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Old May 23rd, 2010, 01:02 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.photo.digital,uk.politics.misc
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AlanG wrote:

On Sat, 22 May 2010 17:17:14 -0700 (PDT), Twibil
wrote:

On May 22, 4:19*pm, Robert Coe wrote:


Bah. The only horrific aspect to any of this is that bullfighting

is allowed in any allegedly civilized country. I feel, I guess,
some sympathy for the matador's family, but the matador himself
got no more than he richly deserved.

Gee, I hate to imagine what you think the slaughter-house employee -
who kills several hundred animals every day- "richly deserves".

(Notes for PETA members and other easily-outraged souls: 1.) The
bulls killed in bullfights are butchered and the meat is generally
given to charitable organizations such as orphanages; places that
would seldom see any meat at all otherwise. 2.) Let's say you're a
bull, shall we? Would you like a chance to take one of those
funny-looking guys in the tight suits along with you when you go,
or would you prefer to be hit between the eyes with a sledge hammer
or electrocuted without warning?)


I've seen a bullfight. The bulls are tortured and bled until they are
weakened so the guy with the cape and the swords doesn't risk all that
much. At least in a slaughterhouse the death is quick.

Ask yourself. Would you like your death to consist of being stabbed
with darts and left to bleed until someone sticks a sword into you or
have a quick relatively painless end?


Theory has it (and it is only theory), the bulls are so hyper with
rage, adrenalin and homicidal instinct it does not register the pain.
The bleeding does, however, weaken it considerably and (still enraged)
gets to the point of exhaustion, the adrenalin still acting as an
anesthetic.

MC
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 01:54 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.photo.digital,uk.politics.misc
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On Sun, 23 May 2010 09:55:12 +0100, AlanG wrote:
: On Sat, 22 May 2010 17:17:14 -0700 (PDT), Twibil
: wrote:
:
: On May 22, 4:19*pm, Robert Coe wrote:
:
:
: Bah. The only horrific aspect to any of this is that bullfighting is allowed
: in any allegedly civilized country. I feel, I guess, some sympathy for the
: matador's family, but the matador himself got no more than he richly deserved.
:
: Gee, I hate to imagine what you think the slaughter-house employee -
: who kills several hundred animals every day- "richly deserves".
:
: (Notes for PETA members and other easily-outraged souls: 1.) The bulls
: killed in bullfights are butchered and the meat is generally given to
: charitable organizations such as orphanages; places that would seldom
: see any meat at all otherwise. 2.) Let's say you're a bull, shall we?
: Would you like a chance to take one of those funny-looking guys in the
: tight suits along with you when you go, or would you prefer to be hit
: between the eyes with a sledge hammer or electrocuted without warning?)
:
: I've seen a bullfight. The bulls are tortured and bled until they are
: weakened so the guy with the cape and the swords doesn't risk all that
: much. At least in a slaughterhouse the death is quick.
:
: Ask yourself. Would you like your death to consist of being stabbed
: with darts and left to bleed until someone sticks a sword into you or
: have a quick relatively painless end?

In the one bullfight I attended, a bull got one of his horns knocked off. He
was in such pain thereafter that he just staggered around and refused to
fight. They had to bring a replacement bull into the ring.

Use of the word "fight" is a bit silly in this context anyway. The bulls I saw
acted like they'd much rather be somewhere else. They ran around to escape the
picadores, but more often in the direction of the exit than of the matador.
The matador usually had to position himself in the bull's way to get him to
run by.

Bob
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 03:42 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.photo.digital,uk.politics.misc
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On 5/23/10 6:50 AM, in article , "MC"
wrote:

GMAN wrote:

In article
,
BP killed my turtle wrote:
hardy ****in ha....excellent photo too



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1280469/Matador-escapes-deat
h
-skin-teeth-horrific-goring-Madrid-bullfight.html

Matador escapes death by the skin of his teeth after horrific goring
in Madrid bullfight
By MAIL FOREIGN SERVICE
Last updated at 6:18 PM on 22nd May 2010
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Spanish matador Julio Aparicio needed two operations after he was
horrifically gored through the throat during a bullfight in Madrid.
The half-ton bull, called Opiparo, struck after Julio Aparicio lost
his footing and stumbled while carrying out a pass with is red cape
in a packed Las Ventas bullring.
One of the animal's horns tore into his throat and punched through
the bottom of his mouth as the crowd screamed in horror at the
bullfight last night.

Impaled: Span


And we are to feel sorry for the Matador when we all know what they
do to the bulls?


I dont feel sorry for the aholes who keep building and living in
flood plains and who keep losing their houses here in the US either.


Maybe we should feel sorry for you.

MC


Don't waste your time...

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Old May 23rd, 2010, 03:52 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.photo.digital,uk.politics.misc
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On 22/05/2010 4:19 PM, Robert Coe wrote:

Bah. The only horrific aspect to any of this is that bullfighting is allowed
in any allegedly civilized country. I feel, I guess, some sympathy for the
matador's family, but the matador himself got no more than he richly deserved.

Bob


I agree, he intended to kill the bull slowly and lost. +1 for the bull.
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 03:55 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.photo.digital,uk.politics.misc
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On 22/05/2010 9:44 PM, GMAN wrote:

Maybe if your country wasnt so backass 3rd world, where all they know to do is
to FU^k 24 hours per day and pop out babies, maybe they wouldnt need so many
orphanages. Also, how many young children do you know are able to eat steak?


I ate bull meat once and it is tough and not so great tasting. Bulls are
for breeding and not eating.
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 05:26 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.photo.digital,uk.politics.misc
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On May 23, 1:55*am, AlanG wrote:


Ask yourself. Would you like your death to consist of being stabbed
with darts and left to bleed until someone sticks a sword into you or
have *a quick relatively painless end?


Idiot, I'd prefer taking the matador along with me.

And his replacement, too.
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 05:41 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.photo.digital,uk.politics.misc
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On May 23, 2:42*am, DanP wrote:


And the whole show is disgusting, people being entertained by spilling
blood.


Spoken with all the sincerity of a colonialist explaining that it's
okay to steal someone else's land and dictate every facet of his life
because you're doing it "for his own good". (The poor little savage
simply doesn't know any better.)

Your culture is not theirs, and your automatic assumption that yours
must be superior -and that you're therefore qualified to judge between
them- is amazingly arrogant.
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 06:55 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.photo.digital,uk.politics.misc
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On 23/05/2010 9:41 AM, Twibil wrote:

Spoken with all the sincerity of a colonialist explaining that it's
okay to steal someone else's land and dictate every facet of his life
because you're doing it "for his own good". (The poor little savage
simply doesn't know any better.)


Huh? The Spanish conquistadors were the most brutal colonists in the
history of man.
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 07:33 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.photo.digital,uk.politics.misc
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"Fred McKenzie" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Peter" wrote:

Reminds me of the story about a restaurant across from the bull ring.


Reminds me of another story that involves a bull.

http://denisdutton.com/smoke.htm



I am not familiar with that Carmen story.
There is a lot of bull throwing here.

--
Peter

 




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