landing was normal,
officials said.

The condition of the ill first officer was not serious, officials said.
He was met on the ground at O'Hare by paramedics and transported to a
local hospital, where he was treated and released.

The first officer was based in Chicago. He was resting on Tuesday,
officials said.

Is it hard to land when sitting in the captain's lap? Just kidding, I
hope the attendant gets a chance to fly for American as a pilot.


It's a very big step from being licensed as a commercial pilot
and being licensed with an ATR (airline transport rating).

I know.
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Old June 17th, 2010, 07:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,rec.arts.tv,alt.gossip.celebrities
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Floyd ""Ralph\"@ ralphs.com" writes:

I hope the attendant gets a chance to fly for American as a pilot.


Without valid and current pilot's certifications, her chances are zero. And
she's past 60 years old, so she probably wouldn't be a good investment as a
pilot at this point in time.
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Old June 17th, 2010, 07:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,rec.arts.tv,alt.gossip.celebrities
Mxsmanic
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Hatunen writes:

It's a very big step from being licensed as a commercial pilot
and being licensed with an ATR (airline transport rating).


It's an even bigger step when the CPL and medical expired twenty years
earlier.
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Old June 17th, 2010, 07:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,rec.arts.movies.past-films,rec.arts.tv,alt.gossip.celebrities
Mxsmanic
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GrtArtiste writes:

Given this set of circumstances, what types of assistance would a
commercial-rated pilot be able to offer assuming she is not rated on
this type aircraft? I would guess-communications with ATC primarily.
What else?


The same things any non-pilot could do: move levers and buttons when the
captain asks her two, read checklists, communicate with ATC, etc. It helps a
bit if she has piloting experience, but that doesn't mean that she will be
doing anything that _requires_ piloting experience.
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Old June 17th, 2010, 07:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
Mxsmanic
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vaughn writes:

Of course, what seems to have been left out of this story is that the Captain
was likely perfectly capable of flying the plane all by himself ...


Not merely likely but certainly, by design. It's a non-event.
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Old June 17th, 2010, 08:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,rec.arts.tv,alt.gossip.celebrities
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On Jun 17, 2:42*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Hatunen writes:
It's a very big step from being licensed as a commercial pilot
and being licensed with an ATR (airline transport rating).


It's an even bigger step when the CPL and medical expired twenty years
earlier.


Think of this as a learning experience. PP and CP Licenses do not
expire.
 




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