A Travel and vacations forum. TravelBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » TravelBanter forum » Travelling Style » Air travel
Site Map Home Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

"Catfight" on a BA flight



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old October 22nd, 2003, 06:33 PM
Trust No One®
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default "Catfight" on a BA flight


"Banty" wrote in message
...

From what I've read, (and just experience IRL), what made the difference

here is
that the women were *not* involved in a fight with the FAs or any other of

the
crew, and were *not* disobeying instructions from crew. The matter being
clearly between two pax, the task at hand for the FA's was one of settling

it as
easily and calmly as possible. Which, seeing that apparently the women

were
embarassed by their own behavior, only took time and monitoring to

accomplish.
Which is goodness.

If the FA's *had* intervened too soon or too much, the situation would

most
likely involve crew also, then it would be an escalated situation. Of

course,
sometimes they would have to, but best to keep the situation a low-key one

as
possible given any choice.

I'd wager that the FA's reacted exactly as they were trained, knowing the
boundaries and contingencies, and clearly it was successful. And I'd

wager
that, if two men were hassling similarly, it woudl have ended the same.

Perhaps
the situation would have changed if you assume that men would have been

more
violent or disruptive to other pax, but I wouldn't make that assumption.


I fully agree with the logic of what you're saying. However in UK law there
exists an offence of "acting in a disruptive manner (including interfering
with cabin crew in the course of their duty)"

This "acting in a disruptive" manner could be rather open to interpretation
Another time, another day who knows?

I'm extremely happy that the FAs resolved the situation in the way that they
did.

--
Peter X-Files Fan
Please Note: Emailed replies cc'd / bcc'd , containing HTML or attachments
auto-binned as spam


  #12  
Old October 22nd, 2003, 06:42 PM
Banty
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default "Catfight" on a BA flight

In article , Trust No One® says...


"Banty" wrote in message
...

From what I've read, (and just experience IRL), what made the difference

here is
that the women were *not* involved in a fight with the FAs or any other of

the
crew, and were *not* disobeying instructions from crew. The matter being
clearly between two pax, the task at hand for the FA's was one of settling

it as
easily and calmly as possible. Which, seeing that apparently the women

were
embarassed by their own behavior, only took time and monitoring to

accomplish.
Which is goodness.

If the FA's *had* intervened too soon or too much, the situation would

most
likely involve crew also, then it would be an escalated situation. Of

course,
sometimes they would have to, but best to keep the situation a low-key one

as
possible given any choice.

I'd wager that the FA's reacted exactly as they were trained, knowing the
boundaries and contingencies, and clearly it was successful. And I'd

wager
that, if two men were hassling similarly, it woudl have ended the same.

Perhaps
the situation would have changed if you assume that men would have been

more
violent or disruptive to other pax, but I wouldn't make that assumption.


I fully agree with the logic of what you're saying. However in UK law there
exists an offence of "acting in a disruptive manner (including interfering
with cabin crew in the course of their duty)"

This "acting in a disruptive" manner could be rather open to interpretation
Another time, another day who knows?

I'm extremely happy that the FAs resolved the situation in the way that they
did.



Well, I'm on the West side of The Pond grin so I can't speak to UK law at all.
But could this offense be something similar to anti-loitering laws, such that it
is applied as necessary, but not against anyone who could possibly fit in the
definition?

Cheers,
Banty

  #13  
Old October 22nd, 2003, 08:18 PM
Jenn
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default "Catfight" on a BA flight

In article t,
"None" wrote:

"Traveler" wrote in message
news:COqlb.34634$At.7918@edtnps84...
Were the two ladies met by any sort of police on landing? Were they moved

to
other seats? What was the outcome?


No police, no outcome, because no incident. One thing British Airways
flight attendants do NOT put up with is on-board bull**** from the
passengers. BA FAs are HIGHLY trained for just such situations, and their
training films are used by many carriers. If something like this had
actually taken place, those FAs would have floored both of these women in a
heartbeat, and have the means onboard to restrain people in their seats if
need be.



if FAs dealt with problems like kids kicking seats things like this
would not need to escalate

the woman whose kid was kicking is also the one who started the hitting
-- she is the problem -- and FAs should have intervened to prevent the
original assault of kid on seat back getting this far out of hand
  #14  
Old October 22nd, 2003, 08:37 PM
Smelly Cat
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default "Catfight" on a BA flight

If it had been two males arguing, I suspect that the FAs would not have taken
any chances and stopped it right away.

Perhaps there is a general feeling that 2 females involved in a catfight poses
less danger to the plane and passengers and is see just as entertainment (or annoyance).

I hope that Virgin will install a large vat of Jello in the belly of its
A340-600s. Whenever such a catfight starts, throw the 2 (or more) females into
the large vat of Jello and then have cameras retransmit the fight live to
satellite TV networks all over the world. Consider the revenus Virgin could
derive from this :-) :-)
 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Air Madagascar trip report (long) Vitaly Shmatikov Air travel 6 May 17th, 2004 11:25 AM
Do you think I can make this flight? VC Africa 3 March 24th, 2004 07:51 PM
ALERT!! American Airlines Employees Plan Holiday Sick Out! None Air travel 6 October 16th, 2003 08:09 PM
Air Madagascar trip report (long) Vitaly Shmatikov Africa 7 October 7th, 2003 08:05 PM
Trip Report NCL-LHR-IAD-SEA-IAD-LHR-NCL (long) Mark Hewitt Air travel 7 September 23rd, 2003 09:15 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 TravelBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.