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Old April 7th, 2004, 04:37 AM
mtravelkay
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Marie Lewis wrote:

"The Reids" wrote in message
...

Following up to Marie Lewis


sorry, that's excessively impolite, please go away.

On pourrait peut-etre lui dire de nous foutre la paix?


now, what did Marie just say about showing off?



Not showing off: there is nothing particularly remarkable about speaking
French.

Millions of people do that.


Yeah, in some places they even manage to teach it to the children.
Imagine that, children speaking French.

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Old April 7th, 2004, 04:43 AM
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Chad Irby wrote:

Most of the ones who have moved here, after the NHS wouldn't cover them
for an illness or couldn't fit them in under six months... we get a
*lot* of expat Brits here, who come in search of better health care then
they could ever get at home.


So if the UK health care system is so awful, it should show up as a
lower average life expectancy of the population. The 2003 figures show
the follow life expectancies, at birth:

US - 77.14 years (Ranked 48th on the list)
UK - 78.15 years (Ranked 36th on the list)

Hmm. The data seems to indicate the reverse.

Canada, that socialist country with government-run medical care has an
average life expectancy of 79.83 years (11th best country). Again a
trend that seems to run contrary to the views of many people who swear
the US system is by far the best in the world. I wonder (rhetorically)
if all those uninsured have anything to do with it?

http://www.umsl.edu/services/govdocs.../2102rank.html
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Old April 7th, 2004, 04:43 AM
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Chad Irby wrote:

In article , "AC"
wrote:


Osama is getting exactly what he wanted,



Buried in a cave in Afghanistan? Heckuva career choice.


the US is seemingly clutching at straws. How would fingerprints have
stopped atta and his friends I wonder.



By letting us confirm that some of his folks were, indeed, on FBI watch
lists, and would let us figure out when they're getting into the country
on bogus passports.


But you have to know they are a threat. How many of the 9/11 terrorists
would have been considered a threat at the POE with this fingerprint
thing? That is the biggest problem with suicide bombers...... they tend
not to repeat their actions.

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Old April 7th, 2004, 04:45 AM
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Kid E. Poole wrote:

The Reids wrote:

Following up to Marie Lewis

Not showing off: there is nothing particularly remarkable about speaking
French.

Millions of people do that.




this is an english language ng.



Nonsense. This is a multi-lingual newsgroup. Use
whatever language you like. Or in your case, Marie,
feel free to make pedantic grammar corrections
followed by egregious grammatical errors in any
language you almost understand.


LOL........

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Old April 7th, 2004, 05:08 AM
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Eryk wrote:

Go Fig


Seems to me, that places the burden back on the UK to provide
documentation on how that money is being spent.



No, seems to me that we deal with the problem ourselves. As a point of
comparison, remember the last time British territory was invaded by a
foreign power: American response? Immediately commit troops and naval
resources in support of British action, as we did in Afghanistan and Iraq
one might expect ...but no. Actually, send Alexander Haig on a weasly
mission to get us to roll over and kiss Galtieri's ass is what happened.


Maybe we missed the importance of the Falklands to the British. But
trust me, I would have volunteered to help. At the time, we (USN) had
just left Gilbraltar and were involved with the Royal Navy in missle
exercises. I had left my FFG (guided missle frigate) to trade places
with someone on a British frigate (HMS Yamouth). I had to quickly helo
back to my ship as the news broke. As reports have it, the Yamouth
narrowly missed getting hit with an Exocet. The Destroyer wasn't so
lucky. Sorry, Eryk, but I doubt many Americans could even tell you when
the last time the British had territory invaded. What I will tell you
is that the "invasion" of the Falklands didn't kill a couple of thousand
civilians in one day. In fact, only a couple of thousand people lived
in the whole Falkland islands.

As it was, Argentina had claimed the islands in 1820. Britain occupied
them in 1833. Ownership had been disputed ever since. BTW, the US
"invaded" in 1831. The USS Lexington destroyed an Argentine settlement
on East Falkland in retalation for the arrest of the crew of three US
ships hunting seals. The British came in 1833 out of fear the US would
try to claim the islands.



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Old April 7th, 2004, 05:13 AM
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Chad Irby wrote:

James Robinson wrote:

Beyond that, how do you think the Iraqis feel about the multiple
attacks on their country by the US leaving thousands dead and raining
missiles around their homes? That would be pretty traumatic,
wouldn't it?


Overall, they're pretty good with it.

The biggest question was "what took you so long to help us?"


That's not what they most recent polls say. The Iraqis generally feel
humiliated, and are relatively ambivalent about the US invasion.
Something like 2/3 of the population feel that the US is an occupier,
rather than a liberator. Those of Arab decent have an even greater
dislike of the US invasion than those of Kurdish descent.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/w...ll_040314.html

There's nothing like a battle on home soil.


...except for 40 years of misery caused by a bunch of home-grown
*******s who killed more in a season than the war killed in a year...


That view isn't shared by everybody. Some suggest that the number of
deaths as a result of the invasion and the ensuing chaos have been
higher than under the previous regime.

http://www.news24houston.com/content...=26751&SecID=2
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Old April 7th, 2004, 05:45 AM
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James Robinson wrote:

Chad Irby wrote:

Most of the ones who have moved here, after the NHS wouldn't cover them
for an illness or couldn't fit them in under six months... we get a
*lot* of expat Brits here, who come in search of better health care then
they could ever get at home.



So if the UK health care system is so awful, it should show up as a
lower average life expectancy of the population. The 2003 figures show
the follow life expectancies, at birth:

US - 77.14 years (Ranked 48th on the list)
UK - 78.15 years (Ranked 36th on the list)

Hmm. The data seems to indicate the reverse.


Do you think life expectancy can be tied solely to health care?
What about diet, lifestyles, etc....
Look at it this way, the British are usually more sedate than Americans.

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Old April 7th, 2004, 06:09 AM
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mtravelkay wrote:

James Robinson wrote:

US - 77.14 years (Ranked 48th on the list)
UK - 78.15 years (Ranked 36th on the list)

Hmm. The data seems to indicate the reverse.


Do you think life expectancy can be tied solely to health care?
What about diet, lifestyles, etc....
Look at it this way, the British are usually more sedate than Americans.


Sedate? Wouldn't that make people fatter?

The point is that many people suggest that the US health care system is
light years ahead of the rest of the world. Technically, they are
probably right, but sociologically, things don't stand up as well.
Maybe it's good because it keeps overweight people alive.
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Old April 7th, 2004, 06:14 AM
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James Robinson wrote:

mtravelkay wrote:

James Robinson wrote:


US - 77.14 years (Ranked 48th on the list)
UK - 78.15 years (Ranked 36th on the list)

Hmm. The data seems to indicate the reverse.


Do you think life expectancy can be tied solely to health care?
What about diet, lifestyles, etc....
Look at it this way, the British are usually more sedate than Americans.



Sedate? Wouldn't that make people fatter?


It depends on calorie intake. I was referring to risks, excitement, etc.


The point is that many people suggest that the US health care system is
light years ahead of the rest of the world. Technically, they are
probably right, but sociologically, things don't stand up as well.
Maybe it's good because it keeps overweight people alive.


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Old April 7th, 2004, 06:25 AM
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Quantum Foam Guy wrote:

A very important point seems to be left out of this discussion: America is
at war with an enemy that has attacked us on our soil.


So what does that have to do with Iraq? They never attacked the US, and
there was never any evidence to link them with Al Queda.

During wartime, certain rules are established in order ensure our
security as much as possible.


Let's round up all Arabs and put them in camps in Colorado. After all,
you can never be too sure.

Once the war is over, those rules are lifted. If we didn't have
moslem psychopaths trying to kill as many of our citizens as
possible and we were still putting these security measures in
place, I would agree that we shouldn't be doing so. But that's
not the world we live in.


Ahh, that explains why I have to show my photo ID and boarding pass
three times just to get through the security line at Cleveland airport,
and why I have to show them to a TSA flunky in Houston just 20 feet
after I have passed through a computer check at Customs and Immigration
when I connect to a domestic flight. The process isn't out of control,
it's simply that a psychopath might cut into line ahead of me, and by
reading a name on a boarding pass and comparing it to the name on a
photo ID, he won't get away with it.
 




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