More stupidities

"a.spencer3" wrote:
"Jacques Guy" wrote:
The funniest was when some African newspaper wrote about
"pile bourkinaïque" instead of "pile voltaïque",
Bourkina-Fasso being now the name of what was "Haute-Volta"
(or Upper Volta). I look forward to when the Hebrides will
be called "Old Vanuatu"--since "Vanuatu" is the name for
the "New Hebrides".

And then we start getting York as 'Old New Amsterdam' ............ :-))

Seems to me you might as well simplify the equation and just call York
Amsterdam.

miguel
--
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In article ,
Hatunen wrote:

On 8 Sep 2004 11:11:54 -0700, (Igor Sklar)
wrote:

Jacques Guy ) wrote...
"http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,9214837%255E13762,00.html"

"He [Timothy the Turtle] was a mascot on British ship HMS Queen,
which bombarded Sebastopol in 1854 during the siege of the city
- now called Sevastopol"

Indeed, I wish all those cities stopped changing their names
(by deed poll?).

Sevastopol has never changed its name, though. It's all up to the
Latin-Greek V/B variations, as in Vavilon/Babylon, Vifleem/Bethlehem,
&c.

Rather like Habana/Havana.

May come frm how the "v" is pronounced. It somes like "B" in castillean,
"v" in espagnol.

In article ,
wrote...
In article ,
Hatunen wrote:

On 8 Sep 2004 11:11:54 -0700, (Igor Sklar)
wrote:

Jacques Guy ) wrote...
"http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,9214837%255E13762,00.html"

"He [Timothy the Turtle] was a mascot on British ship HMS Queen,
which bombarded Sebastopol in 1854 during the siege of the city
- now called Sevastopol"

Indeed, I wish all those cities stopped changing their names
(by deed poll?).

Sevastopol has never changed its name, though. It's all up to the
Latin-Greek V/B variations, as in Vavilon/Babylon, Vifleem/Bethlehem,
&c.

Rather like Habana/Havana.

May come frm how the "v" is pronounced. It somes like "B" in castillean,
"v" in espagnol.


We're off again. Annnnnd, there they go, around the first
turn...
--
dg

On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 09:13:13 -0700, Jacques Guy
wrote in
in
sci.lang,rec.travel.europe:

Harlan Messinger wrote:

It turns out I was mistaken before. I could have sworn it was like KïB, with
a diaresis over the "i", but I see now that there's a Russian-style "i"
(resembling a backwards "N") before the diaresis "i". So I guess it is
/kyiv/.

If I remember correctly the "backward N" of Ukrainian is the
"bI" of Russian (i.e. ery), and its i (which looks like an i)
is the Russian i ("backward N"), that is, it palatalizes the
preceding consonant.

The article in WWS gives [i] for the 'backwards N', [i] for
i, and [ji] for ï. Using C' for palatalized C (C any
consonant), it says that /C'i/ is written Cï, while for
/Ci/ the 'backwards N' is used.

Brian

Not the Karl Orff wrote:

In article ,
Hatunen wrote:


On 8 Sep 2004 11:11:54 -0700, (Igor Sklar)
wrote:

Sevastopol has never changed its name, though. It's all up to the
Latin-Greek V/B variations, as in Vavilon/Babylon, Vifleem/Bethlehem,
&c.

Rather like Habana/Havana.


May come frm how the "v" is pronounced. It somes like "B" in castillean,
"v" in espagnol.

What is this "espagnol"?

In alt.english.usage on 8 Sep 2004 10:42:09 -0700
(Igor Sklar) posted:

I'm disappointed that Persia changed its beautiful, evocative
name to Iran.

Do you know what Persia was called before it was called Persia?

Iran, or so I'm told.

s/ meirman If you are emailing me please
say if you are posting the same response.

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a.spencer3 wrote in message ...

"Jacques Guy" wrote in message
...
Igor Sklar wrote:

Indeed. Haven't you heard that Kiev is now "Kyiv" (try to pronounce
this), The Groyne is "La Corunna", Leghorn is "Livorno"

The funniest was when some African newspaper wrote about
"pile bourkinaïque" instead of "pile voltaïque",
Bourkina-Fasso being now the name of what was "Haute-Volta"
(or Upper Volta). I look forward to when the Hebrides will
be called "Old Vanuatu"--since "Vanuatu" is the name for
the "New Hebrides".

And then we start getting York as 'Old New Amsterdam' ............ :-))

Surreyman

:-)

Which reminds me... There is a synagogue in Prague built in 1270
(BTW the Europe's oldest remaining Jewish house of worship) called
Staronova Synagoga (Old-New Synagogue). Originally it was called "New"
or "Great" Shul to distinguish it from an older house of prayer which did
not survive. In the 16th century, when other new synagogues were established,
it became known as the Staronova Synagoga (Old-New Synagogue).

Paul JK

"meirman" wrote in message
...
In alt.english.usage on 8 Sep 2004 10:42:09 -0700
(Igor Sklar) posted:

I'm disappointed that Persia changed its beautiful, evocative
name to Iran.

Do you know what Persia was called before it was called Persia?

Iran, or so I'm told.


Well, near enough. The 'Persians' called 'Persia' 'Arian' in 'Persian'!

Surreyman

Thu, 09 Sep 2004 09:19:57 -0700: Jacques Guy :
in sci.lang:

Let's all spell it "KNIB" and see if we succeed in starting
a new trend. After all, since English speaker manage to
pronounce "gaol" as "jail", they shouldn't have any
trouble adapting to KNIB or MOCKBA, or even ...
CANKT HETEPCbYPF! (did I spell that right? My eyes go
all funny looking at it)

No, CANKT HETEPbYPF, without the s. The s comes from German or Dutch,
like the name itself of course.

--
Ruud Harmsen - http://rudhar.com

"Tim Challenger" wrote in message
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On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 11:00:09 -0600, Hatunen wrote:

"Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
"Why they changed it I can't say
"People just liked it better that way"

The Might Be Giants ?

("They ...") Their version was a cover. The Four Lads released it in 1953.