snoring in youth hostels

(Terry) writes:

"apnoea" seems to be the UK spelling. A friend of mine found that
getting treatment for it has transformed his life. He has a lot more
energy, and is losing weight.

I was in a long ride a few months ago and found myself in a group that
turned out to be all doctors, two of whom were specialists in sleep
apnoea .
Nabil Ali had brought not one but two windcheetahs, which made an
impression on me since I rode a 20+ year old Audax bike which is my
best.

I would say that it is a measure of the effectiveness of the treatment
that the patients seem always to use it, inspite of it looking
uncomfortable. It involves wearing a machine that blows air up your
nose whenever
you breathe in while asleep.
People with this problem are almost always overweight.

I've long established by decades of experiments that if I gain a
little bit of weight I snore more, if I lose a little I snore less. My
wife agreed to participate in these experiments. She kicks me awake
when I snore.

I wonder if I'd stop snoring if I reduced my weight to what it was in
the old days when I didn't snore?


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On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 13:02:36 +0000 (UTC), (Chris
Malcolm) wrote:

I've long established by decades of experiments that if I gain a
little bit of weight I snore more, if I lose a little I snore less. My
wife agreed to participate in these experiments. She kicks me awake
when I snore.

And this is completely unrelated to the source of the weight gain,
viz: BEER :-)

Guy
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On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 13:02:36 +0000 (UTC), (Chris
Malcolm) wrote:

I've long established by decades of experiments that if I gain a
little bit of weight I snore more, if I lose a little I snore less. My
wife agreed to participate in these experiments. She kicks me awake
when I snore.

And this is completely unrelated to the source of the weight gain,
viz: BEER :-)

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University

In article , Terry wrote:

"apnoea" seems to be the UK spelling. A friend of mine found that
getting treatment for it has transformed his life. He has a lot more
energy, and is losing weight.

I was in a long ride a few months ago and found myself in a group that
turned out to be all doctors, two of whom were specialists in sleep
apnoea .
Nabil Ali had brought not one but two windcheetahs, which made an
impression on me since I rode a 20+ year old Audax bike which is my
best.

I would say that it is a measure of the effectiveness of the treatment
that the patients seem always to use it, inspite of it looking
uncomfortable. It involves wearing a machine that blows air up your
nose whenever you breathe in while asleep.
People with this problem are almost always overweight.

Being overweight can (at least in part) cause the problem, but the problem
also can also (at least in part) cause overweightness, as sufferers eat to
try and make up for lack of energy caused by loss of sleep but aren't up
to much exercise.

So sometimes being just being told "go away and try losing some weight" by
a GP can fix it, and sometimes it takes a specialist with the machine
(and sometimes the GP is convinced that telling you to go away and lose some
weight should be enough and you have to fight to see the specialist).

(Alan Braggins) wrote in
:

In article , Terry
wrote:

"apnoea" seems to be the UK spelling. A friend of mine found that
getting treatment for it has transformed his life. He has a lot more
energy, and is losing weight.

I was in a long ride a few months ago and found myself in a group that
turned out to be all doctors, two of whom were specialists in sleep
apnoea .
Nabil Ali had brought not one but two windcheetahs, which made an
impression on me since I rode a 20+ year old Audax bike which is my
best.

I would say that it is a measure of the effectiveness of the treatment
that the patients seem always to use it, inspite of it looking
uncomfortable. It involves wearing a machine that blows air up your
nose whenever you breathe in while asleep.
People with this problem are almost always overweight.

Being overweight can (at least in part) cause the problem, but the
problem also can also (at least in part) cause overweightness, as
sufferers eat to try and make up for lack of energy caused by loss of
sleep but aren't up to much exercise.

So sometimes being just being told "go away and try losing some
weight" by a GP can fix it, and sometimes it takes a specialist with
the machine (and sometimes the GP is convinced that telling you to go
away and lose some weight should be enough and you have to fight to
see the specialist).


I was in a mixed dorm in Oslo. There was someone snoring like a chainsaw
and like an idiot, I forgot my earplugs. I was convinced the noise was
coming from an eastern European man that was on the upper bunk next to
me, but it turned out to be a very beautiful tiny Indian woman in the
bed next to me. I couldn't believe all that noise was coming out of one
tiny woman! I kept periodically making a loud clap with my hands to
interrupt her sleep enough to stop the snoring. The next day she asked
me to please stop making so much noise. I couldn't believe it. I don't
have tons of travel stories yet as I just figured out that I don't
necessarily need a lot of money to travel, which is good because as a
communications major, I'm probably never going to make the big bucks,
but I definitely want to see the world.

Rick L.

Rick Leonard wrote in
link.net:


I was in a mixed dorm in Oslo. There was someone snoring like a
chainsaw and like an idiot, I forgot my earplugs. I was convinced the
noise was coming from an eastern European man that was on the upper
bunk next to me, but it turned out to be a very beautiful tiny Indian
woman in the bed next to me. I couldn't believe all that noise was
coming out of one tiny woman! I kept periodically making a loud clap
with my hands to interrupt her sleep enough to stop the snoring. The
next day she asked me to please stop making so much noise. I couldn't
believe it. I don't have tons of travel stories yet as I just figured
out that I don't necessarily need a lot of money to travel, which is
good because as a communications major, I'm probably never going to
make the big bucks, but I definitely want to see the world.

Rick L.


On a boat in the Whitsundays I bunked in a cabin with a guy that didn't
actually snore, he just blew air out of his lips very forcefully so it
was like he was making a raspberry noise each time he exhaled.

Rick - I've been taking advantage of my "student" status to get cheaper
flights through a discount broker called StudentUniverse. Worth a look
if you are serious about keeping on traveling but having no cash.

Rick Leonard wrote in
link.net:


I was in a mixed dorm in Oslo. There was someone snoring like a
chainsaw and like an idiot, I forgot my earplugs. I was convinced the
noise was coming from an eastern European man that was on the upper
bunk next to me, but it turned out to be a very beautiful tiny Indian
woman in the bed next to me. I couldn't believe all that noise was
coming out of one tiny woman! I kept periodically making a loud clap
with my hands to interrupt her sleep enough to stop the snoring. The
next day she asked me to please stop making so much noise. I couldn't
believe it. I don't have tons of travel stories yet as I just figured
out that I don't necessarily need a lot of money to travel, which is
good because as a communications major, I'm probably never going to
make the big bucks, but I definitely want to see the world.

Rick L.


On a boat in the Whitsundays I bunked in a cabin with a guy that didn't
actually snore, he just blew air out of his lips very forcefully so it
was like he was making a raspberry noise each time he exhaled.

Rick - I've been taking advantage of my "student" status to get cheaper
flights through a discount broker called StudentUniverse. Worth a look
if you are serious about keeping on traveling but having no cash.

Having spent many nights in climbing huts in the uk and Europe and cheap
dolllar hotels in Africa and Asia I have to say if you have a problem with
snoring then it is perhaps better you take a hotel room. By nature cheap
dorm space has its problems snoring is one, theft another but tolerance is
all when staying in cheap digs. Learn it or leave don't spend your free time
moaning about ****e on here.


I don't snore but have slept with people who do, no problem just learn to
relax. I live in the country no noise but used to live near a motorway I
know which I would rather have and its not the constant roar of traffic.


Kind regards safe travels to all


Mike
"Gonzalez" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:32:27 +0100, "taywood"
wrote:


"Gonzalez" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:34:07 +0100, JohnB wrote:

My last ever, ever, visit to a YH was in Derbyshire for a
weekend cross country skiing seminar.
After a visit to the local pub we retired quietly to our dorm.
I couldnt sleep. I was in the top bunk and the other side of the
plywood partition was a moron with a sleep problem.

All was quiet until we became aware of this guys breathing getting
faster and faster and faster - then it stopped.

He didnt breathe for what seemed a hell of a long time and then
his body noisily convulsed as his lungs desperately sought air.
The bunk and the partition rattled
This pattern was repeated over and over and over.
People shook him, woke him, spoke to him, shouted at him
nothing made any difference.

http://www.gpnotebook.co.uk/simplepa...D=2588&cook=no

Having spent many nights in climbing huts in the uk and Europe and cheap
dolllar hotels in Africa and Asia I have to say if you have a problem with
snoring then it is perhaps better you take a hotel room. By nature cheap
dorm space has its problems snoring is one, theft another but tolerance is
all when staying in cheap digs. Learn it or leave don't spend your free time
moaning about ****e on here.


I don't snore but have slept with people who do, no problem just learn to
relax. I live in the country no noise but used to live near a motorway I
know which I would rather have and its not the constant roar of traffic.


Kind regards safe travels to all


Mike
"Gonzalez" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:32:27 +0100, "taywood"
wrote:


"Gonzalez" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:34:07 +0100, JohnB wrote:

My last ever, ever, visit to a YH was in Derbyshire for a
weekend cross country skiing seminar.
After a visit to the local pub we retired quietly to our dorm.
I couldnt sleep. I was in the top bunk and the other side of the
plywood partition was a moron with a sleep problem.

All was quiet until we became aware of this guys breathing getting
faster and faster and faster - then it stopped.

He didnt breathe for what seemed a hell of a long time and then
his body noisily convulsed as his lungs desperately sought air.
The bunk and the partition rattled
This pattern was repeated over and over and over.
People shook him, woke him, spoke to him, shouted at him
nothing made any difference.

http://www.gpnotebook.co.uk/simplepa...D=2588&cook=no

but tolerance is all

snippity

don't spend your free time moaning about ****e on here.

;-)