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Brats?
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Brats?
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 21:00:27 -0600, randee wrote:
Probably where the slang term of brat for a naughty boy originated...... Altho brat and brat are pronounced differently in English. Do you find bratwursts, or some equivalent in Croatia? Carole Allen wrote: "Brat" is the Croatian word for brother. Etymology: perhaps from English dialect brat (coarse garment) |
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Kielbasa
In my experience Kielbasa comes in both smoked & fresh. The smoked
variety looks a bit reddish like most smoked meat. FFM randee wrote: In the midwest (USA) I know, brats (i.e. bratwursts) are definitely considered a German style sausage. Kielbasa is probably the most well known Polish style sausage (and it is certainly not red!). In fact, I would consider red sausage in the US an abomination except for a few Hungarian styles heavy on the paprikash. As an aside, the best kielbasa in the USA does not come from New York, Chicago, Phoenix or Milwaukee, but rather from a small Ukrainian sausage shop just outside Detroit, in Dearborn, Michigan. Haven't tried kielbasa (or it's relatives such as kabanosche) overseas yet, but the sausage maker's here in the US that came from the old country claim the US versions are just as good or better. wf. Stephen Ellenson wrote: Sorry I'm entering this discussion late but in my part of the usa where many Germans (and Poles, Norwegians, Swedes, Finns, Hmong, and Welsh) settled, brats are american food that are grilled after being boiled in beer with onions before GB Packer games. Served with a hot mustard, more onions, sometimes kraut, and always more beer :-) Slightly OT ; I was once at a street fair in San Diego that had a stand selling brats. They were red sausages that looked like what is known as Polish sausage in the midwest. Just didn't quite do it. |
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Brats?
"Alan Thomas Harrison" wrote in message ... My abiding memory of Bratwurst is the little American boy of about two in a Swiss hotel, who exclaimed as the waitress brought Bratwurst, "Gee brat-worst! We're having American food tonight." Alan Harrison Sorry I'm entering this discussion late but in my part of the usa where many Germans (and Poles, Norwegians, Swedes, Finns, Hmong, and Welsh) settled, brats are american food that are grilled after being boiled in beer with onions before GB Packer games. Served with a hot mustard, more onions, sometimes kraut, and always more beer :-) Slightly OT ; I was once at a street fair in San Diego that had a stand selling brats. They were red sausages that looked like what is known as Polish sausage in the midwest. Just didn't quite do it. |
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Kielbasa
Frank F. Matthews wrote in message
news In my experience Kielbasa comes in both smoked & fresh. The smoked variety looks a bit reddish like most smoked meat. FFM Best kielbasa I've had was in Torun, Poland. Served best with a beer or two. Mmmmmmmm.... --- DFM |
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Kielbasa
Hmm, I think I would have called the smoked sausages a brown on the
outside, a deeper brown than the fresh sausages. Now I have seen commercial smoked sausages that I would call red, but I stay away from those as the label will usually make a comment about color added (heh, red dye #2). I tend to get the smoked meats and sausages from true one man sausage shops, such as Oltime and Markowitz's. Two large commercial brands that are good are Continental and Usinger's, both having started out as one man operations. But I'm not sure I'd call any of theirs as having a red tint, guess I'll pay closer attention next purchase. I have hardly tried any sausages at all in the old country, and I'm really curious to see if they differ much. Guess we'll spend some time in the Austro-Hungarian Empire area next trip....... -- wf. "Frank F. Matthews" wrote: In my experience Kielbasa comes in both smoked & fresh. The smoked variety looks a bit reddish like most smoked meat. FFM |
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Kielbasa
In article , randee wrote:
Hmm, I think I would have called the smoked sausages a brown on the outside, a deeper brown than the fresh sausages. Now I have seen commercial smoked sausages that I would call red, but I stay away from those as the label will usually make a comment about color added (heh, red dye #2). [snip] It may or may not reassure you to know that red dye #2 hasn't been used since 1976. -- Trudi |
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Brats?
Didn;t look for it while we were there...we did get into local
specialities...wanted to see how they compared to mine (made from grandma's recipes)...it turns out my versions of their foods are pretty close... On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 21:00:27 -0600, randee wrote: Probably where the slang term of brat for a naughty boy originated...... Altho brat and brat are pronounced differently in English. Do you find bratwursts, or some equivalent in Croatia? Carole Allen wrote: "Brat" is the Croatian word for brother. -- wf. Wayne Flowers Randee Greenwald |
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Kielbasa
deepfloydmars wrote:
Best kielbasa I've had was in Torun, Poland. Served best with a beer or two. Mmmmmmmm.... Well, you never had kielbasa from the "Kielbasa Capital of the World," Shenandoah, PA :-) :-) Sandor |
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Brats?
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:
Regensburg (literally "rain borough") It's named after river "Regen" though, not its weather. Originally a Roman settlement "Castra Regina" (same meaning). Well, "regina" in Latin means "queen". Anyhow I find quite amusing the translation of geographic names into another language. Ever tried e.g. to translate "Liverpool" or "Washington" into German (or Italian) :-) There was an amusing trend on it.cultura.linguistica.italiano a while ago about funny translations of geographic names. A real one I liked was a grave stone in a church in Wuerzburg about an "archiepiscopus herbipolensis". -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- is a newsreading account used by more persons to avoid unwanted spam. Any mail returning to this address will be rejected. Users can disclose their e-mail address in the article if they wish so. |
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