Paris, 33°C on Monday

On 24/06/05 2:50, in article ,
"Hatunen" wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:27:53 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Hatunen writes:

But they were witnessses to the shark feedings, the dead being
unable to provide withness.

If the sharks had been truly hungry, there would be no witnesses.

You don't really know much about the Indianapolis sinking, do
you?


There are several "recent books" on this sinking. One of them is at the
American Library in Paris, which is where I found it a couple of years
ago. I seem to remember one around in pocket book size recently.

Of 1,199 only 315 were rescued. The relative numbers lost to sharks vs
injury and exposure is not known, I believe.

The biggest historical debate was over the court marshal of its Captain
Charles Mc Vay who failed to zig-zag. I think the biggest problem was
in the failure of the naval command to recognize the ship missing,
which caused the survivors to spend a lot more time in the water than
necessary. Sharks are a secondary issue, of course.

On 24/06/05 3:56, in article ,
"Mxsmanic" wrote:

I read about it long ago. What part do you think I don't know?

The important part was not the sharks!

"Hatunen" wrote in message
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:03:43 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Hatunen writes:

Tell that to the survivors of the sinking of the USS Indianapolis.

No need. There are survivors, which proves the point.

But they were witnessses to the shark feedings, the dead being
unable to provide withness.

That's a gross insult to all Europeans who are dead.



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In article ,
Mxsmanic wrote:

Earl Evleth writes:

Will be, the US is now.

We all live on the same planet.

China is going coal in a big way for power generation. They have a lot
of it too.

Traces of mercury from Chinese plants have been found in New England
(not sure how they separate it from the mercury from American coal power
plants but somehow, they did).

The Chinese plant operators will pay the hundred thousand fines now and
then rather than outfit emission control equipment which would cost some
$15 million.

The Chinese regulators said whose fault is it that they are following
the economic development model of the West.

In article ,
Earl Evleth wrote:

I think the Bay area has the highest median home prices in the country,
probably around $500,000 to $600,000, and higher in your area.

Actually, LA and even San Diego real estate as a total are worth more
than the Bay Area. We're at about 350 billion while LA is over a
trillion. San Diego is between 350 and 400 billion.

On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:47:01 -0700, poldy wrote:

In article ,
Earl Evleth wrote:

I think the Bay area has the highest median home prices in the country,
probably around $500,000 to $600,000, and higher in your area.

Actually, LA and even San Diego real estate as a total are worth more
than the Bay Area. We're at about 350 billion while LA is over a
trillion. San Diego is between 350 and 400 billion.

And that has what to do with median home prices?

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* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *

In article ,
Hatunen wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:47:01 -0700, poldy wrote:

In article ,
Earl Evleth wrote:

I think the Bay area has the highest median home prices in the country,
probably around $500,000 to $600,000, and higher in your area.

Actually, LA and even San Diego real estate as a total are worth more
than the Bay Area. We're at about 350 billion while LA is over a
trillion. San Diego is between 350 and 400 billion.

And that has what to do with median home prices?

Median is one measure of real estate value.

Total real estate value is another.

poldy writes:

Traces of mercury from Chinese plants have been found in New England
(not sure how they separate it from the mercury from American coal power
plants but somehow, they did).

It's red mercury, of course.

The Chinese regulators said whose fault is it that they are following
the economic development model of the West.

Back when the West did that, it had far fewer people than China does.
If China had the population of Iceland, it wouldn't matter.

The real long-term problem of the planet is overpopulation. All other
problems can be traced to it.

--
Transpose gmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.

On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:44:54 -0700, poldy wrote:

In article ,
Hatunen wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:47:01 -0700, poldy wrote:

In article ,
Earl Evleth wrote:

I think the Bay area has the highest median home prices in the country,
probably around $500,000 to $600,000, and higher in your area.

Actually, LA and even San Diego real estate as a total are worth more
than the Bay Area. We're at about 350 billion while LA is over a
trillion. San Diego is between 350 and 400 billion.

And that has what to do with median home prices?

Median is one measure of real estate value.

Total real estate value is another.

Well, yeah. And mean price would be another. But ...

They're really quite different things. An area could have a high
total value but have very low individual prices compared to
another area, simply by dint of being much larger. I would guess
the total value of all real estate in the Pittsburgh metro area
to be considerably higher than that of Atherton, California, but
Atherton probably has the highest median prices in the country.

Most of us only buy one house at a time, so the total value of
all real estate in area is of little use.

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On 24/06/05 23:10, in article ,
"Hatunen" wrote:

Actually, LA and even San Diego real estate as a total are worth more
than the Bay Area. We're at about 350 billion while LA is over a
trillion. San Diego is between 350 and 400 billion.

And that has what to do with median home prices?


A legit question---

This months listing indicates that theclaim that San Diego is highest
is not supported. Marin county is still champion at $820,000
and Northern California highest.


ttp://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/06/16/state/n170935D00.DTL

The median price of homes and condos sold in May in selected California
counties:

Marin County: $820,000

San Francisco County: $765,000

San Mateo County: $726,000

Santa Clara County: $628,000

Orange County: $590,000

Alameda County: $573,000

Ventura County: $569,000

Napa County: $552,000

Contra Costa County: $539,000

Sonoma County: $533,000

San Diego County: $488,000

Los Angeles County: $459,000

Solano County $429,000

Riverside County: $381,000

San Bernardino County: $308,000