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  #21  
Old December 13th, 2004, 06:11 PM
Dillon Pyron
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Thus spake "Captain C" :

You can board in San Francisco and disembark in Seward or Whittier because
the ship will transit through
either Vancouver or Victoria Canada, (A foreign port).


Incorrect. It must be a "distant foreign port". And Canada and
Mexico don't qualify.

The Jones Act you are
referring to is an act to protect the
railroad system. It is antiquated, but still exists. All foreign registered
ship, (and most are), cannot
pick up passengers and disembark passengers between two or more US ports, so
the cruise lines
get around this by routing via a foreign port.


Again, incorrect.

For instance Miami to Nassau
and back to Miami, Ft Lauderdale
and out to one of the Bahamas Keys before returning to Ft Lauderdale.
The daily casino cruises are US registered ships. (However it is very costly
to register in the US).


Not all are US registered. Carnival offers "cruise to nowhere" that
just head out to sea for a day or two. They don't visit any ports.

Hope that helps you a bit?


Not a bit.

Campbell


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dillon

"When the French are against it, you know we can't
be far wrong." - Adm. Bobbie Ray Inman
  #22  
Old December 13th, 2004, 06:11 PM
Dillon Pyron
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Thus spake "Captain C" :

You can board in San Francisco and disembark in Seward or Whittier because
the ship will transit through
either Vancouver or Victoria Canada, (A foreign port).


Incorrect. It must be a "distant foreign port". And Canada and
Mexico don't qualify.

The Jones Act you are
referring to is an act to protect the
railroad system. It is antiquated, but still exists. All foreign registered
ship, (and most are), cannot
pick up passengers and disembark passengers between two or more US ports, so
the cruise lines
get around this by routing via a foreign port.


Again, incorrect.

For instance Miami to Nassau
and back to Miami, Ft Lauderdale
and out to one of the Bahamas Keys before returning to Ft Lauderdale.
The daily casino cruises are US registered ships. (However it is very costly
to register in the US).


Not all are US registered. Carnival offers "cruise to nowhere" that
just head out to sea for a day or two. They don't visit any ports.

Hope that helps you a bit?


Not a bit.

Campbell


--
dillon

"When the French are against it, you know we can't
be far wrong." - Adm. Bobbie Ray Inman
  #23  
Old December 13th, 2004, 06:25 PM
Chrissy Cruiser
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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:11:25 GMT, Dillon Pyron wrote:

For instance Miami to Nassau
and back to Miami, Ft Lauderdale
and out to one of the Bahamas Keys before returning to Ft Lauderdale.
The daily casino cruises are US registered ships. (However it is very costly
to register in the US).


Not all are US registered. Carnival offers "cruise to nowhere" that
just head out to sea for a day or two. They don't visit any ports.

Hope that helps you a bit?


Not a bit.


You're on a roll today.
  #24  
Old December 13th, 2004, 06:25 PM
Chrissy Cruiser
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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:11:25 GMT, Dillon Pyron wrote:

For instance Miami to Nassau
and back to Miami, Ft Lauderdale
and out to one of the Bahamas Keys before returning to Ft Lauderdale.
The daily casino cruises are US registered ships. (However it is very costly
to register in the US).


Not all are US registered. Carnival offers "cruise to nowhere" that
just head out to sea for a day or two. They don't visit any ports.

Hope that helps you a bit?


Not a bit.


You're on a roll today.
  #25  
Old December 13th, 2004, 08:07 PM
Don & Lynn
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This is all very confusing regarding a foreign port. Last season, both the
Diamond and Sapphire Princess ships did 7-day cruises to the inside passage,
all US ports, round trip Seattle. The only gimmick was a several hour stop
in Victoria, BC, the night before they return to Seattle. Victoria,
apparently qualifies as a distant and foreign port.
Don


"Captain C" wrote in message
m...
You can board in San Francisco and disembark in Seward or Whittier because
the ship will transit through
either Vancouver or Victoria Canada, (A foreign port). The Jones Act you

are
referring to is an act to protect the
railroad system. It is antiquated, but still exists. All foreign

registered
ship, (and most are), cannot
pick up passengers and disembark passengers between two or more US ports,

so
the cruise lines
get around this by routing via a foreign port. For instance Miami to

Nassau
and back to Miami, Ft Lauderdale
and out to one of the Bahamas Keys before returning to Ft Lauderdale.
The daily casino cruises are US registered ships. (However it is very

costly
to register in the US).
Hope that helps you a bit?
Campbell




  #26  
Old December 13th, 2004, 08:07 PM
Don & Lynn
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This is all very confusing regarding a foreign port. Last season, both the
Diamond and Sapphire Princess ships did 7-day cruises to the inside passage,
all US ports, round trip Seattle. The only gimmick was a several hour stop
in Victoria, BC, the night before they return to Seattle. Victoria,
apparently qualifies as a distant and foreign port.
Don


"Captain C" wrote in message
m...
You can board in San Francisco and disembark in Seward or Whittier because
the ship will transit through
either Vancouver or Victoria Canada, (A foreign port). The Jones Act you

are
referring to is an act to protect the
railroad system. It is antiquated, but still exists. All foreign

registered
ship, (and most are), cannot
pick up passengers and disembark passengers between two or more US ports,

so
the cruise lines
get around this by routing via a foreign port. For instance Miami to

Nassau
and back to Miami, Ft Lauderdale
and out to one of the Bahamas Keys before returning to Ft Lauderdale.
The daily casino cruises are US registered ships. (However it is very

costly
to register in the US).
Hope that helps you a bit?
Campbell




  #27  
Old December 13th, 2004, 08:51 PM
Juliana L Holm
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If you return to the port you start at, you need either zero ports (as in
a cruise to nowhere) or a foreign port.

If you cruise out of one US port and to a foreign port (or vice versa) as in
the one way Alaska Cruises out of Vancouver, you are fine.

If you cruise out of one US port to another US port, then and only then do you
need a distant foreign port.

Don & Lynn wrote:
This is all very confusing regarding a foreign port. Last season, both the
Diamond and Sapphire Princess ships did 7-day cruises to the inside passage,
all US ports, round trip Seattle. The only gimmick was a several hour stop
in Victoria, BC, the night before they return to Seattle. Victoria,
apparently qualifies as a distant and foreign port.
Don



"Captain C" wrote in message
m...
You can board in San Francisco and disembark in Seward or Whittier because
the ship will transit through
either Vancouver or Victoria Canada, (A foreign port). The Jones Act you

are
referring to is an act to protect the
railroad system. It is antiquated, but still exists. All foreign

registered
ship, (and most are), cannot
pick up passengers and disembark passengers between two or more US ports,

so
the cruise lines
get around this by routing via a foreign port. For instance Miami to

Nassau
and back to Miami, Ft Lauderdale
and out to one of the Bahamas Keys before returning to Ft Lauderdale.
The daily casino cruises are US registered ships. (However it is very

costly
to register in the US).
Hope that helps you a bit?
Campbell





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Julie
**********
Check out my Travel Pages (non-commercial) at
http://www.dragonsholm.org/travel.htm
  #28  
Old December 13th, 2004, 08:51 PM
Juliana L Holm
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If you return to the port you start at, you need either zero ports (as in
a cruise to nowhere) or a foreign port.

If you cruise out of one US port and to a foreign port (or vice versa) as in
the one way Alaska Cruises out of Vancouver, you are fine.

If you cruise out of one US port to another US port, then and only then do you
need a distant foreign port.

Don & Lynn wrote:
This is all very confusing regarding a foreign port. Last season, both the
Diamond and Sapphire Princess ships did 7-day cruises to the inside passage,
all US ports, round trip Seattle. The only gimmick was a several hour stop
in Victoria, BC, the night before they return to Seattle. Victoria,
apparently qualifies as a distant and foreign port.
Don



"Captain C" wrote in message
m...
You can board in San Francisco and disembark in Seward or Whittier because
the ship will transit through
either Vancouver or Victoria Canada, (A foreign port). The Jones Act you

are
referring to is an act to protect the
railroad system. It is antiquated, but still exists. All foreign

registered
ship, (and most are), cannot
pick up passengers and disembark passengers between two or more US ports,

so
the cruise lines
get around this by routing via a foreign port. For instance Miami to

Nassau
and back to Miami, Ft Lauderdale
and out to one of the Bahamas Keys before returning to Ft Lauderdale.
The daily casino cruises are US registered ships. (However it is very

costly
to register in the US).
Hope that helps you a bit?
Campbell





--
Julie
**********
Check out my Travel Pages (non-commercial) at
http://www.dragonsholm.org/travel.htm
  #29  
Old December 13th, 2004, 09:07 PM
Dillon Pyron
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Thus spake "Don & Lynn" :

This is all very confusing regarding a foreign port. Last season, both the
Diamond and Sapphire Princess ships did 7-day cruises to the inside passage,
all US ports, round trip Seattle. The only gimmick was a several hour stop
in Victoria, BC, the night before they return to Seattle. Victoria,
apparently qualifies as a distant and foreign port.


Nope, they returned to the original port. Not considered
transportation between ports.

Don


"Captain C" wrote in message
om...
You can board in San Francisco and disembark in Seward or Whittier because
the ship will transit through
either Vancouver or Victoria Canada, (A foreign port). The Jones Act you

are
referring to is an act to protect the
railroad system. It is antiquated, but still exists. All foreign

registered
ship, (and most are), cannot
pick up passengers and disembark passengers between two or more US ports,

so
the cruise lines
get around this by routing via a foreign port. For instance Miami to

Nassau
and back to Miami, Ft Lauderdale
and out to one of the Bahamas Keys before returning to Ft Lauderdale.
The daily casino cruises are US registered ships. (However it is very

costly
to register in the US).
Hope that helps you a bit?
Campbell




--
dillon

"When the French are against it, you know we can't
be far wrong." - Adm. Bobbie Ray Inman
  #30  
Old December 13th, 2004, 09:07 PM
Dillon Pyron
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Thus spake "Don & Lynn" :

This is all very confusing regarding a foreign port. Last season, both the
Diamond and Sapphire Princess ships did 7-day cruises to the inside passage,
all US ports, round trip Seattle. The only gimmick was a several hour stop
in Victoria, BC, the night before they return to Seattle. Victoria,
apparently qualifies as a distant and foreign port.


Nope, they returned to the original port. Not considered
transportation between ports.

Don


"Captain C" wrote in message
om...
You can board in San Francisco and disembark in Seward or Whittier because
the ship will transit through
either Vancouver or Victoria Canada, (A foreign port). The Jones Act you

are
referring to is an act to protect the
railroad system. It is antiquated, but still exists. All foreign

registered
ship, (and most are), cannot
pick up passengers and disembark passengers between two or more US ports,

so
the cruise lines
get around this by routing via a foreign port. For instance Miami to

Nassau
and back to Miami, Ft Lauderdale
and out to one of the Bahamas Keys before returning to Ft Lauderdale.
The daily casino cruises are US registered ships. (However it is very

costly
to register in the US).
Hope that helps you a bit?
Campbell




--
dillon

"When the French are against it, you know we can't
be far wrong." - Adm. Bobbie Ray Inman
 




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