Security in KL

Alfred Molon wrote:
Miguel Cruz wrote:
Far as I can tell, the only significant increase has heen in snatch thefts
perpetrated by guys on mopeds who grab purses from women walking along the
road. Recently one or two victims were dragged along and badly injured or
killed, and it's gotten a lot of press. The only reason I think this is
actually increased rather than just getting a lot of press is that the
police seem to be responding to it a lot.

Is this a consequence of a deteriorating economy ? How is the situation
of the economy right now ?

Everyone (even the foreign press) claims it's doing well. Chinese people
tell me it's Indonesian illegal immigrants making all the trouble. I don't
really know what to believe on that score.

By the way, my wife also told me that I shouldn't use the credit card,
even in Sungei Wang or BB Plaza because people might copy the data on it
and create a copy. I've never had a fraud case in these past 15 years,
but should I perhaps be careful and only use the credit card in big and
"established" places ?

Here I agree with her completely. I've had my card cloned twice already. I
pretty much don't use it in Malaysia anymore except at ultra-high-end
joints, or places where I get to swipe it myself. I'm about to start
insisting on taking a digital picture of any cashier I use my credit card
with.

Huh...? Is there a Wifi hotspot in that park ?

They're everywhere now. It's quite nice. For instance, there's one you can
reach sitting by the fountain behind KLCC. And I don't think there's
anywhere in the Bukit Bintang area that's not covered by at least one. For
some of them you need to buy a card (TMNet or Airzed) but the cards are
really cheap. Others are free, provided by Time Broadband for some reason.

The only nuisance at night, when you walk back from KLCC to Jalan Alor
used to be that male prostitute at the corner.

Still plenty of those. The good news is that they start to ignore you (or at
least me) after a while.

BTW, I'm also used to walking around even at night in KL with expensive
computer and photographic equipment and larger amounts of cash. I never
felt unsafe

I don't feel any less safe than I did years ago here.

I haven't been in KL since last December, but would have classified KL as
relatively safe. Maybe not as safe as Munich (Germany), where there are no
bad neighbourhoods, but probably safer than places like Rome or Paris.

I agree.

Then again, I moved here from Washington DC, so my standards of "safe" were
possibly a little looser than some.

miguel
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Miguel Cruz wrote:

Huh...? Is there a Wifi hotspot in that park ?

They're everywhere now. It's quite nice. For instance, there's one you can
reach sitting by the fountain behind KLCC. And I don't think there's
anywhere in the Bukit Bintang area that's not covered by at least one. For
some of them you need to buy a card (TMNet or Airzed) but the cards are
really cheap. Others are free, provided by Time Broadband for some reason.

Interesting. How much do these cards cost, where can you buy them and
which provider would you recommend ?
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Miguel Cruz wrote:

Huh...? Is there a Wifi hotspot in that park ?

They're everywhere now. It's quite nice. For instance, there's one you can
reach sitting by the fountain behind KLCC. And I don't think there's
anywhere in the Bukit Bintang area that's not covered by at least one. For
some of them you need to buy a card (TMNet or Airzed) but the cards are
really cheap. Others are free, provided by Time Broadband for some reason.

Interesting. How much do these cards cost, where can you buy them and
which provider would you recommend ?
--

Alfred Molon

http://www.molon.de/Galleries.htm - Photos from Myanmar, Brunei,
Malaysia, Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Nepal, Egypt, Austria, Prague,
Budapest and Portugal

Alfred Molon wrote:
Miguel Cruz wrote:
Huh...? Is there a Wifi hotspot in that park ?

They're everywhere now. It's quite nice. For instance, there's one you can
reach sitting by the fountain behind KLCC. And I don't think there's
anywhere in the Bukit Bintang area that's not covered by at least one. For
some of them you need to buy a card (TMNet or Airzed) but the cards are
really cheap. Others are free, provided by Time Broadband for some reason.

Interesting. How much do these cards cost, where can you buy them and
which provider would you recommend ?

Telekom Malaysia (TMNet) has the most hotspots but they are sort of erratic.

The best performance and reliability is from Airzed (www.airzed.com). One
month for RM30, 3 months for RM40, 1 year for RM140. All of those are for
unlimited access. Imagine 1 year of unlimited broadband access all around
town for 30 euro.

They sell the accounts at all those Kiosk convenience stores. The signup
process is a little dumb - you pay at the store, then you have to wait about
half an hour to get your password emailed to you. But of course you can't
use it to check your email until you have the password, so you have to go to
an internet cafe or find a free Time hotspot to retreive it.

miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos from 31 countries on 5 continents: http://travel.u.nu

Alfred Molon wrote:
Miguel Cruz wrote:
Huh...? Is there a Wifi hotspot in that park ?

They're everywhere now. It's quite nice. For instance, there's one you can
reach sitting by the fountain behind KLCC. And I don't think there's
anywhere in the Bukit Bintang area that's not covered by at least one. For
some of them you need to buy a card (TMNet or Airzed) but the cards are
really cheap. Others are free, provided by Time Broadband for some reason.

Interesting. How much do these cards cost, where can you buy them and
which provider would you recommend ?

Telekom Malaysia (TMNet) has the most hotspots but they are sort of erratic.

The best performance and reliability is from Airzed (www.airzed.com). One
month for RM30, 3 months for RM40, 1 year for RM140. All of those are for
unlimited access. Imagine 1 year of unlimited broadband access all around
town for 30 euro.

They sell the accounts at all those Kiosk convenience stores. The signup
process is a little dumb - you pay at the store, then you have to wait about
half an hour to get your password emailed to you. But of course you can't
use it to check your email until you have the password, so you have to go to
an internet cafe or find a free Time hotspot to retreive it.

miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos from 31 countries on 5 continents: http://travel.u.nu

So, if you see a Kancil WLB1591, keep out of his way - my wife referred to
the driver as a "samseng". If that is Malaysian for idiot, then I agree.

Go and check with the police station. Several years ago the police
have a public complain program "something like saman ekor", they take
your report and pursue from there. But I haven't hear that for several
years now. Probably they already scraped the program because it failed
to achieve anything significant. But I think you can try and see what
happen. I have never try to use it because I never face any such
incident when I am in Malaysia.

On 25 Sep 2004 13:48:52 -0700, (ajali) wrote:

Go and check with the police station. Several years ago the police
have a public complain program "something like saman ekor", they take
your report and pursue from there.

Well, I don't hold much hope seeing I still have an outstanding assault case
from 9 years ago. Can't imagine that anything would be done about simple
road-bullying. I'll just slash all 4 of his tyres next time I see his car -
who says I haven't picked up the Malaysian ways! :-)

Dave

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On 25 Sep 2004 13:48:52 -0700, (ajali) wrote:

Go and check with the police station. Several years ago the police
have a public complain program "something like saman ekor", they take
your report and pursue from there.

Well, I don't hold much hope seeing I still have an outstanding assault case
from 9 years ago. Can't imagine that anything would be done about simple
road-bullying. I'll just slash all 4 of his tyres next time I see his car -
who says I haven't picked up the Malaysian ways! :-)

Dave

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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:24:19 +0100, "Elaine"
wrote:

"Alfred Molon" wrote in message
m...
By the way, my wife also told me that I shouldn't use the credit card,
even in Sungei Wang or BB Plaza because people might copy the data on it
and create a copy. I've never had a fraud case in these past 15 years,
but should I perhaps be careful and only use the credit card in big and
"established" places ?

I had my card cloned whilst in Malaysia in April. I only used it 3 times -
at KLIA Duty Free, at the Royal Selangor factory shop and in a "big"
department store in Kota Kinabalu. I'm guessing it happened in the last
one, but can't be sure.

That happened to me too. After my trip to Malaysia in July-August
2003, someone cloned my debit card and maxed out my account taking a
trip to Songkhla. I got the money back, but had no money in my account
for a week and then my bank wouldn't issue another debit card. I
finally got a new account but don't plan on taking a debit card next
time I'm in Malaysia.

Michael

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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:24:19 +0100, "Elaine"
wrote:

"Alfred Molon" wrote in message
m...
By the way, my wife also told me that I shouldn't use the credit card,
even in Sungei Wang or BB Plaza because people might copy the data on it
and create a copy. I've never had a fraud case in these past 15 years,
but should I perhaps be careful and only use the credit card in big and
"established" places ?

I had my card cloned whilst in Malaysia in April. I only used it 3 times -
at KLIA Duty Free, at the Royal Selangor factory shop and in a "big"
department store in Kota Kinabalu. I'm guessing it happened in the last
one, but can't be sure.

That happened to me too. After my trip to Malaysia in July-August
2003, someone cloned my debit card and maxed out my account taking a
trip to Songkhla. I got the money back, but had no money in my account
for a week and then my bank wouldn't issue another debit card. I
finally got a new account but don't plan on taking a debit card next
time I'm in Malaysia.

Michael

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