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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
I wonder how strict they are about that? Are flight attendants no longer available to assist elderly and/or handicapped passengers? What about able-bodied but short passengers, who can lift the bag but cannot REACH the overhead bin? (Some of those bins are very high - one of the occasions when I really miss the two-and-a-half inches I have lost as my spine compresses with age!) You must have missed this on Gadling- http://www.gadling.com/2008/07/15/ga...-want-me-to-d/ |
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JohnT wrote: "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message ... Tom P wrote: In the cabin??? It sounds insanely dangerous to me. I just checked their website and yes, it really says 23kg for handluggage, same as for checked baggage - "and you must be able to lift the bag into the overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided" I wonder how strict they are about that? Are flight attendants no longer available to assist elderly and/or handicapped passengers? What about able-bodied but short passengers, who can lift the bag but cannot REACH the overhead bin? (Some of those bins are very high - one of the occasions when I really miss the two-and-a-half inches I have lost as my spine compresses with age!) The full statement on the BA website is: "one standard-sized bag - maximum size of the bag must not exceed 56x45x25cm (22x17.5x9.85in) (including wheels, pockets and handles). In addition, one laptop sized bag, handbag or briefcase. A 23kg(51lbs) maximum bag weight applies and you must be able to lift the bag into the overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided. NB. Cabin crew will assist customers with additional needs." Oh well, I didn't realize 23 kg was that heavy - every trip to Europe has resulted in fewer, lighter bags! Only the first time did I travel with a solid-frame dress-bag, full-sized suit-case and twenty-inch carry-on. I wore the formal gown to the Wiener Staatsoper only because I had it with me, half my wardrobe I never wore at all.... (Amazing how few "necessary" items proved to be real necessities, even allowing for something dressy to wear to the opera!) |
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Well, colour me surprised. I just looked at the Air Canada website
and the maximum for a carry-on bag is now 46". That's an inch more than a year ago so my Rick Steves RollAboard will fit . Plus I get a personal article (36") AND a 30" purse. I might take a 45" nylon bag instead, though, as I will just be going to my hotel and back. If I pile all these bags up they might make a nice footstool for my window seat. Keri |
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Goomba wrote: EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote: I wonder how strict they are about that? Are flight attendants no longer available to assist elderly and/or handicapped passengers? What about able-bodied but short passengers, who can lift the bag but cannot REACH the overhead bin? (Some of those bins are very high - one of the occasions when I really miss the two-and-a-half inches I have lost as my spine compresses with age!) You must have missed this on Gadling- http://www.gadling.com/2008/07/15/ga...-want-me-to-d/ Why would I have even looked for it? I always check all but one clearly "carry-on" bag which I have no problem carrying onto the airplane (I require a wheelchair to get to the gate from check-in). The fact I am no longer tall enough to reach overhead bins (which have been elevated by several inches from the height they once were, back when air-travel was actually enjoyable) seems a legitimate reason for needing help. I was under the impression flight attendants were PAID to assist passengers who require assistance, not just to be glorified waitresses, using the boarding period to catch up on their gossip. |
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On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:16:30 -0300, kerilotion
wrote: Well, colour me surprised. I just looked at the Air Canada website and the maximum for a carry-on bag is now 46". That's an inch more than a year ago so my Rick Steves RollAboard will fit . How do you figure? Rick Steves RollAboard is 22" Height. Yes, the dimensions for carry-on on Air Canada are 46" added together, but must break down as follows: 9" x 15.5" x 21.5". Rick Steves RollAboard won't cut it. Plus I get a personal article (36") AND a 30" purse. I might take a 45" nylon bag instead, though, as I will just be going to my hotel and back. If I pile all these bags up they might make a nice footstool for my window seat. Keri |
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
Goomba wrote: EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote: I wonder how strict they are about that? Are flight attendants no longer available to assist elderly and/or handicapped passengers? What about able-bodied but short passengers, who can lift the bag but cannot REACH the overhead bin? (Some of those bins are very high - one of the occasions when I really miss the two-and-a-half inches I have lost as my spine compresses with age!) You must have missed this on Gadling- http://www.gadling.com/2008/07/15/ga...-want-me-to-d/ Why would I have even looked for it? I always check all but one clearly "carry-on" bag which I have no problem carrying onto the airplane (I require a wheelchair to get to the gate from check-in). The fact I am no longer tall enough to reach overhead bins (which have been elevated by several inches from the height they once were, back when air-travel was actually enjoyable) seems a legitimate reason for needing help. I was under the impression flight attendants were PAID to assist passengers who require assistance, not just to be glorified waitresses, using the boarding period to catch up on their gossip. To quote the rest of the BA website: ..and you must be able to lift the bag into the overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided. NB. Cabin crew will assist customers with additional needs." Meaning YES if like yourself you are a disabled person with special needs, NO if you are someone who drags a carry-on full of bricks on board and expects cabin crew to risk injury to themselves and possibly other passengers heaving it into the overhead bin. Which in any case raises the question, why does BA tell you to put such heavy hand luggage in the overhead and not under the seat? |
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"Tom P" wrote in message ... EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote: snip I always check all but one clearly "carry-on" bag which I have no problem carrying onto the airplane (I require a wheelchair to get to the gate from check-in). The fact I am no longer tall enough to reach overhead bins (which have been elevated by several inches from the height they once were, back when air-travel was actually enjoyable) seems a legitimate reason for needing help. I was under the impression flight attendants were PAID to assist passengers who require assistance, not just to be glorified waitresses, using the boarding period to catch up on their gossip. To quote the rest of the BA website: ..and you must be able to lift the bag into the overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided. NB. Cabin crew will assist customers with additional needs." Meaning YES if like yourself you are a disabled person with special needs, NO if you are someone who drags a carry-on full of bricks on board and expects cabin crew to risk injury to themselves and possibly other passengers heaving it into the overhead bin. Which in any case raises the question, why does BA tell you to put such heavy hand luggage in the overhead and not under the seat? And suppose the overhead bin door opens in flight -- stressed by all that weight -- and the heavy but allowed bag falls on somebody's head. Marianne |
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poldy wrote:
In article , Tom P wrote: Note that BA have a weight limit of 23kg for carry-on items. B; In the cabin??? It sounds insanely dangerous to me. I just checked their website and yes, it really says 23kg for handluggage, same as for checked baggage - "and you must be able to lift the bag into the overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided" Most other airlines are not that generous. If you pack a laptop, you use up most of the limit, which is around 11 kg. AA's limit is 40 pounds. |
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Mimi wrote:
And suppose the overhead bin door opens in flight -- stressed by all that weight -- and the heavy but allowed bag falls on somebody's head. Marianne If the overhead opens due to the weight of bags meeting the weight restricitons, and someone is injured, then it would seem to be cause for a liability claim against the carrier. If the door can't handle 23 Kg for each bag, the airline shouldn't be telling people they can put a 23 Kg bag there. Passengers can't be expected to know that they are permitted to bring a 23 Kg bag, but the door won't hold it. |
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mrtravel wrote:
Mimi wrote: And suppose the overhead bin door opens in flight -- stressed by all that weight -- and the heavy but allowed bag falls on somebody's head. Marianne If the overhead opens due to the weight of bags meeting the weight restricitons, and someone is injured, then it would seem to be cause for a liability claim against the carrier. Conversely, if the CC tells passengers to put heavy items under the seat in front of them for safety reasons, and they disregard this instruction, isn't the passenger liable? If the door can't handle 23 Kg for each bag, the airline shouldn't be telling people they can put a 23 Kg bag there. Passengers can't be expected to know that they are permitted to bring a 23 Kg bag, but the door won't hold it. Or it can simply fall out when someone opens the bin. I recently witnessed an overhead locker avalanche. The CC had stacked a pile of glossy magazines in the bin, and then some passengers put their bags and stuff on top of the pile. During the flight, the whole must have shifted, because when the bin was opened, the whole lot came sliding out. Luckily no-one got hurt, but a couple of people in their seats got hit by flying magazines. |
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