Milan to Bucharest by train?

Recommendations for which TRAIN route to take fro Milano to Bucuresti ?

Late June or early July. Probably stop for a day somewhere between.

Don't care how fast but don't want to spend a lot. I did look at the
fastest route on one site, and it required taking a bus from one train
station to another. Didn't like that.

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 18:43:47 -0600, Happy.Hobo wrote:

Recommendations for which TRAIN route to take fro Milano to Bucuresti ?

http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en
Several legs, either by Insbruck (34 hours) or Wien (30 hours).
Only 2hours 15mn and 20€ direct flight on Ryanair.

Late June or early July. Probably stop for a day somewhere between.

Don't care how fast but don't want to spend a lot. I did look at the
fastest route on one site, and it required taking a bus from one train
station to another. Didn't like that.

"Paul Aubrin" wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 18:43:47 -0600, Happy.Hobo wrote:

Recommendations for which TRAIN route to take fro Milano to Bucuresti ?

http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en
Several legs, either by Insbruck (34 hours) or Wien (30 hours).

I think he's already looked that up (his reference to the bus connection is
a clue).

The results using the travel planner are designed to provide for the fastest
journeys between the two points.

Unfortunately (for this route) it brings up lots of options with multiple
changes.

The simplest option is two overnight through trains, Milano - Wien one night
and Wien - Bucuresti a following night. Both are available using "global
pricing" (which means a single fare including on board accommodation),
though I suspect that won't meet the OP's request for the cheapest solution

Only 2hours 15mn and 20€ direct flight on Ryanair.

or E299 if all the 20 Euro seats are sold for the day you want to travel

I wonder if there's a bus?

tim

On 11-29-2015 13:25, tim..... wrote:
The simplest option is two overnight through trains, Milano - Wien one
night and Wien - Bucuresti a following night. Both are available using
"global pricing" (which means a single fare including on board
accommodation), though I suspect that won't meet the OP's request for
the cheapest solution

Sorry I wasn't clear. Indeed, I don't want to spend a LOT but there are
other factors than price. Even the bus is not out of the question, nor
the flight. But the train, with a tourist stop along the way is an
experience that appeals to me. Night train would save money, but
eyeballing the country along the way is worth the cost of a night's
lodging (under €25 is pretty easy to find).

So, I was really fishing for suggestions from folks familiar with
different routes and locations.

I'm actually starting in Spain, but I couldn't find a site that was able
to compute the entire route. So I picked Milan for my first stop.

On 11-29-2015 14:38, Happy.Hobo wrote:
On 11-29-2015 13:25, tim..... wrote:
The simplest option is two overnight through trains, Milano - Wien one
night and Wien - Bucuresti a following night. Both are available using
"global pricing" (which means a single fare including on board
accommodation), though I suspect that won't meet the OP's request for
the cheapest solution

Sorry I wasn't clear. Indeed, I don't want to spend a LOT but there are
other factors than price. Even the bus is not out of the question, nor
the flight. But the train, with a tourist stop along the way is an
experience that appeals to me. Night train would save money, but
eyeballing the country along the way is worth the cost of a night's
lodging (under €25 is pretty easy to find).

Tentatively, Barcelona to Milan, Milan to Budapest, Budapest to Sibiu or
Bucharest.

Where do I look?

Renfe.es doesn't recognize Milan.

bahn.de doesn't have prices or make sales

eurail won't sell trips, only passes for €510

raileurope.com suggests US$ 125 BCN-MIL, US$118 BUD-BUH, can't find a
Milan to Budapest route

RyanAir will charge me up the nose for a few kilos overweight, and a
hundred euro if their online form is unable to accept the name on my
passport.

etc.

(62 years old, if that makes any difference)

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 18:43:29 -0600, Happy.Hobo wrote:

On 11-29-2015 14:38, Happy.Hobo wrote:
On 11-29-2015 13:25, tim..... wrote:
The simplest option is two overnight through trains, Milano - Wien one
night and Wien - Bucuresti a following night. Both are available
using "global pricing" (which means a single fare including on board
accommodation), though I suspect that won't meet the OP's request for
the cheapest solution

Sorry I wasn't clear. Indeed, I don't want to spend a LOT but there
are other factors than price. Even the bus is not out of the question,
nor the flight. But the train, with a tourist stop along the way is an
experience that appeals to me. Night train would save money, but
eyeballing the country along the way is worth the cost of a night's
lodging (under €25 is pretty easy to find).

Tentatively, Barcelona to Milan, Milan to Budapest, Budapest to Sibiu or
Bucharest.

Where do I look?

Renfe.es doesn't recognize Milan.

bahn.de doesn't have prices or make sales

eurail won't sell trips, only passes for €510

raileurope.com suggests US$ 125 BCN-MIL, US$118 BUD-BUH, can't find a
Milan to Budapest route

RyanAir will charge me up the nose for a few kilos overweight, and a
hundred euro if their online form is unable to accept the name on my
passport.

etc.

(62 years old, if that makes any difference)

Eurolines
http://www.eurolines.it/Home/59-1-en.html
Option: search trip solution 80 to 100 EUR.
Trip : MILANO - BUCAREST 14/12/2015 16/12/2015 18/12/2015
Departure : 13:30 - Arrival : 22:30
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https://boa.busbookingline.it/web/eu...ation/booking/
bestPrice.php

The simplest option is two overnight through trains, Milano - Wien one
night and Wien - Bucuresti a following night. Both are available using
"global pricing" (which means a single fare including on board
accommodation), though I suspect that won't meet the OP's request for
the cheapest solution

Sorry I wasn't clear. Indeed, I don't want to spend a LOT but there are
other factors than price. Even the bus is not out of the question, nor
the flight. But the train, with a tourist stop along the way is an
experience that appeals to me. Night train would save money, but
eyeballing the country along the way is worth the cost of a night's
lodging (under €25 is pretty easy to find).

I've done the sleeper train from Budapest most of the way to
Bucuresti - problem is, it crosses the border at about 2am and
it'll only just be getting light when you hit the interesting
bits of Transylvania. I'm not sure what alternatives there are.

I have been from Budapest to Rijeka by train - easy to get to
Rijeka from Venice. That takes you through some attractive
countryside in Slovenia.

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On 11-30-2015 07:34, Jack Campin wrote:
Sorry I wasn't clear. Indeed, I don't want to spend a LOT but there are
other factors than price. Even the bus is not out of the question, nor
the flight. But the train, with a tourist stop along the way is an
experience that appeals to me. Night train would save money, but
eyeballing the country along the way is worth the cost of a night's
lodging (under €25 is pretty easy to find).
I've done the sleeper train from Budapest most of the way to
Bucuresti - problem is, it crosses the border at about 2am and
it'll only just be getting light when you hit the interesting
bits of Transylvania. I'm not sure what alternatives there are.

Ricksteves.com suggests taking a night train not only to save on lodging
but because you compensate for missing rural scenery by having more
daylight hours at your destination. :-) I'm considering it.

"Happy.Hobo" wrote in message
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On 11-29-2015 13:25, tim..... wrote:
The simplest option is two overnight through trains, Milano - Wien one
night and Wien - Bucuresti a following night. Both are available using
"global pricing" (which means a single fare including on board
accommodation), though I suspect that won't meet the OP's request for
the cheapest solution

Sorry I wasn't clear. Indeed, I don't want to spend a LOT but there are
other factors than price. Even the bus is not out of the question, nor
the flight. But the train, with a tourist stop along the way is an
experience that appeals to me. Night train would save money, but
eyeballing the country along the way is worth the cost of a night's
lodging (under €25 is pretty easy to find).

The point about the overnight trains is that they were the only options
without multiple changes, some of them in rather strange places (in railway
terms)

Replacing the Milano-Wien leg with a sensible day option is possible

but the Second leg is not, you need a second overnight stop at Arad (on the
that Hungarian/Romanian border) and even then you need multiple connections
per leg.

There simply aren't any through day trains nowadays. The Pannonia express
is no more!

tim

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015, tim..... wrote:

Replacing the Milano-Wien leg with a sensible day option is possible

If you want to avoid the OBB EC bus replacements,
there are a couple of FUC day trains from Udine to Villach (707 and
1717) where you can connect to the Austrian network. And apparently
there is also a true EC train (EC 30) from Venice to Udine (1742) and
Vienna (2327) but it will travel in the dark.