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Longshoremen Put in Cuffs!
Hi Everyone,
I saw these 3 news' articles of the same incident and thought they might be of interest: http://tinyurl.com/7zsfw http://tinyurl.com/byndk http://tinyurl.com/a95tf If you have missed any of my news' postings, they are available on my web site. Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com |
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"Karen " wrote in message ... I wonder if our Dennis had anything to do with this? ;-) Karen Please don't mention that name. It makes me want to puke, and that is not a pretty sight. |
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I find it very interesting that the
Longshoreman's Union does not believe that it is appropriate for Carnival employees to move the luggage within the ship. Background from the Anchorage Daily News: Unlike other cruise lines, Carnival chooses not to honor a contract the ILWU has with Southeast Stevedoring, an Alaska company that provides longshoreman service to Carnival and other lines, Norman said. Last summer, when cruise ships returned to Whittier for the first time in a decade, only Carnival refused to let union workers on board, opting instead to use foreign crew members who make $1 to $1.50 an hour, as opposed to the hourly union wage of $29, he said. Cheers, John Ray Goldenberg wrote: Hi Everyone, I saw these 3 news' articles of the same incident and thought they might be of interest: http://tinyurl.com/7zsfw http://tinyurl.com/byndk http://tinyurl.com/a95tf If you have missed any of my news' postings, they are available on my web site. Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com |
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Longshoremen, the only thing their missing is a gun and mask.
Here in Los Angeles, if they show up for work, they automaticly are paid for 4 hours work. Even if they are told to go home one minute later. Do 4, get paid for 6. Do 6 guaranteed 8. The last strike had to do with using 1980's technology in keeping track of containers coming off the ships. Union would not lose any workers, just control of what may fall off the back of the truck. How many weeks did they stike on this. Witnessed a longshoremen drive a brand new Toyota off a ship straight into a wall, totaling it. He got out laughed and returned to the ship for another car. On our first cruise, took pictures of the longshoreman throwing bags for distance. 25 feet before landing somewhere out of view. Our hardcase American Tourister ended up with a crushed corner. |
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Am I missing something? I always thought the Longshoremen never went
on the ships.....they just transported them from the dock to the ships hold. |
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Dear Sean,
They will do whatever the contracts say the can do! Somehow the Longshoreman got the ship -owners / operators to agree to the contract at Whittier. I can understand why Carnival wants their own people to handle the luggage on the ship; they are already there, they know the ship, and most importantly they will get paid whether or not they move the luggage. At $29 an hour, I'd even consider moving my own luggage aboard and off; it would arrive when and where I do and I would know where it was. Also, I wouldn't throw it through the air! Cheers, John Sean wrote: Am I missing something? I always thought the Longshoremen never went on the ships.....they just transported them from the dock to the ships hold. |
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Please make a note. In the interest of political correctness, it is
longshorepersons, not longshoremen. Did Carnival sign a contract with the longshorepersons? If yes, then the longshorepersons union should file a federal labor complaint with the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) or sue in Federal court. If, on the other hand, Carnival did not sign a contract with the union, then the union and the longshorepersons it represents may be SOL. John |
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No it Longshoreman . Like The International Longshore and Warehouse
Union on the West Coast and the on the East Coast and Gulf Ports it The International Longshoremen's Association. wrote: Please make a note. In the interest of political correctness, it is longshorepersons, not longshoremen. Did Carnival sign a contract with the longshorepersons? If yes, then the longshorepersons union should file a federal labor complaint with the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) or sue in Federal court. If, on the other hand, Carnival did not sign a contract with the union, then the union and the longshorepersons it represents may be SOL. John |
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J Carnaghie wrote: Dear Sean, They will do whatever the contracts say the can do! Somehow the Longshoreman got the ship -owners / operators to agree to the contract at Whittier. I can understand why Carnival wants their own people to handle the luggage on the ship; they are already there, they know the ship, and most importantly they will get paid whether or not they move the luggage. At $29 an hour, I'd even consider moving my own luggage aboard and off; it would arrive when and where I do and I would know where it was. Also, I wouldn't throw it through the air! Cheers, John Sean wrote: Am I missing something? I always thought the Longshoremen never went on the ships.....they just transported them from the dock to the ships hold. Its seems they would be getting paid something anyway wether or not they continued on the ship. If it is true that they get full pay even when they don't work the full time, I don't get what they are complaining about. |
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Letting the Longshoremen aboard the ship seems like a significant security
risk to me! Good for Carnival! Mike in Ohio "Ray Goldenberg" wrote in message ... Hi Everyone, I saw these 3 news' articles of the same incident and thought they might be of interest: http://tinyurl.com/7zsfw http://tinyurl.com/byndk http://tinyurl.com/a95tf If you have missed any of my news' postings, they are available on my web site. Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com |
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