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On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:31:37 -0000, "Miss L. Toe"
wrote: But the penniles (and multimillionaire) terriorists seem to have given up on the airline industry (for now). and on what do you base that? The fact they haven't succeeded in penetrating airport security for a short while or the assumption that as they have attacked other targets they must have remove air travel from their list. Neither proves they have given up. -- Lansbury |
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"Lansbury" wrote in message ... On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:31:37 -0000, "Miss L. Toe" wrote: But the penniles (and multimillionaire) terriorists seem to have given up on the airline industry (for now). and on what do you base that? The fact they haven't succeeded in penetrating airport security for a short while or the assumption that as they have attacked other targets they must have remove air travel from their list. Neither proves they have given up. I did say 'seem' and I did say 'for now' I just think they see other targets as easier. Which is no reason to let up on air industry security. |
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Miss L. Toe wrote:
Thats the way it *should* work, (and always has for me in the USA), but having tested Ryanair several times, they always demand the booking reference number (its OK if its written on a scruffy yellow sticky) - next time I'll try memorising it and see if thats OK. But MRU immigration and CDG (T2) passport exit control seem to want the printed itenary. Every time I fly from East Midlands with bmibaby, I have the reference written down to read to them, but they stop me just as I'm giving it to them and ask for my surname. Sods law the first time I don't bring it they'll ask for it! Cheers, Steve M |
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In message , mtravelkay
writes You can't drive a train into a packed skyscraper or packed stadium. The twin towers had a train station in the basement. Closer to home, St James's Park is underneath London Underground HQ (which when built was apparently the tallest office building in London) and the DLR goes through a building at Canary Wharf. Strangely enough, the Victoria Line has a kink in it, so that it doesn't go under Buckingham Palace. -- Roland Perry |
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Passport control before Checkin
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:08:17 -0000, "resenär"
wrote: "Martin WY" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:03:12 -0000, "Miss L. Toe" wrote: "Hilary" wrote in message ... It also said on the passport/id booth that you needed to show your ID and ticket or e-ticket Itenerary - does this mean you can't get away with just carrying the booking reference number ? (Ok I know its a good idea to carry printouts, but what if you lose them). Many carriers are now requiring you to carry the e-ticket itinerary. I have been told that in some airports you need to show the itinerary to get through security. So does this mean that the e-ticket move is nothing more than a move away from relatively difficult to forge 'tickets' to easy to forge 'tickets' ? Doesnt it all come down to what the airline has in its computer at check-in, irrelevant of what bit of paper with numbers on it that a person might have in their mits? It should, and has for me. I recently booked a KLM e-ticket HUY-ARN at 9pm Sunday to travel 10:30am Monday, and printed the e-mail just for my own reference. They only wanted to see my passport to check in, brought up my itinerary by name. Res As said... whats in their computers. |
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Regarding the terrorist thing. The train bombings killed 200, the planes
about 3000. You can't drive a train into a packed skyscraper or packed stadium. Depends on the train stations. There have been incidents of runaway trains breaking through stations that are dead ends and going throgh not onlt the station itself, but also breaking through the other side and going onto the street. There have also been incidents of trains (mostly freight) going too fast and derailing into cities. One such indicent in the arly 1980s necessitated the evacuation of a large part of toronto (Missisauga) after such a train derailed and dangerous gases got out along with fires. (note that those were not terrorist issues, but should a terrorist gain control of a train, it could do a lot of damage). |
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Passport control before Checkin
Very strange. Yesterday I took an AF flight from CDG T2 ot the US and
the checkin was prior to the passport control. You first entered the terminal, found the appropriate checkin area 14 for my flight and then the correct line in that area. After checking in we went thru the passport control and were then released to the gate/duty free area. Perhaps they are doing something weird for EU travel? FFM Miss L. Toe wrote: I went through CDG T2 yesterday and couldn't find the checkin desks !! It turned out they were AFTER passport control. I have been to a few airports where my ticket was checked before I had access to the building, but none where my ID was also checked. Is this unique ? It also said on the passport/id booth that you needed to show your ID and ticket or e-ticket Itenerary - does this mean you can't get away with just carrying the booking reference number ? (Ok I know its a good idea to carry printouts, but what if you lose them). |
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At CDG they hand checked some of the luggage before the checkin. It was
a part of the queue process. FFM Air wrote: The message from "PTRAVEL" contains these words: In Barcelona a couple of months ago, you needed to show a passport to get to check-in for American flag carriers, but actual passport control was after check in. I wonder if this is a new trend? I recall doing this at LGW a few times back in the early 90's [I think it was then]. Luggage was also scanned and had a "security passed" label stuck on it, before one was permitted to join the check-in queue. |
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Miss L. Toe wrote:
"Roland Perry" wrote in message ... In message , Martin WY writes So does this mean that the e-ticket move is nothing more than a move away from relatively difficult to forge 'tickets' to easy to forge 'tickets' Doesnt it all come down to what the airline has in its computer at check-in, irrelevant of what bit of paper with numbers on it that a person might have in their mits? I think you are missing the point. It's not about the airline knowing you are the genuine paid-up passenger for that seat (after all they can eject you right up to departure if it turns out you are an imposter), but stopping penniless terrorists from being able to enter parts of the airport. All they need do is buy a ticket to somewhere, and instant access! But the penniles (and multimillionaire) terriorists seem to have given up on the airline industry (for now). They may return to it once we have to take our shoes off to get on a bus, or train. Strangely enough they didn't bother with my sandals either to or from europe on this trip. FFM |
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mtravelkay wrote:
Miss L. Toe wrote: But the penniles (and multimillionaire) terriorists seem to have given up on the airline industry (for now). They may return to it once we have to take our shoes off to get on a bus, or train. Air travel is increasing. Regarding the terrorist thing. The train bombings killed 200, the planes about 3000. You can't drive a train into a packed skyscraper or packed stadium. As I remember the French managed to drive a train into a skyscraper by accident a few years ago. FFM |
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