rapid seating

I think what airlines should do is tell eveyone boarding an aircraft to
go find hte flight attendant and take a seat.... much like when you park
your car at a stadium or event, you follow the parking attendants
instructions...

might make boarding faster.

another way would be to set people inside capsules or modules and load
the modules on the plane much like cargo containers get loaded
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I think what airlines should do is tell eveyone boarding an aircraft to go
find hte flight attendant and take a seat.... much like when you park your
car at a stadium or event, you follow the parking attendants
instructions...
Abandoninig the "zone boarding system" would be a beginning. It just never
did for anyone the authors intentions. You really do need to fill the
airplane like you would load any container, from back to front.
s

"Steve Cain" wrote in message
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I think what airlines should do is tell eveyone boarding an aircraft to go
find hte flight attendant and take a seat.... much like when you park your
car at a stadium or event, you follow the parking attendants
instructions...
Abandoninig the "zone boarding system" would be a beginning. It just
never did for anyone the authors intentions. You really do need to fill
the airplane like you would load any container, from back to front.
s

That's because of all the special exceptions and courtesies extended, along
with all the passengers who think they should be entitled to same and
proceed to block the aisle as they try to squeeze overloaded itemd into the
overhead bins..

"I think what airlines should do is tell eveyone boarding an aircraft to
go
find hte flight attendant and take a seat.... much like when you park
your car at a stadium or event, you follow the parking attendants
instructions...
Abandoninig the "zone boarding system" would be a beginning. It just
never did for anyone the authors intentions. You really do need to fill
the airplane like you would load any container, from back to front.
s

That's because of all the special exceptions and courtesies extended,
along with all the passengers who think they should be entitled to same
and proceed to block the aisle as they try to squeeze overloaded itemd
into the overhead bins..

Yes Sancho, and do visualize those sitting aft belongining to earlier
boarding zones; the stopping forward or mid plane and hoisting their
carryons into the compartments there and then having taken anothers storage
area and simultaneously blocking others passage they proceed to their
assigned seats. Of course if the airplane was being loaded rear to front
the flight attendants would be able to prevent this sort of behavior by
simple observation. With a "random zone" load one doesn't have a clue as to
where the assigned seating is comparative to luggage storage.
So the real world deal is there are many travelers who would do anything to
avoid carrying the carry on another 20 to 50 seats back and out again.
s

Steve Cain wrote:
You really do need to fill the
airplane like you would load any container, from back to front.


It is a bit more complex. Optimum flow would involve first sending
window seat holders, then middle seat holders and finally aisle seat owners.

However, if window seat holders take 30 seconds to stow luggage and sit
down, during this time, the aisle is blocked.

And while 20-A blocks the aisle to lift bag into luggage rack, 20-F
can't really do the same on his side because the aisle is blocked. So
you might as well be sending 20-A followed by 19-F, 18-A, 17-F etc.

And you don't want to send 20-A followed by 20-F followed by 19-A and
19-F because 20-F will wait in the aisle while 20-A stowes its luggage,
preventing either 19-A or 19-F from stowing luggage and sitting down.
(and the 19 people will be blocking rows 18 and 17 preventing those from
stowing their luggage.

In message "Steve Cain"
was claimed to have wrote:

...
I think what airlines should do is tell eveyone boarding an aircraft to go
find hte flight attendant and take a seat.... much like when you park your
car at a stadium or event, you follow the parking attendants
instructions...
Abandoninig the "zone boarding system" would be a beginning. It just never
did for anyone the authors intentions. You really do need to fill the
airplane like you would load any container, from back to front.

Redrawing the zones to load a combination of back to front,
furthest-from-the-isle to isle would help...

Regardless of how you order the rows, you'll always have the idiot in
the isle seat who bolts to his seat, does up his seatbelt then acts
surprised when passengers show up for the middle and window seats.

Loading 4-8 rows at a time would seem to me to be the way to go, but
only the furthest-from-the-isle goes first, in the next batch the next
inner most seat gets to board along with a few more rows of window
seats.

If you're traveling with someone and seated side-by-side you can board
together.

But then maybe I've just been playing Sokoban too much.

In message
Shawn Hirn was claimed to have wrote:

Yup, and what exactly is the problem here? From where I sit, every seat
on the plane gets to its destination at the same time. What's most
important is that the flight arrives safely and reasonably on time.
Anything else just doesn't matter to most people.

When every seat arrives is rather important to some of the people
sitting in those seats, and the faster planes can load the less likely
we are to get out late.

For a longhaul aircraft that only does 1-3 flights per day the
turnaround time isn't important, but for aircraft averaging 8-12 flights
a day, shaving a few minutes off of each boarding phase means that
hardware can fly another flight, reducing the total number of aircraft
needed to service the same number of paying customers, which potentially
keeps an airline alive. I'd call that a good thing.

jamoran wrote:
another way would be to set people inside capsules or modules and load
the modules on the plane much like cargo containers get loaded

Yeah, why do the first-class need to be the first on? They just end up
getting elbowed by us economy-class peons as we board.

On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:00:20 -0400, "Jonathan D. Parshall"
wrote:


Yeah, why do the first-class need to be the first on? They just end up
getting elbowed by us economy-class peons as we board.

So that the peons don't put their carryon where it doesn't belong,
drinks can be served and to get ready for the wild party that starts
when the curtain is drawn. G