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Teaching english in Europe with no degree but TEFL certificate?
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:42:11 +0000, Padraig Breathnach
wrote: DDT Filled Mormons wrote: On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:35:06 +0100, B wrote: On 10 Jan 2006 14:34:55 -0800, "flyingdutchman" wrote: Hi All, I was wondering if it is feasible to teach English in Europe with only a college diploma and a TEFL certificate. I also have a EU passport. Any suggestions would be great!! In Italy, those qualifications might get you a job in a private language instruction school, but the pay is really miserable. In your parts, how much per hour would you expect to get? Here it's 12 - 18 Euro/hr. If you can land 20 hours a week, that's not a miserable income. Twenty hours teaching a week is essentially a full-time job, as you have to allow time for preparation of classes and materials, for correcting students' work, and for bits an pieces of extra involvement with students. To me, between €240 and €360 p.w. does not seem a great income for somebody who probably has a high level of education. It's not a big salary, but the work is plentiful, and low stress. Certainly the pay cannot be considered 'miserable', as you can have quite a reasonable standard of living in these parts on that money. You also have plenty of spare time to figure out how to get other money - if you are so inclined. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
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Teaching english in Europe with no degree but TEFL certificate?
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:44:13 +0000, Padraig Breathnach
wrote: DDT Filled Mormons wrote: On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:02:49 +0100, Earl Evleth wrote: snip Why did you change the subject? You ask such a question as that in usenet? I can't see any good reason why he would add those extra spaces, except to create a new thread. Why would you do that? -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
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Teaching english in Europe with no degree but TEFL certificate?
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:42:18 +0100, DDT Filled Mormons
wrote: On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:15:45 +0000, Padraig Breathnach wrote: Mxsmanic wrote: Translation usually pays very poorly, too, although that depends a lot on the language and the translator's subject specialties. Often in the region of €150 per 1000 words. For quality work, that's a poor rate. You can translate 1000 words in a couple of hours. Pretty good money really. It would certainly help pay for a nicer apartment in somewhere like Paris. It depends on the type of material. Most of what I've been asked to translate is pretty technical and I've had to consult a technical dictionary for nearly every sentence. Also I'm much more frequently asked to translate English to Italian than the other way around, and that takes a lot longer. I really wouldn't do translation except as a favor to someone. I translate stuff for our local tourist office without charging them, as a civic service. I think they feel guilty about asking me too often, but that's fine with me! It's too annoying. I always want to throw out half the sentences because they're redundant or poorly written or just stupid. They don't stop to think that half the things they think are interesting about our town is of interest only to someone local and wouldn't have the least interest to a tourist. -- Barbara Vaughan My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup |
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Teaching english in Europe with no degree but TEFL certificate?
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:13:57 +0100, B wrote:
I really wouldn't do translation except as a favor to someone. I translate stuff for our local tourist office without charging them, as a civic service. I think they feel guilty about asking me too often, but that's fine with me! It's too annoying. I always want to throw out half the sentences because they're redundant or poorly written or just stupid. They don't stop to think that half the things they think are interesting about our town is of interest only to someone local and wouldn't have the least interest to a tourist. Like an unremarkable monument or a tiny library? I have been shown both recently in Le Marche. The same thing happens here too! -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
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Teaching english in Europe with no degree but TEFLcertificate?
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Teaching english in Europe with no degree but TEFL certificate?
flyingdutchman:
I was wondering if it is feasible to teach English in Europe with only a college diploma and a TEFL certificate. I also have a EU passport. 1. Bear with me, I haven't read the whole thread yet (I'm quite busy at the moment). 2. I have no clue what a TEFL certificate is. Having said that, almost everywhere in Europe you can start your own business teaching languages without teachers diplomas (although it helps having one). Several friends of mine are conducting private courses (Spanish, Dutch). Example: I'm in the 'Dutch for German speakers business'. Holländisch lernen - http://hollaendisch-lernen.ardane.com |
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Teaching english in Europe with no degree but TEFL certificate?
Martin:
I take it that you don't live in a broom cupboard. Nope. I have a luxury carton box behind Central Station. Don't forget to bring beer when visiting me there. -- Holländisch lernen - http://hollaendisch-lernen.ardane.com WebWax Webdesign - http://webwax.ardane.com |
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Teaching english in Europe with no degree but TEFL certificate?
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:12:50 +0100, Martin wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 05:33:25 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote: Martin writes: Occupied working? Sometimes, but often it is dead time between classes. Time to do some translating. Given his stated IT skills, he could do well at this. The only issue being that he as useless as tits on a bull. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
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Teaching english in Europe with no degree but TEFL certificate?
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:07:30 +0100, Erick T. Barkhuis
-o-m wrote: flyingdutchman: I was wondering if it is feasible to teach English in Europe with only a college diploma and a TEFL certificate. I also have a EU passport. 1. Bear with me, I haven't read the whole thread yet (I'm quite busy at the moment). You can skip it for the most part. 2. I have no clue what a TEFL certificate is. It's a fairly worthless piece of paper. I don't know any English teachers with one (this thread prompted me to ask a couple of questions to some friends here). Having any type of diploma is likely to be enough if you look like you would make a good teacher. Having said that, almost everywhere in Europe you can start your own business teaching languages without teachers diplomas (although it helps having one). Several friends of mine are conducting private courses (Spanish, Dutch). Example: I'm in the 'Dutch for German speakers business'. Are you Dutch? If so you are technically not mother-tongue English, although you probably speak it so well that no-one would know/care. (Sidenote: I have heard it said a few times that the Dutch speak better English than the English!) If you have (or say you have) spent time in England/USA etc, you can just bull**** your way through. In fact, with this type of work the ability to bull**** reigns supreme, given that English is a pretty indefinable beast, and students are unlikely to be really fluent. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
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