Obama golfs 32d time since becoming POTUS compoared to 24 by Bushduring his entire two terms. Where's that MSM outrage we became accustomed toover Presidents golfing at the wrong times?????

John Rennie wrote:

Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) wrote:

John Rennie wrote:
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) wrote:
Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
wrote in :

Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Tis Odonovan, Himself" wrote in news:86303da5-f3cc-
:

Since Mr. Obama took office, 397 soldiers have died in Operation
Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan. Another 151 have died in Operation
Iraqi Freedom"
Sounds like invading Afghanistan was a huge blunder.
Whose goofy idea was that, anyway?

Once again it's Obama's Afghanistan policies that are in play. Who
do you blame for the Vietnam War? I bet it's Nixon.
Actually it was Eisenhower who set up that failure.

Kook Alert.
Did you read the link?

Unneeded, A. Holman is a Full On Kook. To claim that the blame for
what JFK did goes to Eisenhower, notice he attributed the Bay of
Pigs to anyone but Kennedy too, is Kook Alert worthy.




Here it is again

http://www.chss.montclair.edu/English/furr/ike1.html

Read it and then apologise to all of us for being
the kook that you are.

I am not a kook, I am a free man.



You are a very silly person. It is an acknowledged fact
that the Bay of Pigs operation was set in motion by
the Eisenhower administration.

No it wasn't. The Bay of Pigs was an operation that JFK could've
said yes or not to. The fact that he said yes and then no only
after it was underway speaks volumes against him.


Certainly Kennedy could
and should have cancelled it but he may well have wanted
it to fail as it was bound to.

It wasn't bound to fail. Had it been actually supported properly,
it would've been a success.


You, Bill. NEED that link
- you are so ignorant about the events of that era you
need whatever sources are available to you.

I'm ignorant and I'm schooling you?


--
"It is illuminating for purposes of reflection, if not for
argument, to note that one of the greatest 'fictions' of our
federal system is that the Congress exercises only those powers
delegated to it, while the remainder are reserved to the States or
to the people. The manner in which this Court has construed the
Commerce Clause amply illustrates the extent of this fiction.",
Hodel v. Virginia Surface Mining, 452 U.S. 264, 307 (1981)

On Apr 21, 1:05*pm, "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep
furiously)" wrote:
John Rennie wrote:
-SNIP-

No it wasn't. The Bay of Pigs was an operation that JFK
could've said yes or not to. The fact that he said yes and
then no only after it was underway speaks volumes
against him.
-snip-
It wasn't bound to fail. Had it been actually supported properly,
it would've been a success.

You, Bill. NEED that link
- you are so ignorant about the events of that era you
need whatever sources are available to you.
-

On Apr 21, 8:51Â*am, "O'Donovan, PJ, Himself"
wrote:
On Apr 19, 7:21Â*am, "O'Donovan, PJ, Himself"
wrote:





Obama golfs 32d time since becoming POTUS compoared to 24 by Bush
during his entire two terms. Where's that MSM outrage we became
accustomed to over Presidents golfing at the wrong times?????

"Remember when Democrats used to criticize George W. Bush for golfing
at the wrong time?

Maybe there was a crisis somewhere; maybe someone had died in combat;
maybe legislation was being debated on the Hill. It didn't matter.
Every time Bush golfed, the Democrats woofed. So it is interesting to
see that Barack Obama went golfing today rather than attending the
funeral of Polish President Lech Kaczynski and his wife, Maria. This
is the 32nd time Obama has golfed since taking office less than a year
and a half ago.

Bush? He went golfing 24 times in eight years. If you're counting,
that's one-eighth of Obama's rate. No doubt we'll soon see stories
criticizing Obama for golfing while Washington (or Afghanistan,
perhaps) burns, right?"

"...Polish President Lech Kaczynski and his wife, Maria, along with
dozens of top Polish government officials were killed April 10 when
their airplane went down in heavy fog after clipping a tree on
approach to Smolensk, Russia.

Mr. Obama has not gone to the Polish Embassy in Washington since the
accident, but Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Vice
President Joseph R. Biden Jr. both have. There, they signed a
condolence book.

Mr. Obama has played golf far more often than former President George
W. Bush. In his eight years in office, Mr. Bush played just 24 times.
His last time as president was Oct. 13, 2003.

He said in 2008 that he gave up golf "in solidarity" with the families
of soldiers who were dying in Iraq.

"I don't want some mom whose son may have recently died to see the
commander in chief playing golf," Mr. Bush said in a White House
interview Saturday with the Politico. "I feel I owe it to the families
to be as — to be in solidarity as best as I can with them. And I think
playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal."

He stopped playing after he received word of a deadly attack in Iraq
while playing golf during a stay at the family ranch near Crawford,
Texas.

"They pulled me off the golf course, and I said it's just not worth it
anymore to do," Mr. Bush said in the interview.

Since Mr. Obama took office, 397 soldiers have died in Operation
Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan. Another 151 have died in Operation
Iraqi Freedom"

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President Obama spend occasional afternoons on the gold course.
But the repubs deep thinkers still didn't catch on that a golf course
allows conversations that don't have a swarm of people recording every
word.
But not to worry, 'Tards - Obama may get out of the office now and
then to swing some golf clubs, but your boy Bush will always be the
all-time record-holder at living La Dolce Vita on our time and our tax
dollars, even surpassing that other King of Sloth, Ronnie Reagan:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/5/31/132827/535

"It also serves a stark contrast to the "barely working" George W.
Bush, the man Dan Froomkin aptly named "The Vacation President."

As it turns out, Bush easily eclipsed Ronald Reagan's previous record
for presidential sloth. By March 2008, Bush had spent all or part of
879 days at his Crawford, Texas ranch or at Camp David, surpassing
Reagan's mark of 866. By the time he left office, George W. Bush had
made 149 trips to and spent 487 days at Camp David, with another 77
getaways to (and 490 days at) Crawford. Toss in 11 visits and 43 days
at his folks' compound in Kennebunkport, Maine and President Bush
spent 1020 days - 35% of his presidency - getting away from the White
House.

And it's what President Bush missed during his down time that is all
the more disturbing still. For example:

* During his month-long August 2001 Crawford vacation spent
agonizing over stem cell research, the CIA briefed Bush on the its now
legendary pre-9/11 PDB, "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.'
Bush's response? "All right. You've covered your ass, now."

* As Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans and the Gulf Coast,
Bush nevertheless decided to continue his vacation. As New Orleans
was inundated, Bush strummed a guitar with country singer Mark Wills
and shared a birthday cake with John McCain on an Arizona airport
tarmac. While Bush eventually cut short his trip, the damage to the
nation - and his presidency - was done.

* As Israel and Hezbollah went to war in southern Lebanon in July
2006, President Bush managed to stay in Washington. But as the
carnage escalated, Bush used the time in the office to welcome the
finalists of American Idol to the White House.

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Subject: Obama golfs 32d time since becoming POTUS compoared to 24 byBush
during his entire two terms. Where's that MSM outrage we became accustomed to
over Presidents golfing at the wrong times?????



John Rennie wrote:

Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) wrote:

Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
wrote in :


Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Tis Odonovan, Himself" wrote in news:86303da5-f3cc-
:


Since Mr. Obama took office, 397 soldiers have died in Operation
Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan. Another 151 have died in Operation
Iraqi Freedom"
Sounds like invading Afghanistan was a huge blunder.
Whose goofy idea was that, anyway?

Once again it's Obama's Afghanistan policies that are in play. Who
do you blame for the Vietnam War? I bet it's Nixon.
Actually it was Eisenhower who set up that failure.

Kook Alert.

Did you read the link?

Unneeded, A. Holman is a Full On Kook. To claim that the blame for
what JFK did goes to Eisenhower, notice he attributed the Bay of
Pigs to anyone but Kennedy too, is Kook Alert worthy.




Here it is again

http://www.chss.montclair.edu/English/furr/ike1.html

Read it and then apologise to all of us for being
the kook that you are.

I am not a kook, I am a free man.

You are hardly a free man, you are the prisoner of your own abysmal
ignorance. It is hard to be less free than that.

Well, at least I'm not a number.

"Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
wrote in
:



John Rennie wrote:

Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) wrote:

John Rennie wrote:
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) wrote:
Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
wrote in
:

Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Tis Odonovan, Himself" wrote in
news:86303da5-f3cc-
:

Since Mr. Obama took office, 397 soldiers have died in
Operation
Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan. Another 151 have died in
Operation Iraqi Freedom"
Sounds like invading Afghanistan was a huge blunder.
Whose goofy idea was that, anyway?

Once again it's Obama's Afghanistan policies that are in play.
Who do you blame for the Vietnam War? I bet it's Nixon.
Actually it was Eisenhower who set up that failure.

Kook Alert.
Did you read the link?

Unneeded, A. Holman is a Full On Kook. To claim that the blame for
what JFK did goes to Eisenhower, notice he attributed the Bay of
Pigs to anyone but Kennedy too, is Kook Alert worthy.




Here it is again

http://www.chss.montclair.edu/English/furr/ike1.html

Read it and then apologise to all of us for being
the kook that you are.

I am not a kook, I am a free man.



You are a very silly person. It is an acknowledged fact
that the Bay of Pigs operation was set in motion by
the Eisenhower administration.

No it wasn't. The Bay of Pigs was an operation that JFK could've
said yes or not to. The fact that he said yes and then no only
after it was underway speaks volumes against him.


Certainly Kennedy could
and should have cancelled it but he may well have wanted
it to fail as it was bound to.

It wasn't bound to fail. Had it been actually supported properly,
it would've been a success.


Wrong. The Cuban people had endured decades of US puppet
dictators and were not about help the US install another one.
Castro was not the perfect leader, but 1300 foreign based
insurgents had NO chance of taking over a country of 8 million
people.

And, to his credit, JFK took full responsibility for the
fiasco under his watch. Unlike Bush, unlike Reagan.



"The final responsibility for the failure of the
Bay of Pigs invasion was mine and mine alone."
John F. Kennedy, 1961