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"Universal" health care and a dirty little secret about America's "uninsured"
Out of the alleged 47 million Americans uninsured, over 17 million reside in households having over $50K in annual income, over 14 million are eligible for Medicaid or SCHIP but have not enrolled and over 18 million of the uninsured are people between the ages of 18 and 34 who as a group spend more than four times as much on alcohol, tobacco, dining out and entertainment as they do on out-of-pocket spending for health care. Finally, millions of illegal immigrants are also included in the number of Americans without insurance. Single-Payer health care advocates with their collectivist mentalities often point to 45 million uninsured Americans as a "moral disgrace". However, it's hard to know whether they mean that the more than 17 million people (37% of the uninsured) who make more than $50K a year are "immoral" for not choosing to buy health insurance - or - our government is immoral for not forcing them to. Are the 14 million of the poor who are eligible for state paid Medicaid medical insurance "immoral" for never getting around to enrolling in it -or- is government "immoral" for not coercing them to enroll? The problem of managing health in a free country is that people are free to assume risk and self insure if they choose to do so and government cannot make people choose healthy lifestyle choices in a free society. As a result many choose to gamble. Most will win by not paying health care insurance premiums while a few will loose by paying for their own health care expenses out of pocket as they are incurred. That is the American way whether the Socialists of the world like it or not, The poor cannot be coerced to get it together to enroll in Medicare if they qualify without a gestapo type enforcement scheme The challenge is not in providing services. Adequate health services already exist and millions of us like it the way it is and if Socialists don't like it they can lump it.. |
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"Universal" health care and a dirty little secret about America's "uninsured"
....over 14 million are eligible for Medicaid or SCHIP but have not
enrolled ...Are the 14 million of the poor who are eligible for state paid Medicaid medical insurance "immoral" for never getting around to enrolling in it -or- is government "immoral" for not coercing them to enroll? PJ Are the poor always informed of their rights? If you are poorly educated or even illiterate, if English was not your first language, you may have a problem in this area. If they do not realize they qualify they will not enroll. Donna Evleth I noticed signs in the hospital emergency room are in both English and Spanish indicating patients' right to access health care regardless of ability to pay. All state and federal agencies I have called in recent years start with a menu recording where you press "1" for English or "2" for Spanish. Just a few days ago I was in the post office line and one of the Spanish speaking patrons was having trouble understanding English and the clerk first aked if anyone in the line could translate and then went into the back of the post office and returned with a Hispanic postal employee fluent in Spanish. Again, a few days ago we were in a local restaurant for lunch and were met by 50 or so local kindergarten kids out on a field trip in the restaurant for lunch. I noticed quite a few kids appeared to be Hispanic and one of the young teachers appeared Hispanic but spoke English with a typical southern Georgia accent even to the Hispanic looking kids. She was probably second geneneration and spoke English with the local accent which is not unusual in these parts. However when one of the Hispanic kids started misbehaving she tore into him in Spanish with words coming out like a machine gun. I don't think this "language problem" is as much of an excuse for poor individual responsibility as you would like it to be being the Socialist you are. The Asians don't appear to have a problem either. If outcomes of Life expectancy and infant mortality as the true barometer of healthcare efficiency that many here are advancing, Asians have better outcomes than white Americans as infant mortality rates indicate below: http://www.unitedhealthfoundation.or...Disparity.html US Infant Mortality Rate By Race or Ethnicity, 2000-2002 Race Deaths per 1,000 Live Births All Races 6.9 Non-Hispanic White 5.7 Non-Hispanic Black 13.6 American Indian or Alaskan Native 8.9 Asian, Pacific Islanders 4.8 Hispanic* 5.5 On Apr 15, 3:02 am, "P J O'donovan" wrote: Out of the alleged 47 million Americans uninsured, over 17 million reside in households having over $50K in annual income, over 14 million are eligible for Medicaid or SCHIP but have not enrolled and over 18 million of the uninsured are people between the ages of 18 and 34 who as a group spend more than four times as much on alcohol, tobacco, dining out and entertainment as they do on out-of-pocket spending for health care. Finally, millions of illegal immigrants are also included in the number of Americans without insurance. Single-Payer health care advocates with their collectivist mentalities often point to 45 million uninsured Americans as a "moral disgrace". However, it's hard to know whether they mean that the more than 17 million people (37% of the uninsured) who make more than $50K a year are "immoral" for not choosing to buy health insurance - or - our government is immoral for not forcing them to. Are the 14 million of the poor who are eligible for state paid Medicaid medical insurance "immoral" for never getting around to enrolling in it -or- is government "immoral" for not coercing them to enroll? The problem of managing health in a free country is that people are free to assume risk and self insure if they choose to do so and government cannot make people choose healthy lifestyle choices in a free society. As a result many choose to gamble. Most will win by not paying health care insurance premiums while a few will loose by paying for their own health care expenses out of pocket as they are incurred. That is the American way whether the Socialists of the world like it or not, The poor cannot be coerced to get it together to enroll in Medicare if they qualify without a gestapo type enforcement scheme The challenge is not in providing services. Adequate health services already exist and millions of us like it the way it is and if Socialists don't like it they can lump it.. |
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