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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 21:35:20 -0400, Howie
wrote: The post above has sparked an entrepreneurial idea. Wouldn't it be cool if one the the HAL ships that is registered in the Netherlands, were to offer a marijuana lounge on board when on the open sea. Howie Do you *really* want DEA to board every ship when it reaches the U.S.? Opinions as to marijuama being harmfuil or not or whatever aside, there's no way the U.S. would allow such a ship to dock. Never mind that fact that there's few and far between coutnries that are as tolerant as Holland about this. But I suppose itineraries wouldn't matter...participants would not notice they had only gone out to sea three miles and come back: "Say dude, this place looks just like home." "Yeah, really cool of them to fix it up so we'd feel like we never left." Jim P. |
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Jim wrote in
: On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 21:35:20 -0400, Howie wrote: The post above has sparked an entrepreneurial idea. Wouldn't it be cool if one the the HAL ships that is registered in the Netherlands, were to offer a marijuana lounge on board when on the open sea. Howie Do you *really* want DEA to board every ship when it reaches the U.S.? Opinions as to marijuama being harmfuil or not or whatever aside, there's no way the U.S. would allow such a ship to dock. Never mind that fact that there's few and far between coutnries that are as tolerant as Holland about this. But I suppose itineraries wouldn't matter...participants would not notice they had only gone out to sea three miles and come back: "Say dude, this place looks just like home." "Yeah, really cool of them to fix it up so we'd feel like we never left." Jim P. Territorial limit is 12 NM not 3. Changed a long time ago. Limited control out to 70 NM (pollution control) and Economic explotation (minerals and fish) to 200 NM. Right to stop and search a ship is restricted. If the vessel is owned by a government the US is not allowed to search it; even if within US territorial limits. The most they can do is demand that the ship leave US waters (weather and seaworthyness permitting). |
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Territorial limit is 12 NM not 3. Changed a long time ago. Limited control out to 70 NM (pollution control) and Economic explotation (minerals and fish) to 200 NM. Right to stop and search a ship is restricted. If the vessel is owned by a government the US is not allowed to search it; even if within US territorial limits. The most they can do is demand that the ship leave US waters (weather and seaworthyness permitting). However, they do have the right to stop and search a ship if it is headed for a US port. Tom Smith |
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"Thomas Smith" -NO-SPAM wrote
in : Territorial limit is 12 NM not 3. Changed a long time ago. Limited control out to 70 NM (pollution control) and Economic explotation (minerals and fish) to 200 NM. Right to stop and search a ship is restricted. If the vessel is owned by a government the US is not allowed to search it; even if within US territorial limits. The most they can do is demand that the ship leave US waters (weather and seaworthyness permitting). However, they do have the right to stop and search a ship if it is headed for a US port. Tom Smith No, UN treaties specify that a government owned ship is not to be searched. They can deny entry, and demand that the ship leave US waters (subject to traditional rights of safe harbor etc) but they are not allowed to stop and search. If a government really wanted to play games it could own/operate a hospital ship that provides medical MJ to patients on board. All would be legal and the most that could be demanded would be to up anchor and move to the 12 NM limit, where patients can visit with cabin cruisers. Customs and Immigration for people returning to shore after visiting the ship could be interesting however. There are 3 classes of ships considered. Naval vessels -- thou shalt not touch except with weapons, but which are not to visit without prior permission Government owned -- (oceanographic research, fishing research, hospitals, etc) -- they are the equivilent of politicians and diplomats. Free to come and go but may be expelled as persona non gratia. Civilians -- Heave to!!! bilateral treaties, UN treaties, and when in doubt cite stopping for suspicion of engaging in the African Slave Trade. |
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