Obama golfs 32d time since becoming POTUS compoared to 24 by Bushduring his entire two terms. Where's that MSM outrage we became accustomed toover Presidents golfing at the wrong times?????

"Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
wrote in :



Mitchell Holman wrote:

"Tis Odonovan, Himself" wrote in news:86303da5-f3cc-
:



Since Mr. Obama took office, 397 soldiers have died in Operation
Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan. Another 151 have died in Operation
Iraqi Freedom"

Sounds like invading Afghanistan was a huge blunder.
Whose goofy idea was that, anyway?

Once again it's Obama's Afghanistan policies that are in play. Who
do you blame for the Vietnam War? I bet it's Nixon.



Actually it was Eisenhower who set up that failure.




"President Eisenhower's Memoires, Mandate for Change, page
372, shows that he believed Ho Chi Minh would have won any
free election in Vietnam in 1956. This is certainly why the
U.S. did not permit such an election, though the Geneva
Convention of 1954 required it."
http://www.chss.montclair.edu/English/furr/ike1.html

Mitchell Holman wrote:

"Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
wrote in :



Mitchell Holman wrote:

"Tis Odonovan, Himself" wrote in news:86303da5-f3cc-
:



Since Mr. Obama took office, 397 soldiers have died in Operation
Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan. Another 151 have died in Operation
Iraqi Freedom"

Sounds like invading Afghanistan was a huge blunder.
Whose goofy idea was that, anyway?

Once again it's Obama's Afghanistan policies that are in play. Who
do you blame for the Vietnam War? I bet it's Nixon.

Actually it was Eisenhower who set up that failure.

Kook Alert.

Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) wrote:

Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
wrote in :


Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Tis Odonovan, Himself" wrote in news:86303da5-f3cc-
:


Since Mr. Obama took office, 397 soldiers have died in Operation
Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan. Another 151 have died in Operation
Iraqi Freedom"
Sounds like invading Afghanistan was a huge blunder.
Whose goofy idea was that, anyway?

Once again it's Obama's Afghanistan policies that are in play. Who
do you blame for the Vietnam War? I bet it's Nixon.
Actually it was Eisenhower who set up that failure.

Kook Alert.

Did you read the link?

Here it is again

http://www.chss.montclair.edu/English/furr/ike1.html

Read it and then apologise to all of us for being
the kook that you are.

On 20/04/10 13:14, in article ,
"John Rennie" wrote:

Read it and then apologise to all of us for being
the kook that you are.


One of our pleasures on the short visit to London was visiting
Regents Park and seeing the wide variety of bird life.

In particular the behavior of the coots attracted our attention
and I now understand the origin of the term "crazy as a coot"

Seeing the birds in action I called Donna's attention to
their behavior and that of Bill Bonde.

John Rennie wrote:

Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) wrote:

Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
wrote in :


Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Tis Odonovan, Himself" wrote in news:86303da5-f3cc-
:


Since Mr. Obama took office, 397 soldiers have died in Operation
Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan. Another 151 have died in Operation
Iraqi Freedom"
Sounds like invading Afghanistan was a huge blunder.
Whose goofy idea was that, anyway?

Once again it's Obama's Afghanistan policies that are in play. Who
do you blame for the Vietnam War? I bet it's Nixon.
Actually it was Eisenhower who set up that failure.

Kook Alert.

Did you read the link?

Unneeded, A. Holman is a Full On Kook. To claim that the blame for
what JFK did goes to Eisenhower, notice he attributed the Bay of
Pigs to anyone but Kennedy too, is Kook Alert worthy.




Here it is again

http://www.chss.montclair.edu/English/furr/ike1.html

Read it and then apologise to all of us for being
the kook that you are.

I am not a kook, I am a free man.



--
"It is illuminating for purposes of reflection, if not for
argument, to note that one of the greatest 'fictions' of our
federal system is that the Congress exercises only those powers
delegated to it, while the remainder are reserved to the States or
to the people. The manner in which this Court has construed the
Commerce Clause amply illustrates the extent of this fiction.",
Hodel v. Virginia Surface Mining, 452 U.S. 264, 307 (1981)

On Apr 19, 1:01*pm, Tis PJ Odonovan wrote:
On Apr 19, 8:42*am, "Tis Odonovan, *Himself" wrote:



On Apr 19, 7:21*am, "O'Donovan, PJ, Himself"
wrote:

Obama golfs 32d time since becoming POTUS compoared to 24 by Bush
during his entire two terms. Where's that MSM outrage we became
accustomed to over Presidents golfing at the wrong times?????

"Remember when Democrats used to criticize George W. Bush for golfing
at the wrong time?

Maybe there was a crisis somewhere; maybe someone had died in combat;
maybe legislation was being debated on the Hill. It didn't matter.
Every time Bush golfed, the Democrats woofed. So it is interesting to
see that Barack Obama went golfing today rather than attending the
funeral of Polish President Lech Kaczynski and his wife, Maria. This
is the 32nd time Obama has golfed since taking office less than a year
and a half ago.

Bush? He went golfing 24 times in eight years. If you're counting,
that's one-eighth of Obama's rate. No doubt we'll soon see stories
criticizing Obama for golfing while Washington (or Afghanistan,
perhaps) burns, right?"

"...Polish President Lech Kaczynski and his wife, Maria, along with
dozens of top Polish government officials were killed April 10 when
their airplane went down in heavy fog after clipping a tree on
approach to Smolensk, Russia.

Mr. Obama has not gone to the Polish Embassy in Washington since the
accident, but Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Vice
President Joseph R. Biden Jr. both have. There, they signed a
condolence book.

Mr. Obama has played golf far more often than former President George
W. Bush. In his eight years in office, Mr. Bush played just 24 times.
His last time as president was Oct. 13, 2003.

He said in 2008 that he gave up golf "in solidarity" with the families
of soldiers who were dying in Iraq.

"I don't want some mom whose son may have recently died to see the
commander in chief playing golf," Mr. Bush said in a White House
interview Saturday with the Politico. "I feel I owe it to the families
to be as — to be in solidarity as best as I can with them. And I think
playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal."

He stopped playing after he received word of a deadly attack in Iraq
while playing golf during a stay at the family ranch near Crawford,
Texas.

"They pulled me off the golf course, and I said it's just not worth it
anymore to do," Mr. Bush said in the interview.

Since Mr. Obama took office, 397 soldiers have died in Operation
Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan. Another 151 have died in Operation
Iraqi Freedom"

Obie has played 32 rounds in 15 months vs. 24 for the 8 years of the
Bush administration. I am sure we will see articles on this in the
lamestream press and a new movie by the fat man. Sounds lioke he needs
that other vacation he'll be taking at that posh resort near Asheville
next week.

Since Mr. Obama took office, 397 soldiers have died in Operation
*Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan. Another 151 have died in Operation
*Iraqi Freedom"

On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:24:50 -0500, Mitchell Holman
wrote:


Actually it was Eisenhower who set up that failure.




"President Eisenhower's Memoires, Mandate for Change, page
372, shows that he believed Ho Chi Minh would have won any
free election in Vietnam in 1956. This is certainly why the
U.S. did not permit such an election, though the Geneva
Convention of 1954 required it."
http://www.chss.montclair.edu/English/furr/ike1.html


Actually the first advisers were sent in 1950. In 1959 troop levels
were 760 and 900 in 1960.

Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) wrote:

John Rennie wrote:
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) wrote:
Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
wrote in :

Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Tis Odonovan, Himself" wrote in news:86303da5-f3cc-
:

Since Mr. Obama took office, 397 soldiers have died in Operation
Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan. Another 151 have died in Operation
Iraqi Freedom"
Sounds like invading Afghanistan was a huge blunder.
Whose goofy idea was that, anyway?

Once again it's Obama's Afghanistan policies that are in play. Who
do you blame for the Vietnam War? I bet it's Nixon.
Actually it was Eisenhower who set up that failure.

Kook Alert.
Did you read the link?

Unneeded, A. Holman is a Full On Kook. To claim that the blame for
what JFK did goes to Eisenhower, notice he attributed the Bay of
Pigs to anyone but Kennedy too, is Kook Alert worthy.




Here it is again

http://www.chss.montclair.edu/English/furr/ike1.html

Read it and then apologise to all of us for being
the kook that you are.

I am not a kook, I am a free man.



You are a very silly person. It is an acknowledged fact
that the Bay of Pigs operation was set in motion by
the Eisenhower administration. Certainly Kennedy could
and should have cancelled it but he may well have wanted
it to fail as it was bound to. You, Bill. NEED that link
- you are so ignorant about the events of that era you
need whatever sources are available to you.

From: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"

Organization: Our legacy is not the lives we lived but the lives we leave to
those who come after us.
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:22:42 +0000
Subject: Obama golfs 32d time since becoming POTUS compoared to 24 byBush
during his entire two terms. Where's that MSM outrage we became accustomed to
over Presidents golfing at the wrong times?????



John Rennie wrote:

Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) wrote:

Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
wrote in :


Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Tis Odonovan, Himself" wrote in news:86303da5-f3cc-
:


Since Mr. Obama took office, 397 soldiers have died in Operation
Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan. Another 151 have died in Operation
Iraqi Freedom"
Sounds like invading Afghanistan was a huge blunder.
Whose goofy idea was that, anyway?

Once again it's Obama's Afghanistan policies that are in play. Who
do you blame for the Vietnam War? I bet it's Nixon.
Actually it was Eisenhower who set up that failure.

Kook Alert.

Did you read the link?

Unneeded, A. Holman is a Full On Kook. To claim that the blame for
what JFK did goes to Eisenhower, notice he attributed the Bay of
Pigs to anyone but Kennedy too, is Kook Alert worthy.




Here it is again

http://www.chss.montclair.edu/English/furr/ike1.html

Read it and then apologise to all of us for being
the kook that you are.

I am not a kook, I am a free man.

You are hardly a free man, you are the prisoner of your own abysmal
ignorance. It is hard to be less free than that.

Donna Evleth

On Apr 19, 7:21Â*am, "O'Donovan, PJ, Himself"
wrote:
Obama golfs 32d time since becoming POTUS compoared to 24 by Bush
during his entire two terms. Where's that MSM outrage we became
accustomed to over Presidents golfing at the wrong times?????

"Remember when Democrats used to criticize George W. Bush for golfing
at the wrong time?

Maybe there was a crisis somewhere; maybe someone had died in combat;
maybe legislation was being debated on the Hill. It didn't matter.
Every time Bush golfed, the Democrats woofed. So it is interesting to
see that Barack Obama went golfing today rather than attending the
funeral of Polish President Lech Kaczynski and his wife, Maria. This
is the 32nd time Obama has golfed since taking office less than a year
and a half ago.

Bush? He went golfing 24 times in eight years. If you're counting,
that's one-eighth of Obama's rate. No doubt we'll soon see stories
criticizing Obama for golfing while Washington (or Afghanistan,
perhaps) burns, right?"

"...Polish President Lech Kaczynski and his wife, Maria, along with
dozens of top Polish government officials were killed April 10 when
their airplane went down in heavy fog after clipping a tree on
approach to Smolensk, Russia.

Mr. Obama has not gone to the Polish Embassy in Washington since the
accident, but Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Vice
President Joseph R. Biden Jr. both have. There, they signed a
condolence book.

Mr. Obama has played golf far more often than former President George
W. Bush. In his eight years in office, Mr. Bush played just 24 times.
His last time as president was Oct. 13, 2003.

He said in 2008 that he gave up golf "in solidarity" with the families
of soldiers who were dying in Iraq.

"I don't want some mom whose son may have recently died to see the
commander in chief playing golf," Mr. Bush said in a White House
interview Saturday with the Politico. "I feel I owe it to the families
to be as — to be in solidarity as best as I can with them. And I think
playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal."

He stopped playing after he received word of a deadly attack in Iraq
while playing golf during a stay at the family ranch near Crawford,
Texas.

"They pulled me off the golf course, and I said it's just not worth it
anymore to do," Mr. Bush said in the interview.

Since Mr. Obama took office, 397 soldiers have died in Operation
Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan. Another 151 have died in Operation
Iraqi Freedom"

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