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Looking for suggestions. I've been playing around with river cruise websites, for a future(2018?)trip with a friend who does not speak German along the river I know best, but she is a much better walker than I am. Viking requires everyone to pay in advance for all their hikes(aka "walks"), so they're off my list automatically. I've found several that seem to race from Amsterdam to somewhere in Switzerland or vice versa, stopping briefly in the wrong places. I'd really prefer one that covered less river unless part of it was also along the Mosel. Beginning or ending in Köln, Koblenz, or Mainz(or Frankfurt) would be even better. If excursions were wheeled, it wouldn't matter if they were in German, because I could translate for her, but if much walking is involved, they'd have to be in English so she could go without me. I'd like suggestions of lines I may have missed. Note: I could be the tour guide if I could hike the way I could a few years ago 8-/ |
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On 8/27/2016 5:10 PM, Erilar wrote:
Looking for suggestions. I've been playing around with river cruise websites, for a future(2018?)trip with a friend who does not speak German along the river I know best, but she is a much better walker than I am. Viking requires everyone to pay in advance for all their hikes(aka "walks"), so they're off my list automatically. I've found several that seem to race from Amsterdam to somewhere in Switzerland or vice versa, stopping briefly in the wrong places. I'd really prefer one that covered less river unless part of it was also along the Mosel. Beginning or ending in Köln, Koblenz, or Mainz(or Frankfurt) would be even better. If excursions were wheeled, it wouldn't matter if they were in German, because I could translate for her, but if much walking is involved, they'd have to be in English so she could go without me. I'd like suggestions of lines I may have missed. Note: I could be the tour guide if I could hike the way I could a few years ago 8-/ I can't help you, but I will be following any responses with great interest. |
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"Erilar" wrote in message ... Looking for suggestions. I've been playing around with river cruise websites, for a future(2018?)trip with a friend who does not speak German along the river I know best, but she is a much better walker than I am. Viking requires everyone to pay in advance for all their hikes(aka "walks"), so they're off my list automatically. I've found several that seem to race from Amsterdam to somewhere in Switzerland or vice versa, stopping briefly in the wrong places. I'd really prefer one that covered less river unless part of it was also along the Mosel. Beginning or ending in Köln, Koblenz, or Mainz(or Frankfurt) would be even better. If excursions were wheeled, it wouldn't matter if they were in German, because I could translate for her, but if much walking is involved, they'd have to be in English so she could go without me. I'd like suggestions of lines I may have missed. Note: I could be the tour guide if I could hike the way I could a few years ago 8-/ You really want this one: http://www.tauck.co.uk/tours/europe-...Page=Itinerary -- JohnT |
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"JohnT" wrote in message ... "Erilar" wrote in message ... Looking for suggestions. I've been playing around with river cruise websites, for a future(2018?)trip with a friend who does not speak German along the river I know best, but she is a much better walker than I am. Viking requires everyone to pay in advance for all their hikes(aka "walks"), so they're off my list automatically. I've found several that seem to race from Amsterdam to somewhere in Switzerland or vice versa, stopping briefly in the wrong places. I'd really prefer one that covered less river unless part of it was also along the Mosel. Beginning or ending in Köln, Koblenz, or Mainz(or Frankfurt) would be even better. If excursions were wheeled, it wouldn't matter if they were in German, because I could translate for her, but if much walking is involved, they'd have to be in English so she could go without me. I'd like suggestions of lines I may have missed. Note: I could be the tour guide if I could hike the way I could a few years ago 8-/ You really want this one: http://www.tauck.co.uk/tours/europe-...Page=Itinerary Am I alone in thinking that this company is somewhat pricey e.g. 4 grand for a 14 day holiday in PL/CZ, not including air fares, looks well OTT to me tim |
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JohnT wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message ... Looking for suggestions. I've been playing around with river cruise websites, for a future(2018?)trip with a friend who does not speak German along the river I know best, but she is a much better walker than I am. Viking requires everyone to pay in advance for all their hikes(aka "walks"), so they're off my list automatically. I've found several that seem to race from Amsterdam to somewhere in Switzerland or vice versa, stopping briefly in the wrong places. I'd really prefer one that covered less river unless part of it was also along the Mosel. Beginning or ending in Köln, Koblenz, or Mainz(or Frankfurt) would be even better. If excursions were wheeled, it wouldn't matter if they were in German, because I could translate for her, but if much walking is involved, they'd have to be in English so she could go without me. I'd like suggestions of lines I may have missed. Note: I could be the tour guide if I could hike the way I could a few years ago 8-/ You really want this one: http://www.tauck.co.uk/tours/europe-...Page=Itinerary Not France! But I'll look again at Tauck. -- biblioholic medievalist via iPad |
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Martin wrote:
On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 14:15:26 +0100, "JohnT" wrote: "Erilar" wrote in message ... Looking for suggestions. I've been playing around with river cruise websites, for a future(2018?)trip with a friend who does not speak German along the river I know best, but she is a much better walker than I am. Viking requires everyone to pay in advance for all their hikes(aka "walks"), so they're off my list automatically. I've found several that seem to race from Amsterdam to somewhere in Switzerland or vice versa, stopping briefly in the wrong places. I'd really prefer one that covered less river unless part of it was also along the Mosel. Beginning or ending in Köln, Koblenz, or Mainz(or Frankfurt) would be even better. If excursions were wheeled, it wouldn't matter if they were in German, because I could translate for her, but if much walking is involved, they'd have to be in English so she could go without me. I'd like suggestions of lines I may have missed. Note: I could be the tour guide if I could hike the way I could a few years ago 8-/ You really want this one: http://www.tauck.co.uk/tours/europe-...Page=Itinerary For Erilar the Francophile? :-) They have Rhein cruises, too. But they don't seem to stay on the river, and what I like about river cruises is that my hotel and restaurant travel with me. -- biblioholic medievalist via iPad |
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Martin wrote:
On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 15:20:54 -0500, Erilar wrote: Martin wrote: On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 14:15:26 +0100, "JohnT" wrote: "Erilar" wrote in message ... Looking for suggestions. I've been playing around with river cruise websites, for a future(2018?)trip with a friend who does not speak German along the river I know best, but she is a much better walker than I am. Viking requires everyone to pay in advance for all their hikes(aka "walks"), so they're off my list automatically. I've found several that seem to race from Amsterdam to somewhere in Switzerland or vice versa, stopping briefly in the wrong places. I'd really prefer one that covered less river unless part of it was also along the Mosel. Beginning or ending in Köln, Koblenz, or Mainz(or Frankfurt) would be even better. If excursions were wheeled, it wouldn't matter if they were in German, because I could translate for her, but if much walking is involved, they'd have to be in English so she could go without me. I'd like suggestions of lines I may have missed. Note: I could be the tour guide if I could hike the way I could a few years ago 8-/ You really want this one: http://www.tauck.co.uk/tours/europe-...Page=Itinerary For Erilar the Francophile? :-) They have Rhein cruises, too. But they don't seem to stay on the river, and what I like about river cruises is that my hotel and restaurant travel with me. What we liked about doing it with KD and staying in hotels is that we had a different restaurant every night and that we could spend as long as we liked and walk when ever we wanted at each stop. When I could easily walk as far as I wanted to, my travel requirements were similar. -- biblioholic medievalist via iPad |
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On 08-27-2016 16:10, Erilar wrote:
Looking for suggestions. I've been playing around with river cruise websites, for a future(2018?)trip with a friend who does not speak German along the river I know best, but she is a much better walker than I am. Viking requires everyone to pay in advance for all their hikes(aka "walks"), so they're off my list automatically. I've found several that I'd bicycle from port to port rather than pay cruise prices. And I'll get there before my friends on ship. As for Viking, I was very careful (as always) to say NO to advertising. That didn't stop them from dropping an expensive 20-30 page full color solicitation in my mailbox every week. Even if the cost were reasonable, I do not do business with spammers. |
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"Happy.Hobo" wrote in message ... On 08-27-2016 16:10, Erilar wrote: Looking for suggestions. I've been playing around with river cruise websites, for a future(2018?)trip with a friend who does not speak German along the river I know best, but she is a much better walker than I am. Viking requires everyone to pay in advance for all their hikes(aka "walks"), so they're off my list automatically. I've found several that I'd bicycle from port to port rather than pay cruise prices. And I'll get there before my friends on ship. Unfortunately a large amount of the "value" of a cruise is seen to be the on board activities and they are timed, and priced accordingly Personally, I don't see any value in that at all, and as soon as someone starts up cruises where the focus is on the on-shore attractions with no need to pay for on board activities that I have no interest in, I will sign up but on the odd occasion when companies have tried that approach, they have failed to be profitable tim |
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On 8/29/16 2:26 AM, tim... wrote:
"Happy.Hobo" wrote in message ... On 08-27-2016 16:10, Erilar wrote: Looking for suggestions. I've been playing around with river cruise websites, for a future(2018?)trip with a friend who does not speak German along the river I know best, but she is a much better walker than I am. Viking requires everyone to pay in advance for all their hikes(aka "walks"), so they're off my list automatically. I've found several that I'd bicycle from port to port rather than pay cruise prices. And I'll get there before my friends on ship. Unfortunately a large amount of the "value" of a cruise is seen to be the on board activities and they are timed, and priced accordingly Personally, I don't see any value in that at all, and as soon as someone starts up cruises where the focus is on the on-shore attractions with no need to pay for on board activities that I have no interest in, I will sign up but on the odd occasion when companies have tried that approach, they have failed to be profitable tim Some people have rationalized cruises, not river cruises, as being cheaper if you consider that cost of accommodations and transportation over a similar period, not to mention the included meals. And those onboard activities sound hellish, forced participation in activities when presumably your main interest is to tour the cities. Not to mention, in this day and age, being cut off from Internet, phones, etc. for swaths of time? |
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