French fast food caters to Muslims

From: Magda
Organization: Noos
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Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:52:47 +0200
Subject: French fast food caters to Muslims

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 07:35:10 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Earl Evleth

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... On 11/09/05 0:15, in article ,
... "Magda" wrote:
...
... ... But I could not eat another pork chop and not cry about it. Lamb is
better
... ... tasting.
...
... No problem, Earl, we'll never fight over chops. Keep your lamb and I'll
... destroy all the
... pork chops on Earth - singlehandedly!
...
...
... The main advantage of pork in France is that it is much cheaper than lamb

Not to mention that half of it does not "disappear" once cooked...

... But wife does marinate chops in olive oil with garlic, which gives the
stuff
... some character.

We don't shop in the same places... Mine only require salt!

Earl has a prejudice against pork that dates from childhood. His mother was
from the Midwest, and she used to cook pork chops in milk. I know what he's
talking about, my mother, also from the Midwest, did likewise and they were
vile. I don't feel as strongly about pork as he does, probably because I
was able to cook myself, and could make pork taste decent. Earl has never
learned to cook.

Donna Evleth

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:23:57 +0200, Donna Evleth
wrote:



From: "No Spam"
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Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 00:26:42 GMT
Subject: French fast food caters to Muslims

Why the **** do you care? People should be
able to give their children the names that
they want. You're talking like a ****ing
National Socialist.

Unfortunately parents do not always exercise common sense, and it's the kids
who pay for the rotten names wished on them by these thoughtless sires.

Didn't Frank Zappa call his daughter Moon Unit?

Then there's the Billy Connolly story about the Glaswegian parents who
called their son Ghengis McCann.


Keith, Bristol, UK

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Mxsmanic wrote:
Some immigrants (notably immigrants from the Far East, in my
experience) tend to encourage their offspring to learn the national
language of their new home, and may even forbid them to speak the
language of the "old country."

I know you're speaking of France but that used to, and perhaps still
does, happen in the USA. It's a great sadness that children do not know
the tongue of their parents.

A native American of Arab ancestry (from Lebanon) I know speaks only
Arabic to his children, their mother speaks only English (her only
language). I applaud the natural bilinguality of those children. Would
that more parents did the same.

In my youth, throngs of Chinese students converged at the cable car
turntable on Powell at Market to get to Chinese school by 16:00. They
were there two hours each school day and "all day" Saturdays. They
learned Cantonese, Mandarin, and the history and cultures of China.
Those born here spoke English no differently from the rest of us.

Most of their children are not so advantaged; most of their
grandchildren are about as Chinese as Colin Powell.
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Martin writes:

No not only, many who emigrated were multilingual.

No, not now. The Vietnamese have not spoken French since around 1975.
Many of today's Vietnamese were born after that date and speak no
French at all. If they come to France, however, they learn French
very quickly, since they know that they will get nowhere by speaking
only Vietnamese.

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Earl Evleth writes:

For religious reasons.

Religious names are linked to religions, not ethnicity.

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Keith Anderson writes:

Didn't Frank Zappa call his daughter Moon Unit?

Yes, although she usually just goes by Moon, I believe.

Then there's the Billy Connolly story about the Glaswegian parents who
called their son Ghengis McCann.

Such abuses are legion, unfortunately.

The goal of the French law was to prevent these abuses. Children are
not the property of their parents, and parents should not have
unlimited freedom to give them horrific names that will haunt them and
traumatise them for the rest of their lives.

I think the best philosophy is to choose a name that is traditional
and free of bizarre connotations, but is not too common. It seems
that every woman between the ages of 19 and 23 in France today is
named Aurélie or Élodie, which is an example of following fashion a
little too slavishly.

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Martin wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:17:06 +0100,
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
offy) wrote:

Donna Evleth wrote:

From: Martin
Organization: ---------------------
Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 02:17:10 +0200
Subject: French fast food caters to Muslims

They don't have bacon butties in France.
--
Martin

What is a bacon buttie? I have never heard of this.

Bacon sandwich.

http://www.jamesmartinchef.co.uk/sho...m_bacon_buttie

I can hear the laughter in the transport cafe when they read

"4 slices of bloomer bread
or pain de campagne"

It's a bit like kettle chips with cracked sea salt and balsamic vinegar-
innit!

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Gregory Morrow
gregorymorrowEMERGENCYCANCELLATIONARCHIMEDES@eart hlink.net wrote:

Earl Evleth wrote:

Ms. Karboia is Muslim and is visiting the brand-new fast-food restaurant
Beurger King Muslim (BKM) in Clichy-sous-Bois, a suburb east of Paris.


An excellent place to avoid.

That's the area where I teach (my high schol is in Livry Gargan, two
miles north of Clichy-sous-Bois).

Clichy-sous-Bois is a tougher place than Livry, but in any case, nor of
the two are of any cultural or touristic interest!
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On 11/09/05 12:50, in article ,
"Magda" wrote:

Pork chops in milk... Never in my worst nightmares I would have imagined that.
Poor
piggies - and poor Earl...

`

As I said once, mid-west cuisine is based on curdled milk. My mother
often committed gastronomic crimes against humanity. I the victim.

I am a gastronomic refugee from the mid-west.

Icono Clast writes:

I know you're speaking of France but that used to, and perhaps still
does, happen in the USA. It's a great sadness that children do not know
the tongue of their parents.

Only for the parents. It's not sad at all for the children.

One thing that parents never seem to understand is that just because
_they_ think that the old ways should be preserved doesn't mean that
their children will feel the same. Furthermore, there's nothing about
the old ways that makes them special, despite the attachment parents
have to them. Children are clean slates: for them, there are no "old
ways," and they don't miss the old ways, and they do not suffer if
they are not exposed to the old ways. For them, the "new ways" are
the only important ones, and that is as it should be (and it is
inevitable).

Of course, once children grow up, they develop the same misconception,
and often try to impose the ways they grew up with on their own
children.

A native American of Arab ancestry (from Lebanon) I know speaks only
Arabic to his children, their mother speaks only English (her only
language). I applaud the natural bilinguality of those children. Would
that more parents did the same.

What's the value in it?

In my youth, throngs of Chinese students converged at the cable car
turntable on Powell at Market to get to Chinese school by 16:00. They
were there two hours each school day and "all day" Saturdays. They
learned Cantonese, Mandarin, and the history and cultures of China.
Those born here spoke English no differently from the rest of us.

So?

Most of their children are not so advantaged; most of their
grandchildren are about as Chinese as Colin Powell.

So?

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