French fast food caters to Muslims

Have you ever climbed a water tower with a bucket of paint to defend
your sister's honor?

....and...

It's a bit softer than the surrounding paper in Dutch hostels... g

Tim K

"Martin" wrote in message
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but not old Mixi. Man in pink shorts
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Roll on the drums
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Martin writes:

The ban on traditional dress is a type of discrimination.

The ban is on religious dress, not traditional dress. There is
nothing traditional about veils on the head or black garments that
completely conceal the body, anyway.

Such dress is an Islamic tradition. Or are religious
groups unable to have traditions in Mixi Bizarro World?

"Martin" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 17:11:39 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:
A Muslim woman who shows up for an interview
dressed from head to toe in black with her eyes concealed and refuses
to speak to a male interviewer except through the intermediary of her
brother is far less likely to get a job than a Muslim woman who looks
and behaves like any other French woman.

The same applies to guys, who refuse to supply basic information and
wear shorts and hiking boots to work.

Thousands had the same thought, but you were the
first to post it!

Employers tend to assume that anyone devout enough to wear special
clothing linked to their religion is fanatical enough to cause
friction in the workplace, and they are usually right.

It's odd that you can't see why you have a problem in finding work.
--
Martin

Iceman wrote:
"McDonalds serves all-beef in their restaurants, I don`t think there is
any pork served. Halal may be the problem, however. Jews have the
same problem of they are observant."

Strictly observant Jews can't have McDonald's hamburgers for two
reasons: (1) they cook pork and dairy products on the same grills as
beef, and (2) the cows that the beef comes from are not slaughtered by
the kosher procedure.

its all ****e in a bun so whats the difference ?

On 10/09/05 12:00, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

Odd that nobody has banned nuns from dressing the way they do in
Catholic schools.

Many don¹t dress "that way" anymore, the dress style of nuns in our
Catholic neighborhood varies.

On 10/09/05 12:19, in article
1h2o7be.7pqk771eyvrbmN%this_address_is_for_spam@ya hoo.com, "chancellor of
the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy"
wrote:

I thought that Catholic schools were mostly private in France? They
wouldn't have been affected by the ban, just as a private muslim school
wouldn't be. That said, hardly any of the latter, though that might
change as a result of the ban- which you could argue is
counter-productive- i.e. when the aim is meant to be better integration.


The French government will subsidize private religious school if they
teach the state approved curriculum. Even non-religious private schools.
Our daughter attended on and the tuition was reasonable since the
teacher's salaries were paid by the state.

Few if any Moslem educational institutions will offer the state approved
curriculum. As I understand it that are some critical issues. Learning
to swim was at one time (and maybe still) a requirement, but the wearing
of bathing suits is a problem with some Moslems, committed to modest dress.
Sex education in biology class is another issue.

Those Catholic and Jewish private schools which have no problem with
the approved government curriculum have no problem.

Some Koranic schools want only to teach that. Teaching whatever is not
forbidden if the students at least get the standard curriculum. After
all the path to post success in France passes by the BAC exam, they
have to prepare for THAT. Knowing the Bible, the Koran or whatever
is incidental since no the BAC does not test this knowledge.

On 10/09/05 14:01, in article ,
"Magda" wrote:

... However, many Jews and Moslem are not that observant. But they will not
... eat pork.

That's good news - more is left for the rest of us. )



Pork as such is a very uninteresting meat, unless used in Chinese cuisine.

Ham is another thing, it is varied and pretty attractive. One Moslem student
I had love it but gave it up for Ramadan. Along with beer.

And a Jewish NY friend jokes about Kosher ham.

But I could not eat another pork chop and not cry about it. Lamb is better
tasting.

On 10/09/05 15:38, in article
, "Iceman"
wrote:

This is just as much the fault of Muslims in France as anyone else.

They are heavily discriminated against.

To tell a story:

Somebody we know, who is a Black, French but his parents are from Ghana.
But he is Moslem and has an Arab sounding name.

He completed a degree in nuclear engineering and put out job
CVs. No response, He finally started calling and one call resulted
in a job interview and his being hired. The interviewer told
him that they thought he was Arab so did not contact him. Being Black
was not a problem.

Those French who are ethnically Arab may have to hide it. Speaking good
French is one road out of the trap. If you are Arab, the first thing
to do is give you newborn French names.

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 21:33:52 +0200, Earl Evleth
wrote:

On 10/09/05 12:00, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

Odd that nobody has banned nuns from dressing the way they do in
Catholic schools.

Many don¹t dress "that way" anymore, the dress style of nuns in our
Catholic neighborhood varies.

:-)

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Keith, Bristol, UK

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On 10/09/05 16:51, in article
t, "Timothy Kroesen"
wrote:

I stayed in a hostel in Barbes and found the neighborhood vibrant and
interesting...marlboromarlboromarlboro... A short walk to
Montmartre/Sacre Cour through the Pigale
too...comeseemyshowmistercomeseemyshowmister...

Perhaps Earl is on too short a chain...g

I have no problem with Arabs, I have had a number of Arab students, the best
student was Syrian.

We knew a French woman who lived in the Goutte d'Or, no problems. She lived
in a apartment complex which looked like it was out of Algers.

I ran an exchange program with Algeria, and have visited there. Also with
Cuba. I will say the Cubans are better organized but I prefer the food
in Algeria! But all the students I got from both countries were "serious",
hard working etc. I have no culture generalizations to make except
favorable.

Our prison visiting experiences (10 years now) are a bit different. There
the French Arabs are split into two groups, the "barbues", the religious
and serious about it. They are a minority. The rest are the "gremlins"
and trouble. If either group went into terrorism to any extent, France
is in trouble. I don't think they will.