Detained at the whim of the president

Who is cooking up the books here?


The claim that Howard Dean is a grassroots candidate is another, media
circus delusion. Senator Paul Wellstone is what you call a grassroots
candidate. Republicans think that if they can pour money into an
Internet campaign to make a loser like Howard Dean a so called
populist, they can manipulate the election. I knew Senator Paul
Wellstone and he is no Howard Dean.

http://paul.alturl.com

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:24:59 +0100, "Oelewapper"
wrote:

"Pan Ohco" wrote in message


Tell did you not hear of the Saddam personal bodyguard who is (six
months after the fall of Saddam) a member of al Queda, who is now in
charge of terrorism in northern Iraq.
Intelligence discovered during the Clinton administration showed (
not proved) a connection between Saddam and al Queda, according to the
liberal press.


Ohco, Give us a break !!!

Intelligence discovered during the Bush administration has shown a lot of
things, or rather: has CLAIMED a lot of things, but so far has failed to
show up with any proof to substantiate the lies Bush and his cronies had to
rely on to get us into this war. It just doesn't make sense. There simply
was no pre-war connection between the Pan-Arabic, socialist, nationalist,
secular Baathism one finds in Iraq or Syria, and the kind of
internationalist, Pan-Muslim, integrist, religious Jihad Al Quaeda stands
for. In that perspective, W. Bush himself; in his crusade for infinite
justice and the war on terror, is a lot closer to Osama than Saddam ever
was, certainly in the run-up to the invasion. Not too mention the very
close business links between the Bushies and the Bin Laden Family... What
happened to those pages in the infamous 9/11 report??? Now how was that for
intelligence...



www.bushlies.com

Toronto Star

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
the friend of my enemy is my enemy. (Arab proverb)



You avoided my question about the ex body guard of Saddam.

Nice URL, a story about a book written by some one that I never heard
of. The author whom dislikes the President.


Pan Ohco

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 05:19:33 GMT, "Sunny"
wrote:


"Pan Ohco" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 06:01:46 GMT, "Sunny"
wrote:


More than 2,000 Australian troops fought alongside American and British
troops in the campaign
SASR, Inf, RAAF F18s, Tankers, we still have 800+ Infantry in Baghdad,
Navy
ships in the Gulf ,
It's our RAAF that is running Baghdad airport atm.
Read some of your own bloody newspapers you lazy one eyed fool.
It's arseholes like you that give Americans a bad name.
http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Falconer
http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Vi...Commitment.htm
http://www.defence.gov.au/index.cfm


Sunny I would like to say Thank You for your support.

And yes we have our share of "arseholes".
Pan Ohco

Thank you as well, I served in SVN and it got under my skin, that the fool
was too blind lazy to read up on a subject before becoming a motor mouth :-)



S. Dunlap just posted the following:

You forgot Honduras and the Dominican Republic- and here is a list of
who supplied what.

Albania — 71 non-combat troops in northern Iraq.
Azerbaijan — 150 troops for law enforcement and protection of
religious and historic monuments in Iraq.
Bulgaria — 485 troops patrolling Karbala, south of Baghdad. An
additional 289 are to be sent.
Central America and the Caribbean:
Dominican Republic (300 troops),
El Salvador (360),
Honduras (360)
Nicaragua (120)
Czech Republic — 296 troops and three civilians running a field
hospital in Basra, and a small detachment of military police.
Denmark — 406 troops, including light infantry, medics and military
police. An additional 90 soldiers are being sent.
Georgia — 69 troops, including 34 special forces soldiers, 15
engineers and 20 medics.
Estonia — 55 troops.
Hungary — 300 transportation troops.
Italy — 3,000 troops.
Kazakhstan — 27 troops.
Latvia — 106 troops.
Lithuania — 90 troops.
Macedonia — 28 troops.
Moldova — Several dozen of de-mining specialists and medics.
Netherlands — 1,106 troops, including 650 marines, three Chinook
transport helicopters, a logistics team, a field hospital, a commando
contingent, military police and a unit of 230 military engineers.
New Zealand — 61 army engineers for reconstruction work in southern
Iraq.
Norway — 156 troops, including engineers and mine clearers.
Philippines — 177 troops.
Poland — 2,400 troops, command of one of three military sectors in
Iraq.
Portugal — 120 police officers.
Romania — 800 troops, including 405 infantry, 149 de-mining
specialists and 100 military police, along with a 56-member special
intelligence detachment.
Slovakia — 82 military engineers.
South Korea — 675 non-combat troops with more forces on the way. But
Seoul will cap its force at 3,000 rebuffing Washington's request for
additional soldiers.
Spain — 1,300 troops, mostly assigned to police duties in
south-central Iraq.
Thailand — 400 troops assigned to humanitarian operations.
Ukraine — 1,640 troops.
United Kingdom — 7,400 troops, with an additional 1,200 planned




Australia -- 250 in Iraq. ***************************************


Mongolia -- 171 troops

end of quote from S. Dunlap

Ok, Sunny for that amount of support , Australia can bid on a prime
contract.

How about the beer contract?

"john" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 05:19:33 GMT, "Sunny"
wrote:
Australia -- 250 in Iraq. ***************************************
end of quote from S. Dunlap

Source ?

Did you bother to look here : ?
http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Falconer
http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Vi...Commitment.htm
http://www.defence.gov.au/index.cfm

"The Wolf" wrote in message
...
On 12/10/2003 10:18 PM, in article ,
"Nik" opined:


And since the good old Fidel took over power in Cuba the US hasn't paid
rent. One might actually argue that the base is occupied land.


Nik.



Hey asshole, get your facts straight.

The U.S. HAS paid the rent every year. Castro doesn't cash the checks.


Which means that they haven't paid!

Nik.

Nik muttered....


"The Wolf" wrote in message
...
On 12/10/2003 10:18 PM, in article
, "Nik"
opined:


And since the good old Fidel took over power in Cuba the US hasn't
paid rent. One might actually argue that the base is occupied land.


Nik.



Hey asshole, get your facts straight.

The U.S. HAS paid the rent every year. Castro doesn't cash the
checks.


Which means that they haven't paid!

Obviously, the nuances of contract law escape you. Rendering payment in
negotiable form covers the specific performance required, IIRC, and
"cashing the check" is not required (unless the contract called for payment
in specie or apples, etc.).

TMO

john wrote in message . ..
OK, Fair enough--Poland was part of the coalition-- all but a small
part.

You guys can be the prime contractor for Polish sausage and potato
blintzes.

Well, since we were in Iraq mainly building factories, bridges, roads
etc i guess our companies, which were present for years in Iraq and
lost contracts because Poland backed USA, would want to continue their
past activities.

I see, so you go to the store, pick up some merchandise, write a check which
the merchant decides not to cash. By your logic you have not paid and are a
thief!

Jarg


"Nik" wrote in message
...

"The Wolf" wrote in message
...
On 12/10/2003 10:18 PM, in article ,
"Nik" opined:


And since the good old Fidel took over power in Cuba the US hasn't
paid
rent. One might actually argue that the base is occupied land.


Nik.



Hey asshole, get your facts straight.

The U.S. HAS paid the rent every year. Castro doesn't cash the checks.


Which means that they haven't paid!

Nik.

How narrow minded can you possibly be?

Let me put it this way. I "rent" your car. Mail you a check of one dollar
each year and your should be glad and happy. Well - if you cash in the check
I have all reason to believe that you are in fact glad and happy. If you
don't and continue to protest and do not cash in the check you are in a very
different position.

Nik.

"Jarg" wrote in message
...
I see, so you go to the store, pick up some merchandise, write a check
which
the merchant decides not to cash. By your logic you have not paid and are
a
thief!

Jarg


"Nik" wrote in message
...

"The Wolf" wrote in message
...
On 12/10/2003 10:18 PM, in article
,
"Nik" opined:


And since the good old Fidel took over power in Cuba the US hasn't
paid
rent. One might actually argue that the base is occupied land.


Nik.



Hey asshole, get your facts straight.

The U.S. HAS paid the rent every year. Castro doesn't cash the checks.


Which means that they haven't paid!

Nik.

If thinking more clearly than you constitutes narrow mindedness then I wear
that label proudly. In this case narrow minded seems to mean not agreeing
with you, which would be the normal reaction of any rational person.

As to you attempt at an argument, if I agreed to the one dollar rental
price then we have a contract and that is that. If I want to change the
terms after the fact you are well within your rights to refuse. Really
pretty simple if you would bother to give it any thought.

Jarg

"Nik" wrote in message
...
How narrow minded can you possibly be?

Let me put it this way. I "rent" your car. Mail you a check of one dollar
each year and your should be glad and happy. Well - if you cash in the
check
I have all reason to believe that you are in fact glad and happy. If you
don't and continue to protest and do not cash in the check you are in a
very
different position.

Nik.

"Jarg" wrote in message
...
I see, so you go to the store, pick up some merchandise, write a check
which
the merchant decides not to cash. By your logic you have not paid and
are
a
thief!

Jarg


"Nik" wrote in message
...

"The Wolf" wrote in message
...
On 12/10/2003 10:18 PM, in article
,
"Nik" opined:


And since the good old Fidel took over power in Cuba the US hasn't
paid
rent. One might actually argue that the base is occupied land.


Nik.



Hey asshole, get your facts straight.

The U.S. HAS paid the rent every year. Castro doesn't cash the
checks.


Which means that they haven't paid!

Nik.