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if you are over 65...
In London, tubes and buses are free for London over 65 residents;
London is still free for 0ver 60's residents (provided that they have applied for the appropriate pass) Climbing on my soapbox for a moment - I do not think schemes like free bus passes are a good idea. The costs of providing these schemes have to be paid for somehow They more than pay for themselves in improved health (hence reduced care and medical bills) for retired people who use the buses to get out doing things that they otherwise couldn't afford. If you live in some barbaric ******** where the elderly don't get any care or medical assistance out of the public purse the figures probably look different. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- e m a i l : j a c k @ c a m p i n . m e . u k Jack Campin, 11 Third Street, Newtongrange, Midlothian EH22 4PU, Scotland mobile 07800 739 557 http://www.campin.me.uk Twitter: JackCampin |
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Surreyman wrote:
On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 2:37:41 PM UTC+1, Jack Campin wrote: ...a member of an EU state, and have ID to prove it, you can travel free on public transport in Budapest. I wonder when England is going to join the EU? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- e m a i l : j a c k @ c a m p i n . m e . u k Jack Campin, 11 Third Street, Newtongrange, Midlothian EH22 4PU, Scotland mobile 07800 739 557 http://www.campin.me.uk Twitter: JackCampin And throughout London Really? I'm 81 and might get back there. . . Oh, but I'm a benighted American. . . -- biblioholic medievalist |
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On 7/15/2015 4:06 PM, Jack Campin wrote:
S Viemeister wrote: I was ever so slightly annoyed to discover that my Highland Council-issued bus pass wasn't valid on the Edinburgh trams, though it did work on the bus. Same with mine, issued in Midlothian. I'm not that bothered as I can't imagine ever wanting to use the Edinburgh tram. I use it between Haymarket and the airport. The annoying thing is I'll have to pay full price on the Borders Railway, which has a station five minutes walk from where I live. That starts up in a few weeks. I understand that the Borders Railway will be getting the carriages presently used on the North Highland line. |
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On 07/15/2015 11:50 PM, Jack Campin wrote:
In London, tubes and buses are free for London over 65 residents; London is still free for 0ver 60's residents (provided that they have applied for the appropriate pass) Climbing on my soapbox for a moment - I do not think schemes like free bus passes are a good idea. The costs of providing these schemes have to be paid for somehow They more than pay for themselves in improved health (hence reduced care and medical bills) for retired people who use the buses to get out doing things that they otherwise couldn't afford. If you live in some barbaric ******** where the elderly don't get any care or medical assistance out of the public purse the figures probably look different. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- e m a i l : j a c k @ c a m p i n . m e . u k Jack Campin, 11 Third Street, Newtongrange, Midlothian EH22 4PU, Scotland mobile 07800 739 557 http://www.campin.me.uk Twitter: JackCampin Quite so, but then why not raise the pensions so that they can decide for themselves if they want to spend it on bus tickets or not. |
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"Tom P" wrote in message ... On 07/15/2015 11:50 PM, Jack Campin wrote: In London, tubes and buses are free for London over 65 residents; London is still free for 0ver 60's residents (provided that they have applied for the appropriate pass) Climbing on my soapbox for a moment - I do not think schemes like free bus passes are a good idea. The costs of providing these schemes have to be paid for somehow They more than pay for themselves in improved health (hence reduced care and medical bills) for retired people who use the buses to get out doing things that they otherwise couldn't afford. If you live in some barbaric ******** where the elderly don't get any care or medical assistance out of the public purse the figures probably look different. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- e m a i l : j a c k @ c a m p i n . m e . u k Jack Campin, 11 Third Street, Newtongrange, Midlothian EH22 4PU, Scotland mobile 07800 739 557 http://www.campin.me.uk Twitter: JackCampin Quite so, but then why not raise the pensions so that they can decide for themselves if they want to spend it on bus tickets or not. because many don't use their bass pass at all, So either it will cost you more, of if you give everyone the average amount those that do will lose out tim |
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On 07/16/2015 10:01 PM, tim..... wrote:
"Tom P" wrote in message ... On 07/15/2015 11:50 PM, Jack Campin wrote: In London, tubes and buses are free for London over 65 residents; London is still free for 0ver 60's residents (provided that they have applied for the appropriate pass) Climbing on my soapbox for a moment - I do not think schemes like free bus passes are a good idea. The costs of providing these schemes have to be paid for somehow They more than pay for themselves in improved health (hence reduced care and medical bills) for retired people who use the buses to get out doing things that they otherwise couldn't afford. If you live in some barbaric ******** where the elderly don't get any care or medical assistance out of the public purse the figures probably look different. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- e m a i l : j a c k @ c a m p i n . m e . u k Jack Campin, 11 Third Street, Newtongrange, Midlothian EH22 4PU, Scotland mobile 07800 739 557 http://www.campin.me.uk Twitter: JackCampin Quite so, but then why not raise the pensions so that they can decide for themselves if they want to spend it on bus tickets or not. because many don't use their bass pass at all, So either it will cost you more, of if you give everyone the average amount those that do will lose out tim But why should the ones who do use the bus pass be better of than the ones that don't or can't get on a bus? What about pensioners who are too disabled to get on a bus at all? Like I say, the system is discriminatory and wasteful. |
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"Tom P" wrote in message ... On 07/16/2015 10:01 PM, tim..... wrote: because many don't use their bass pass at all, So either it will cost you more, of if you give everyone the average amount those that do will lose out tim But why should the ones who do use the bus pass be better of than the ones that don't because OAPs who use the bus pass tends to based upon need. And the current system makes them better off at no cost to the people who choose not to use their pass or can't get on a bus? What about pensioners who are too disabled to get on a bus at all? That's a different problem Like I say, the system is discriminatory In what way? and wasteful. just like all social benefits, if it doesn't match your political view of "need" it can be shown to be wasteful. tim |
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On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 8:25:04 PM UTC+1, tim..... wrote:
"Tom P" wrote in message ... On 07/16/2015 10:01 PM, tim..... wrote: because many don't use their bass pass at all, So either it will cost you more, of if you give everyone the average amount those that do will lose out tim But why should the ones who do use the bus pass be better of than the ones that don't because OAPs who use the bus pass tends to based upon need. And the current system makes them better off at no cost to the people who choose not to use their pass or can't get on a bus? What about pensioners who are too disabled to get on a bus at all? That's a different problem Like I say, the system is discriminatory In what way? and wasteful. just like all social benefits, if it doesn't match your political view of "need" it can be shown to be wasteful. tim I've just seen that, at 65+, I'm about to get free entry into Pompeii, Herculaneum etc. next month. Well done Italy! |
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On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 10:45:01 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 02:07:56 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman wrote: On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 8:25:04 PM UTC+1, tim..... wrote: "Tom P" wrote in message ... On 07/16/2015 10:01 PM, tim..... wrote: because many don't use their bass pass at all, So either it will cost you more, of if you give everyone the average amount those that do will lose out tim But why should the ones who do use the bus pass be better of than the ones that don't because OAPs who use the bus pass tends to based upon need. And the current system makes them better off at no cost to the people who choose not to use their pass or can't get on a bus? What about pensioners who are too disabled to get on a bus at all? That's a different problem Like I say, the system is discriminatory In what way? and wasteful. just like all social benefits, if it doesn't match your political view of "need" it can be shown to be wasteful. tim I've just seen that, at 65+, I'm about to get free entry into Pompeii, Herculaneum etc. next month. Well done Italy! but somebody employed by the mafia will still charge you EURO 5 or more to protect your car in the car park. -- Martin in Zuid Holland Cheapy train ticket from Sorrento. :-)) |
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On Sunday, July 19, 2015 at 11:38:18 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 01:56:04 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman wrote: On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 10:45:01 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote: On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 02:07:56 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman wrote: On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 8:25:04 PM UTC+1, tim..... wrote: "Tom P" wrote in message ... On 07/16/2015 10:01 PM, tim..... wrote: because many don't use their bass pass at all, So either it will cost you more, of if you give everyone the average amount those that do will lose out tim But why should the ones who do use the bus pass be better of than the ones that don't because OAPs who use the bus pass tends to based upon need. And the current system makes them better off at no cost to the people who choose not to use their pass or can't get on a bus? What about pensioners who are too disabled to get on a bus at all? That's a different problem Like I say, the system is discriminatory In what way? and wasteful. just like all social benefits, if it doesn't match your political view of "need" it can be shown to be wasteful. tim I've just seen that, at 65+, I'm about to get free entry into Pompeii, Herculaneum etc. next month. Well done Italy! but somebody employed by the mafia will still charge you EURO 5 or more to protect your car in the car park. Cheapy train ticket from Sorrento. :-)) Very cunning! Pick pockets at the station? :-) -- Martin in Zuid Holland Since I got done for the first time ever in Malaga a few years ago (and never ever in the Morocco/Jordan swathe of over 50 years of travels) my body has become inviolate (for pickpocketing, anyway!). For any interested, a day pass on the Sorrento/Naples circuit railway is a few Euros and entry into Pompeii, Herculaneum etc. is free for 65+. That saves a couple some 100 Euros over the local day trips and thus provides for a couple of splendid meals! |
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