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A Left Wing Whacko, ala Francais
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Be assured the quintessential Left Wing Whackos, the Evleths, will still vote for her regardless. Champagne Socialist From the desk of The Brussels Journal on Thu, 2007-01-18 17:39 A quote from The Daily Telegraph, 18 January 2007 Segolene Royal, the doyenne of the French left, suffered an embarrassing blow to her image as a presidential candidate yesterday when she was accused of tax dodging. Faced with taunts about being a gauche caviar, the Gallic equivalent of a champagne socialist, she denied being rich, instead claiming that she was just "well-off." Not only does she have part ownership in three impressive homes with her boyfriend, the Socialist Party chairman Francois Hollande, but the two have set up a real estate company to manage the properties. This has enabled them to reduce the amount that they pay in l'impot de solidarité sur la fortune, or ISF, a high tax imposed on anyone with assets of more than $985,000. comments: BWAHAHAHA! Submitted by Amsterdamsky on Fri, 2007-01-19 08:30. This is just like two weeks after she stated that wealthy Fwench should set an examply by paying their taxes and not complaining. » login to post comments ya Gotta love it. Submitted by longun45 on Fri, 2007-01-19 07:51. When the really wealthy, throw the rich and sucessful workers under the bus of taxation. Then drive the bus over them. The worst part is they get away with it by shouting their disgust for the rich. » login to post comments Royal Submitted by Cogito on Fri, 2007-01-19 02:21. That 's her name, Segolene Royal. Belonging to the same family as Napoleon. Both four-legged pigs living in the farm. » login to post comments In this country..... Submitted by oiznop on Thu, 2007-01-18 19:59. .....Andre, they are called Democrats!...... » login to post comments Segolène voted with her feet...;-) Submitted by Bruno on Thu, 2007-01-18 19:30. It's ironic to see that Segolène Royal and her companion Hollande voted with their feet (sort of) for less tax pressure on well-off people... The SCI (Societé Civile Immobilière) that they set up to manage their real estate belongings (several appartments and buildings) is the typical thing to do in France to evade the punitive tax system. The SCI is used as a sort of front company, allowing you not to be officially traced as the owner of the appartments or buildings, thus avoiding the heat of the tax. Even if this scheme is totally legal (and even necessary in France where the tax pressure has gone awry), it is of the utmost comic to see socialists (and a president contender for this one !) doing this sort of finacial acrobacy and thinking it would go unnoticed... Her voters will not forget that, especially if they remember her recent morality lessons about people who leave France to avoid the tax pressure....;-) » login to post comments I especially like this quote.... Submitted by oiznop on Thu, 2007-01-18 19:27. from the boyfriend.... Mr. Hollande last week risked alienating the middle classes even further by proposing raising taxes on salaries above about $5,000 a month. Last year, he famously told a television chat show audience: "I do not like the rich." "I do not like the rich"....????...yeah, unless it's yourself, huh, you and your pampered girlfriend, elitist leftist swine!.... » login to post comments Words of Wisdom: Submitted by Kapitein Andre on Thu, 2007-01-18 19:17. "There is no such thing as a wealthy socialist." The leaders of movements whose aims purport to be socio-economic equity and the liberation or emancipation of the low class (approx. 80% of any given population), are always elitist hypocrits themselves because: 1. These self-appointed leaders always have the wealth, standard of living, and/or annual income of an upper middle-class or high class individual 2. These people will not redistribute their income or live an austere life in order to lead by example 3. These people will not advocate a socialist society unless they are ensconced in the governing establishment or 'dictatorship of the proletariat' 4. Essentially, wealthy socialists will not make personal concessions even to achieve that which they hold as the ideal utopia for everyone else Furthermore, in a point that was echoed by Orwell, every revolution is led by the middle class using the low to usurp the position of the high; so long as the middle class is contented with the opportunity allotted to it, the low will never rebel. After the Black Death in medieval Europe, there were less people but more of them were educated, the latter with little chance to succeed; this glut of educated bourgeois' sons correlates directly with an increase in revolutionary activity (so-called Peasants' Revolts). » login to post comments Further evidence that..... Submitted by oiznop on Thu, 2007-01-18 19:10. .....this notion of the Political Left being for the working class, the oppressed, the minorities and the downtrodden is a load of BULL SCHIZEN!!!...Always has been, and always will be...."Oh, huh huh huh huh(uppity snobby, pu pu laughter)..I am just well off!..La di da"...."And as a result, the country can't survive without us elitists running things, cause we know what's best for your life!".... A real estate company with her lover, setting up properties???....A slum lord maybe???...Cashing in on the people she supposedly goes to bat for????.....Or is it a profitable venture, catering to the upper echelon, like herself???...Profits???...Sounds capitalistic to me..."I don't have to pay taxes cauz I am an elitist. That for the little people"...huh huh huh (again, uppity, snobbish pu pu laughter)......LEFTISTS = HYPOCRISY!!!!! » login to post comments |
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A Left Wing Whacko, ala Francais
PJ O'Donovan wrote:
» 8 comments | 1096 reads Be assured the quintessential Left Wing Whackos, the Evleths, will still vote for her regardless. Champagne Socialist From the desk of The Brussels Journal on Thu, 2007-01-18 17:39 A quote from The Daily Telegraph, 18 January 2007 Segolene Royal, the doyenne of the French left, 'Doyenne' means the oldest person (in a group) in French and in English, or, in French, the head of a University faculty. suffered an embarrassing blow to her image as a presidential candidate yesterday when she was accused of tax dodging. Was she, I can't say I noticed and I do read French newspapers every day. Faced with taunts about being a gauche caviar, the Gallic equivalent of a champagne socialist, she denied being rich, instead claiming that she was just "well-off." Not only does she have part ownership in three impressive homes with her boyfriend, the Socialist Party chairman Francois Hollande, but the two have set up a real estate company to manage the properties. She does not have what I would call particularly impressive homes and an SCI (Société Civile Immobilière) is a fairly common form of ownership of houses when the owners are not related or their marital situation could cause difficulties for the other in the event of one half of the partnership dying. This has enabled them to reduce the amount that they pay in l'impot de solidarité sur la fortune, or ISF, a high tax imposed on anyone with assets of more than $985,000. No, it is imposed if ones TAXABLE assets are greater than 750,000 Euros (I'll leave you to convert that to your monopoly money). Do come back when you know what you are talking about. |
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A Left Wing Whacko, ala Francais
On 21/01/07 12:32, in article ,
"John of Aix" wrote: PJ O'Donovan wrote: » 8 comments | 1096 reads Be assured the quintessential Left Wing Whackos, the Evleths, will still vote for her regardless. Champagne Socialist From the desk of The Brussels Journal on Thu, 2007-01-18 17:39 A quote from The Daily Telegraph, 18 January 2007 Segolene Royal, the doyenne of the French left, 'Doyenne' means the oldest person (in a group) in French and in English, or, in French, the head of a University faculty. And there is no doyenne of the French left because of its heterogeneity. And Arlette Laguiller is older in any case! And retired and collecting her pension. suffered an embarrassing blow to her image as a presidential candidate yesterday when she was accused of tax dodging. Was she, I can't say I noticed and I do read French newspapers every day. She is currently leading in the polls, not by much and probably by a statistically insignificant amount. We have a while to wait before we can see which way the political winds are blowing. She has one advantage over her opponent, Sarkozy. She is a woman and women are naturally more "socialist" than men. French society will not yield up its social protections to enter into the a system of the false promises of hyperliberal capitalism, which have delivered nothing to the working and middle class of America in several decades. So she is better placed in this regard than Sarkozy who tries to play it "pro-American" before the Americans but standard middle-right before the French. The Sarkozy is two faced in that regard. Royal? She certainly is not pro- or anti-American, the issue is not part of her political baggage. Years ago, we got tired of having men running the Conseil Syndical ìn our building, they were constantly in dispute with one another, their egos to involved to be occupied with the collective good of our building. So we elected an all women Conseil, with my wife at the head. France too needs a woman President, and Prime Minister and not always the same old tired male ENARCs have governed or missgoverned France for years. Right or left makes no real difference. The French right has Michèle Alliot-Marie who would probably make a better President than either Royal or Sarkozy. In the past we had Simone Veil, who lead with here pushing through the abortion law years ago, and freeing women from the tyranny of men in France. Faced with taunts about being a gauche caviar, the Gallic equivalent of a champagne socialist, she denied being rich, instead claiming that she was just "well-off." Not only does she have part ownership in three impressive homes with her boyfriend, the Socialist Party chairman Francois Hollande, but the two have set up a real estate company to manage the properties. She does not have what I would call particularly impressive homes and an SCI (Société Civile Immobilière) is a fairly common form of ownership of houses when the owners are not related or their marital situation could cause difficulties for the other in the event of one half of the partnership dying. This has enabled them to reduce the amount that they pay in l'impot de solidarité sur la fortune, or ISF, a high tax imposed on anyone with assets of more than $985,000. No, it is imposed if ones TAXABLE assets are greater than 750,000 Euros (I'll leave you to convert that to your monopoly money). There are a lot of exclusions to that tax. Most French politicians are not that rich but with the rise in real estate values, people owning a 3-pieces in Paris will come close to reaching the level of "wealth". They don't feel rich. Le Pen has a real fortune, given to him (no earned) by somebody hypnotized by his right wing politics. He is worth around 7-8 million euros. The irony is that one could have several Van Goghs (art is not taxed, nor antiques) but not be subject to the ISF. The very rich have merely gone to Switzerland, Belgium or England. But neither Sarkozy or Royal are worth that much. France is not the USA, which has a lot over very rich people in Congress, in particular the Senate. The French Assembly is not occupied by those who represent the big moneyed interests of the nation. If anything, the French population is in better control, democratically, than the American population is in the USA. The real governance is by the Assembly via the Prime Minister, the President plays a strange and often secondary role |
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Why doesn't Segolène Royal marry her live in boyfriend. Does France really want a head of state who sneers at the institution of marriage? Besides marriage, what other institutions would Socialist- Communist Segolène Royal deride? Religion? Private Property? How about freedom of the press, freedom of assembly? The history of Socialism /Communism says no to all of the above and kill those or imprison those who disagree. The historical record is quite clear. Does France want a Hugo Chavez type dicator? A Fidel Castro? How about a Kim Jong Il? |
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Zubenelgenubi wrote:
Why doesn't Segolène Royal marry her live in boyfriend. That's her affair. Nobody gives a ****, this isnt the USA you know. Does France really want a head of state who sneers at the institution of marriage? She doesn't. Besides marriage, what other institutions would Socialist- Communist Segolène Royal deride? She doesn't deride marriage. Of course if you can supply a link that shows that she does then I'll accept it of course. But seriously, do you really think that anyone who derided marriage in a society where it is still the norm would have a chance of being elected president? It is simply that here marriage or not marriage, we don't give a ****. This isn't the USA, we're civilised and free, everyone makes their own life choice Religion? Private Property? How about freedom of the press, freedom of assembly? The history of Socialism /Communism says no to all of the above and kill those or imprison those who disagree. The historical record is quite clear. Does France want a Hugo Chavez type dicator? A Fidel Castro? How about a Kim Jong Il? Yes dear, now off you go out to play, the fresh air will do you good. |
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"John of Aix" kirjoitti ... Bugger off from rte. The group is for discussion on travelling in Europe. |
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On 21/01/07 15:46, in article ,
"John of Aix" wrote: Yes dear, now off you go out to play, the fresh air will do you good. Bravo, John. But this guy won't do it. |
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Markku Grönroos wrote: "John of Aix" kirjoitti ... Bugger off from rte. The group is for discussion on travelling in Europe. Alas it is Piggy that you should be complaining to. He is the one who started including RTE. |
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