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Old October 20th, 2003, 07:43 PM
Phil Donachie
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Hiya, Im considering doing the following trip. London - overland China,
(via Russia), fly Thailand, fly Australia, NZ, and back to London. Not sure
about homewards route, perhaps America? Would definatly like to fit in cook
islands, Fiji, or some other tropical place if possible.

The problem is I want to goto South Africa to do some sararis etc. Im not
sure if I can fit it in on my return route, as round the world tickets with
star alliance and one world, dont let u go back on yourself, (and I would
have to fly pass uk, if comming from nz).

I could do South Africa on outward route, but really want to do journey from
London - Russia/china overland.

Any suggestions please?

I am a low-cost student backpacker, so can only afford really cheap flights
etc.

Thanks Phil :-)


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Old October 20th, 2003, 08:12 PM
Torn Ligament
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Phil Donachie wrote:
Hiya, Im considering doing the following trip. London - overland China,
(via Russia), fly Thailand, fly Australia, NZ, and back to London. Not sure
about homewards route, perhaps America? Would definatly like to fit in cook
islands, Fiji, or some other tropical place if possible.

The problem is I want to goto South Africa to do some sararis etc.


Instead of "goto", you may instead prefer "gosub" unless you plan to stay
there :-)

If your first air segment is from China to Thailand, then the "clock" really
starts there, unless you take a short flight from London to paris and take the
train there.

However, in Star, ground segments count in the total distance. So the
London-China would count towards the total distance travelled. And most RTW
packages do require that you end your journey in the same country (or city
depending on package) that you started from.

With Star, you could fly Air NZ from NZ to Fiji, then to Los Angeles. There,
you'd have to endure domestic USA flights to New York and Atlanta and fly to
South Africa from there.

Airlines still have their own round the world packages which may include
airlines that are not part of the same alliance. So you'd need to find a
package that include South African Airways to be able to include the hop from
USA to Africa and perhaps Africa back to London.

There are also non-RTW packages which may be of use to you, especially since
you're doing such a long hop by land (London to China). You will really need
to do some research with a good travel agent on this one.
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Old October 20th, 2003, 10:04 PM
Al Bennett
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"Phil Donachie" philip.donachie @ntlworld.com wrote in message
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Hiya, Im considering doing the following trip. London - overland China,
(via Russia), fly Thailand, fly Australia, NZ, and back to London. Not

sure
about homewards route, perhaps America? Would definatly like to fit
in cook islands, Fiji, or some other tropical place if possible.

The problem is I want to goto South Africa to do some sararis etc.
Im not sure if I can fit it in on my return route, as round the world
tickets with star alliance and one world, dont let u go back on
yourself, (and I would have to fly pass uk, if comming from nz).


Star allows you to do anything you want to do for the most part,
and that does indeed include backtracking *and* going further than
round the world (providing you don't transit your country of origin.)
You just have to keep within certain restrictions like mileage totals,
city transfers, city stopovers, IATA area 2 to 3 restrictions, max of 28
segments and oceanic crossing limits as well as a few other minor
restrictions.

You could do London-Frankfurt-Jo'Burg-Frankfurt-Moscow-Beijing
-Seoul-Bangkok-Sydney-Auckland-Rarotonga-LAX-London
quite legally on a Star RTW, although it's over 36,000 mls so you're
in the top level of the fares on offer. By the same token, you still
have 2,000 miles to play with so there are plenty of other options
for you still to play with. (IE - From Auckland, take your pick
of Samoa, Fiji, Raro, Papeete & Honolulu for example).

Another option that I think is better for you is the "World Journey"
RTW. This is offered by KLM, Sth African, Malaysia, Emirates,
Kenya Airways, Northwest, Alaska, Continental, Air Pacific and a
couple of other minor ones like Jet (India) etc.
Because of the carriers concerned, you can really whack a heap
of miles off what the Star one would be and get yourself a decent
lower RTW fare, yet still get everything in you want to do.
You could do:
London-Nairobi (still good safari options) on Kenya Airways
Nairobi-Dubai-Moscow on Emirates
Your overland to Beijing
Beijing-Kuala Lumpur-Thailand (not just BKK - other options) on Malaysia
Thailand-KUL-Australia on Malaysia
Sydney-Melbourne or Brisbane to Auckland on Malaysia or Emirates
Auckland or Christchurch to Fiji on Air Pacific, then any South Pac
island
Fiji-LAX on Air Pacific
LAX back to London any which way you want, KLM, Continental,
Northwest via any of their ports.
Again, plenty of options with this RTW.

I'm presuming your overland is something like the Trans-Siberian
or similar, so it's always going to hurt you as ground or surface
segments count towards the mileage of the RTW.
If you plan well, and choose the right RTW, you can do all you
want to do at a reasonable cost. Sounds like an excellent trip!

Good Luck. Cheers.







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Old October 30th, 2003, 01:04 AM
Phil :-
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Thanks very much ill look into that!
 




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