world's worst tourists

Mxsmanic wrote:
Miguel Cruz writes:
Didn't you just tell someone else to focus on the topic and not the
discussants?

Most of the people who whispered about Andrew Carnegie are dead, and
none of them is participating here.

It's fairly clear that your use of "as well" was meant to lump David in with
them in your famous "angry young male" category. And if not, then your usage
was misleading.

miguel
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"Mxsmanic" schreef in bericht
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Sjoerd writes:

Lived nowhere.

Mxsmanic, the quality of your trolling is rapidly going down-hill. You used
to be mildly amusing, but you seem to be getting old, baby.

Sjoerd

In article ,
says...

Mxsmanic, the quality of your trolling is rapidly going down-hill. You used
to be mildly amusing, but you seem to be getting old, baby.

Just ignore him. This thread is way off-topic anyway.
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Deep Freud Moors wrote:

With all due respect to the Americans, the US is just like on TV, except
a
bit moreso. In my first visit I felt as though I had already spent much
time
there just because of the amount of US TV I have been exposed to. Europe
was, however, much more surprising in this regard, because European
culture
cannot be summed up on screen.


When I first visited the UK I thought I was in a real - life version of
_Fawlty Towers_....

I was thinking Coronation St...
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DFM

Mxsmanic wrote:

David Horne writes:

... you mistakenly confuse having a hunch, or
suspecting something, with forming an opinion.

Uh ... they are the same thing.

Uh ... sez you.

David

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Patrick Powers wrote in message
om...
"Deep Freud Moors" wrote in
message .. .
Does this make the inhabitants of Paris 'less rich' somehow?

Yes. Less freedom.


What freedoms do Americans have that Europeans don't?

(I have asked this question a number of times in usenet land, and never
gotten much of an answer)
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DFM

I can tell you that Europeans have considerably more freedom of
political choice than Americans. The number of political parties is
higher in every European country and the spectrum of political choice
much broader. Americans complain loudly and constantly about their
lack of choice but nothing much seems to be changing.

No one asked, but I find intellectual life in Bali and Nepal more free
than either Europe or the US. Surprising, isn't it?

I think we can conclude from the responses here (and elsewhere) that it very
much depends on your definition of 'freedom'. And just because you are
assured that you are the free-est, doesn't necessarily mean you actually
are. Freedom is not a universally good thing anyway, with some restrictions
being necessary for a healthy society. Just go visit a country that is in
complete anarchy, and you will see what I mean. The folks in Iraq may be
free now (by some definitions), but their incomes are half what they used to
be, and they have bugger all security. Try telling them they are much better
off!

Basically freedom is just one of a number of ingredients needed to make
society function properly. It's existence does not make one instantly better
off. This concept seems to be beyond the grasp of many people...
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DFM

David Horne writes:

Uh ... sez you.

Hunches and suspicions are not the result of deductive logic. They are
thus opinions only.

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No need to get snippy. I'm just reading posts in rec.travel.asia
and was wondering what makes it dedicated to European travel.

Frank Slootweg wrote in news:3f88555f$0$35684
:

Yourname wrote:
What makes this newsgroup dedicated to European travel?

What makes you and Mason unable to read a/the Newsgroups line?

What makes you lack the courtesy to post an interleaved response to an
interleaved response?

What makes you unable to include an attribution line?

What ... [1]

What I really wonder is why, in a newsgroup dedicated to European
travel, 10% of the posts are concerned with travel and 90% with
bashing some other country?


Mason Barge

[1] And at the moment, I'm not even grumpy, so you're warned!

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:17:30 -0700, Gerry
wrote:

In article , Mxsmanic
wrote:

Frank F. Matthews writes:

Then again the ignorant europeans who keep using the term "Ugly
American" without understanding the literary reference are cute as well.

There are precious few Americans who understand the reference, either.

Well as is the case with most words and phrases, they change over time.
Apparently the good-hearted culturally-ignorant "ugly American" is not
to be confused with the boorish tourist. But I think we can use the
words "ugly" and "American" without it's meaning being limited by the
title of a 50 year old book.

Not intelligently. The phrase is used because and only because it
describes a character in a novel, which has nearly nothing to do with
tourists or boorishness.

And their is a cost to the misuse of it, as such misuse actually
waters down the full impact of the meaning. I don't think that the
Iraqi War would be fully applicable, either, largely due to the
forthrightness of the American intervention, but it's several
magnitudes closer. And one could certainly make a case that the US,
through arrogance, lack of foresight, and ignorance, has played into
the hands of Iranian Shiites.

Graham Greene was smarter. Nobody is going to popularize a broad
usage of "The Quiet American", even though the term is even more
chilling, to my mind.

Well, of course, you can use the tem any way you want to. You can say
"irregardless" and "I have went", too. Doesn't do much for your
credibility, though.

Mason Barge

"If this is coffee, please bring me some tea. If this is tea, please bring me some coffee."
-- Abraham Lincoln

Mxsmanic wrote:

Miguel Cruz writes:

Most Americans are highly ambitious overachievers?

Compared to Europeans, yes. In the U.S., you're much more likely to
starve if you don't work for a living, and that's a powerful motivator.


Those poor Europeans without even the ambition not to starve.