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  #22  
Old April 30th, 2013, 08:33 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
David Horne[_2_]
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Bill wrote:

On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:41:17 +0100, (David Horne)
wrote:

Tom P wrote:


That's not enough, I'm afraid. These sealed bags will only be accepted
from a limited number of airports outside the EEA- and exclude any in
India, as I found out...


Interesting.


I think you can find the list online. It has expanded since last year,
but doesn't include India.

I was assured by Bombay International duty free staff that their
sealed bags were acceptable at Heathrow, but we still didn't buy
any...


They were talking crap, as they did to us at Delhi. I actually
complained about this to the airport, and here's a bit of the
correspondence. (In reverse order.) Needless to say, the information was
not displayed, we checked.

D

--------
Hello Mr. Horne,

The same information is displayed on all the cash till where you make
the payment and it is also running on all LCD screens at Departures.

Regards
Support Team- Delhi Duty Free
Visit us at-
www.delhidutyfree.co.in


From: David Horne
Sent: 20 April, 2012 12:03 PM
To: Support
Subject: Delhi Duty Free complaint- T3

Hello,

None was provided by Zurich, and we had a very tight connection.
However, it's not necessary to have one for you to take the action I
suggested. Let me repeat, all EU/EAA airports will not allow any
'sealed' duty free from Indian airports if it contains liquids in
containers over 100ml. The only airports for which they will allow such
sealed bags are those from airports in the EU, Switzerland, Norway,
Croatia, Iceland, Malaysia, Singapore, the US or Canada. You can check
the wording he

http://www.swiss.com/web/en/services...ge/Pages/new_s
afety_rules.aspx

Or for another airport with flights from DEL, Frankfurt,

http://www.frankfurt-airport.com/con.../en/checkin_lu
ggage/hand_luggage/faqs1.html

So, the policy is very clear. Can you let me know if you will make this
clear to your staff, and also display notices to that effect?

Best wishes,

David

From: Support
Subject: Delhi Duty Free complaint- T3
Date: 20 April 2012 05:50:55 GMT+01:00

Hello Mr. Horne,

Firstly thank you for your valued patronage of Delhi duty Free. We have
received your mail and we regret the ordeal that you've gone through. As
a policy we always encourage our customers to check for themselves the
destination port customers allowances/rules and to ensure that their
purchases are in compliance.

However you have shared the bill receipt, we would request you to also
share the scanned copy of confiscation receipt to investigate your case
further.

Regards
Support Team: Delhi duty Free
Visit us at : www.delhidutyfree.co.in

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www.davidhorne.net (email address on website)
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world war?] No. They never learn." -Harry Patch (1898-2009)
  #23  
Old April 30th, 2013, 09:30 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
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Erilar wrote:
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:
Erilar wrote:
"JohnT" wrote:
"David Horne" wrote in message
...
Erilar wrote:

And NEVER to plan to change planes in
Oslo on a Friday afternoon! They make even transfer passengers go through
security again, and the line wound almost out the door!
That's the case for any European transfer flight I've been on...
It is also the case if you are transferring in the USA from an International flight.
perhaps oddly, I haven't done that since 1998.

Nor I, because I've not traveled anywhere since 2003 (and my last couple
of trips were non-stops within the US). Once I began to find walking
difficult, I realized I was spending most of my stay in my hotel room,
watching TV in a foreign tongue. That seemed a rather expensive way to
improve my language skills, especially when the overcrowding and
increasingly strict security measures had made the actual travel less
than enjoyable. (If I want to watch foreign-language TV, we have five
Spanish channels in Phoenix, and I could actually USE an improvement to my Spanish.)


Traveling WITH hotel when you have scenery on both sides cuts down on the
walking 8-)


True, but there are too many "sights" that require walking - museums,
zoos, etc.

  #24  
Old April 30th, 2013, 10:00 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
S Viemeister[_2_]
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On 4/30/2013 4:30 PM, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
Erilar wrote:


Traveling WITH hotel when you have scenery on both sides cuts down on the
walking 8-)


True, but there are too many "sights" that require walking - museums,
zoos, etc.

What you need, is a strong young travelling companion, and a portable
wheelchair.

  #25  
Old April 30th, 2013, 10:41 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
David Horne[_2_]
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Martin wrote:

On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:41:17 +0100, (David Horne)
wrote:

Tom P wrote:

On 04/28/2013 02:15 PM, David Horne wrote:
Martin wrote:

On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 05:55:20 +0000 (UTC), Erilar
wrote:

David Horne wrote:
Erilar wrote:

And NEVER to plan to change planes in
Oslo on a Friday afternoon! They make even transfer passengers go
through security again, and the line wound almost out the door!

That's the case for any European transfer flight I've been on...

D

not in copenhagen the last two times I transferred there

It's to stop passengesr arriving from countries with inferior security
smuggling explosives and weapons into the airport.

And to **** off many buying duty free (liquids) at airports outside
Europe...

D

That is most certainly true. If you have a connecting onward flight,
you have to make sure when you buy duty free liquids that the vendor
seals them in a tamper-free bag good enough to satisfy security checks.


That's not enough, I'm afraid. These sealed bags will only be accepted
from a limited number of airports outside the EEA- and exclude any in
India, as I found out...

There is a way round it - you go out of the security area at the
transfer airport, and check the stuff in for the second leg.


Rarely practical though...


I always did it when I flew from Toulouse to Schiphol via Gatwick.


I would challenge you to do it on most of the connections I've had
recently, which are not only admirably short but usually limit me to one
check-in bag...

A 10 quid bottle of Bombay Sapphire isn't worth it.

D

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world war?] No. They never learn." -Harry Patch (1898-2009)
  #26  
Old May 1st, 2013, 11:56 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Erilar
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S Viemeister wrote:
On 4/30/2013 4:30 PM, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
Erilar wrote:


Traveling WITH hotel when you have scenery on both sides cuts down on the
walking 8-)


True, but there are too many "sights" that require walking - museums,
zoos, etc.

What you need, is a strong young travelling companion, and a portable wheelchair.


A private driver can be nice, too.


--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad
  #27  
Old May 1st, 2013, 11:56 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Erilar
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:
Erilar wrote:
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:
Erilar wrote:
"JohnT" wrote:
"David Horne" wrote in message
...
Erilar wrote:

And NEVER to plan to change planes in
Oslo on a Friday afternoon! They make even transfer passengers go through
security again, and the line wound almost out the door!
That's the case for any European transfer flight I've been on...
It is also the case if you are transferring in the USA from an International flight.
perhaps oddly, I haven't done that since 1998.
Nor I, because I've not traveled anywhere since 2003 (and my last couple
of trips were non-stops within the US). Once I began to find walking
difficult, I realized I was spending most of my stay in my hotel room,
watching TV in a foreign tongue. That seemed a rather expensive way to
improve my language skills, especially when the overcrowding and
increasingly strict security measures had made the actual travel less
than enjoyable. (If I want to watch foreign-language TV, we have five
Spanish channels in Phoenix, and I could actually USE an improvement to my Spanish.)
Traveling WITH hotel when you have scenery on both sides cuts down on the

walking 8-)


True, but there are too many "sights" that require walking - museums, zoos, etc.


This is a major reason I don't look at the Viking river cruises. They
require payment for all excursions in advance and after several e-mail
exchanges I got them pinned down to admit these are hiking groups. European
cruise lines let you book individual excusions, which lets be stick to the
ones with wheels. I can walk well enough to enjoy a museum, but getting
there can be too much.
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  #28  
Old May 1st, 2013, 11:56 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Erilar
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Tom P wrote:
On 04/28/2013 02:15 PM, David Horne wrote:
Martin wrote:

On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 05:55:20 +0000 (UTC), Erilar
wrote:

David Horne wrote:
Erilar wrote:

And NEVER to plan to change planes in
Oslo on a Friday afternoon! They make even transfer passengers go through
security again, and the line wound almost out the door!

That's the case for any European transfer flight I've been on...

D

not in copenhagen the last two times I transferred there

It's to stop passengesr arriving from countries with inferior security
smuggling explosives and weapons into the airport.


And to **** off many buying duty free (liquids) at airports outside
Europe...

D

That is most certainly true. If you have a connecting onward flight, you
have to make sure when you buy duty free liquids that the vendor seals
them in a tamper-free bag good enough to satisfy security checks.
There is a way round it - you go out of the security area at the
transfer airport, and check the stuff in for the second leg.


Second bag? What's that? 8-). However, I just don't buy duty- free stuff
anyway. Just more to lug around,
--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad
  #29  
Old May 1st, 2013, 09:52 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
tim......
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"Erilar" wrote in message
...
Tom P wrote:
On 04/28/2013 02:15 PM, David Horne wrote:
Martin wrote:

On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 05:55:20 +0000 (UTC), Erilar
wrote:

David Horne wrote:
Erilar wrote:

And NEVER to plan to change planes in
Oslo on a Friday afternoon! They make even transfer passengers go
through
security again, and the line wound almost out the door!

That's the case for any European transfer flight I've been on...

D

not in copenhagen the last two times I transferred there

It's to stop passengesr arriving from countries with inferior security
smuggling explosives and weapons into the airport.

And to **** off many buying duty free (liquids) at airports outside
Europe...

D

That is most certainly true. If you have a connecting onward flight, you
have to make sure when you buy duty free liquids that the vendor seals
them in a tamper-free bag good enough to satisfy security checks.
There is a way round it - you go out of the security area at the
transfer airport, and check the stuff in for the second leg.


Second bag? What's that? 8-). However, I just don't buy duty- free stuff
anyway. Just more to lug around,


I agree.

when looked at against the total costs the savings are tiny.

Unless you are driving over a local border to bring back crates of
beer/wine, all that you can save on bringing back the odd bottle of spirits
is 10 dollars or so. You can save five times that not checking an extra bag



  #30  
Old May 1st, 2013, 10:31 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Dave Smith
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On 30/04/2013 8:32 AM, Tom P wrote:

It's to stop passengesr arriving from countries with inferior security
smuggling explosives and weapons into the airport.


And to **** off many buying duty free (liquids) at airports outside
Europe...

D

That is most certainly true. If you have a connecting onward flight,
you have to make sure when you buy duty free liquids that the vendor
seals them in a tamper-free bag good enough to satisfy security checks.
There is a way round it - you go out of the security area at the
transfer airport, and check the stuff in for the second leg.




I don't know about that. Personally I don't understand why you can't
take on duty free goods unless they are from the airport where you are
boarding, but I suppose someone can make a good argument concerning why
it is okay to take a duty free flammable liquid from that airport's duty
free store but not from one at another airport.

The last time I was in Europe was four years ago. I was flying from
Copenhagen to Toronto with a connection at Schipol. I guess I got
confused at Schipol because I ended up walking right out the front door.
We had to go through security to board for the Toronto leg of the journey.

 




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