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Bert Hyman wrote: In "Howard Long" wrote: I would add that the role of the immigration officer (in the US, UK and elsewhere) is often one of extreme subjectivity in applying rules, in particular to those who don't have a vote in the country they're attempting to enter. Remember too that police the world over will always tell you that just because they didn't arrest you for violating some particular law at some time in the past doesn't mean that they won't decide to nab you for it tomorrow. You would have to think that some time in that 10 year period he would have learned that he was technically supposed to have a visa. It's like speeding. I know speeding is illegal, but I know there is a small chance that I will get caught each time I do it. |
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I have NO sympathy for any of those people who did not have the right
VISA. What is THEIR problem??? Wrong VISAs, Expired VISAs, they sound like a bunch of irresponsible people. Why would the USA want irresponsible people like them in this country anyway?....Oh that's right, We wouldn't. |
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Pan wrote:
He didn't escape; he was deported. And how could reporting on his experiences be a violation of anything? He wasn't asked to sign a non-disclosure agreement, was he? I think the other poster was referring to the fact that he did the same thing he got in trouble for. In other words, he was denied entrance because he wanted to gather information for an article he was going to write. If he needs a visa to do this, then it might be logical that the article written about the "visit" he had in the US would also fall under the same restriction. it will presumably harm any future entries - as much as any other breach of visa conditions. I don't understand. How could his story harm any future entrants? If anything, it might serve as an object lesson to them to make sure they get the right visa. I think the other poster was referring to the journalist's future entrie, since this article was based on "research" he did while in the US. |
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S Byers from the UK.,
Sounds like your Boss dropped the ball on this one. Your Boss should have found out all of the details on Homeland Security and should have kept up with the changes since his journalist (you) would be flying back and forth. If anyone is to blame it is the paper/magazine you work for. Don't blame the USA for your companies negligence. |
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mtravelkay wrote:
You would have to think that some time in that 10 year period he would have learned that he was technically supposed to have a visa. It's like speeding. I know speeding is illegal, but I know there is a small chance that I will get caught each time I do it. Sometimes countries don't enforce their visa rules too tightly. Take Mexico as an example. They have two separate forms that you can fill in. One is for tourists, and the other for business travelers. The airlines often don't have the business form, so I will fill in the tourist one. I've never had a problem, even after U tell them I'm entering for business purposes. You get into the habit of assuming there won't be a problem, but I suppose that one day they might get into a snit and refuse me entry. I doubt it. The same might be the case for the journalist, who was OK for ten years before some bureaucrat decided to enforce the rule without any warning. |
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Jo Jo wrote:
S Byers from the UK., Sounds like your Boss dropped the ball on this one. Your Boss should have found out all of the details on Homeland Security and should have kept up with the changes since his journalist (you) would be flying back and forth. If anyone is to blame it is the paper/magazine you work for. Don't blame the USA for your companies negligence. In the first place, the US didn't enforce the rule for at least ten years. This is a person who can travel to the US as a tourist without any visa whatsoever, so why the fuss? It's just like a bureaucrat to suddenly shift gears and rigidly enforce a rule without warning. I wonder if he had ever been told on previous trips that he needed the visa? I doubt it. In the second, why does the US, a country that supposedly supports freedom of the press, have a separate visa requirement for journalists? I can see it for a journalist from a country that would need a visa to enter the US for any type of trip, but why for a person from a country covered by the visa waiver program? It makes no sense, rule or no rule. |
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Pan wrote:
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 20:20:12 GMT, (Jim Ley) wrote: it will presumably harm any future entries - as much as any other breach of visa conditions. I don't understand. How could his story harm any future entrants? If anything, it might serve as an object lesson to them to make sure they get the right visa. Once you publish the story, you confirm yourself to be a journalist. Therefore you had entered illegally, since your trip was gathering information for your journalism. miguel -- Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu |
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