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Old July 7th, 2004, 03:53 PM
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Losing weight? In Asia? How could one possibly lose weight in Asia?


By not being able to afford to eat that much.


Afford? Do you mean physically or financially? Or do you mean finding
food is a problem? I can hardly believe the last as personally I
cannot stop eating in Asia, all the time, everywhere.

Mosquitos? Well yeah, there are mosquitos, if you spend 5$ a day or
100$ a day, same same.


No. If you spend $5 a day on a cheap guest house you'll find you have
bigger mosquito problems at night than if you stay in a good quality
hotel.


True to a certain extent. If you stay in a 5$ cheap guesthouse, take a
mosquito net. Or travel in the non-mozzie season. Never seen a
mosquito during the Thai winter (and no, I don't travel in really,
really, remote jungle areas and I don't think the average visitor does
either).

Transportation expenses? This remark shows you
haven't travelled that much in Asia.


I'm a legal resident of Indonesia. I have a house in Thailand. I spend
probably 10-11 months a year in Asia. In the last 15 years I've
probably spent a total of about 10 years cumulative in Asia.

You?


Some people spend 5 years hanging around Bangkok ('teaching') or
around Pattaya ('doing business'haha) so the amount you have 'spent'
in Asia isn't really relevant.

Personally I never even include
transportation expenses in my cost calculation. You can travel from
Beijing to Kashgar for less than 100$,


And if you're on a $20 a day budget you don't include $100 in your
calculations????


No, I don't. Travelling from Beijing to Kashgar, if done at leisurely
pace, takes say 3 to 4 months. That's 1$ a day. Istanbul to Delhi,
easily 6 months, like half a dollar a day. The Indochina loop, easily
3 months or so, again a dollar a day. --- So, yes, transportation
expenses are irrelevant.


Gimme a break, come on. We're talking Asia, not the US.


That's right. And if you're willing to live poor, you can make it on
that amount. If not, you can't.


Live poor? I've never lived poor. I have always stayed in OK hotels
(not the 3$ dodgy places), I have always eaten very well (never even
got sick in India), I have always travelled very slowly so I could
learn to find the good deals and learnt the real prices. It's amazing
how cheap and how good and how immensily interesting life in a quiet
privincial town can be, as I am sure you know, having a house out
there.



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Old July 7th, 2004, 03:53 PM
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Losing weight? In Asia? How could one possibly lose weight in Asia?


By not being able to afford to eat that much.


Afford? Do you mean physically or financially? Or do you mean finding
food is a problem? I can hardly believe the last as personally I
cannot stop eating in Asia, all the time, everywhere.

Mosquitos? Well yeah, there are mosquitos, if you spend 5$ a day or
100$ a day, same same.


No. If you spend $5 a day on a cheap guest house you'll find you have
bigger mosquito problems at night than if you stay in a good quality
hotel.


True to a certain extent. If you stay in a 5$ cheap guesthouse, take a
mosquito net. Or travel in the non-mozzie season. Never seen a
mosquito during the Thai winter (and no, I don't travel in really,
really, remote jungle areas and I don't think the average visitor does
either).

Transportation expenses? This remark shows you
haven't travelled that much in Asia.


I'm a legal resident of Indonesia. I have a house in Thailand. I spend
probably 10-11 months a year in Asia. In the last 15 years I've
probably spent a total of about 10 years cumulative in Asia.

You?


Some people spend 5 years hanging around Bangkok ('teaching') or
around Pattaya ('doing business'haha) so the amount you have 'spent'
in Asia isn't really relevant.

Personally I never even include
transportation expenses in my cost calculation. You can travel from
Beijing to Kashgar for less than 100$,


And if you're on a $20 a day budget you don't include $100 in your
calculations????


No, I don't. Travelling from Beijing to Kashgar, if done at leisurely
pace, takes say 3 to 4 months. That's 1$ a day. Istanbul to Delhi,
easily 6 months, like half a dollar a day. The Indochina loop, easily
3 months or so, again a dollar a day. --- So, yes, transportation
expenses are irrelevant.


Gimme a break, come on. We're talking Asia, not the US.


That's right. And if you're willing to live poor, you can make it on
that amount. If not, you can't.


Live poor? I've never lived poor. I have always stayed in OK hotels
(not the 3$ dodgy places), I have always eaten very well (never even
got sick in India), I have always travelled very slowly so I could
learn to find the good deals and learnt the real prices. It's amazing
how cheap and how good and how immensily interesting life in a quiet
privincial town can be, as I am sure you know, having a house out
there.



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Old July 7th, 2004, 03:55 PM
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You talk your fantasies, not Asia.


How could you possibly say the original poster can't live well for a
year in Asia? Come on. Sure he'll spend a little more the few days
he's in Hong Kong and Singapore. Same thing, he'll spend 5$ a day for
a month or so hiking the Annapurna Circuit in Nepal, which nicely
evens out the occasional splurges.

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Old July 7th, 2004, 03:57 PM
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It's amazing
how cheap and how good and how immensily interesting life in a quiet
privincial town can be, as I am sure you know, having a house out
there.



a quiet provincial town in Thailand, I mean

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Old July 7th, 2004, 03:57 PM
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It's amazing
how cheap and how good and how immensily interesting life in a quiet
privincial town can be, as I am sure you know, having a house out
there.



a quiet provincial town in Thailand, I mean

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Old July 7th, 2004, 04:11 PM
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me wrote in message . ..

you *MIGHT* make it.


Gimme a break, come on. We're talking Asia, not the US.


Asia, US, wherever, you still have to pay for food, clothing, and
shelter, and you might not factor travel expenses into your budget,
but most people do. I'd say it's foolish to plan on having less than
$50 a day. You might only need $20, but if an emergency happens it's
nice to have *some* cushion.

John W.
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Old July 7th, 2004, 04:11 PM
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me wrote in message . ..

you *MIGHT* make it.


Gimme a break, come on. We're talking Asia, not the US.


Asia, US, wherever, you still have to pay for food, clothing, and
shelter, and you might not factor travel expenses into your budget,
but most people do. I'd say it's foolish to plan on having less than
$50 a day. You might only need $20, but if an emergency happens it's
nice to have *some* cushion.

John W.
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Old July 7th, 2004, 06:21 PM
Markku Grönroos
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Spehro Pefhany kirjoitti:

I tend to lose weight too, at least when I travel alone. Food just
isn't that important to me when I'm on the move. I stayed 5 days in
Hong Kong last year and actually bought NO food at all (free lunch
snacks from a VIP program, "free" breakfast at the hotel and one
client dinner). I also walk a LOT on vacations and tend to go to sleep
early without a big (often without any) dinner.

Im am not a gourmet myself. However, I about always do gain weight
during my holiday rather than lose it. For instance when I returned from
Indonesia a couple of years ago I teased my scale by 97 kg. By christmas
I lost some 5 kg but then again at dinner table with santa claus....

I recommend everyone to eat as regularly as possible. A good night's
rest is most important as well for those who get blisters in their feet.
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Old July 7th, 2004, 06:32 PM
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I recommend everyone to eat as regularly as possible.


Too true. Never ever skimp on food.

Oh yeah and when in Malaysia, eat, eat, eat, eat, best food on the
planet.


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Old July 7th, 2004, 06:42 PM
Miguel Cruz
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me wrote:
Transportation expenses? This remark shows you haven't travelled that much
in Asia. Personally I never even include transportation expenses in my
cost calculation. You can travel from Beijing to Kashgar for less than
100$, from Istanbul to Delhi for l00$, from Bangkok to Phnom Penh to
Saigon to Hanoi to Vientiane and back to Bangkok for 100$.


Heck, just today my sister bought a ticket on AirAsia from Bangkok to Udon
Thani (a few miles from the Laos border) for US$10. On that day they'll fly
several hundred miles, split a $12 room in a guesthouse (while the
backpackers are paying $5 down the street), eat two meals out, and still
squeeze in just under $20.

miguel
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