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Old April 6th, 2009, 09:54 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Terry Richards[_2_]
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We are planning a trip from northern France to central/southern Italy by
motorcycle.

To cut down a bit on the road mileage, we were wondering if there were any
ferries from southern France to Italy, either direct or with one connection.
My map doesn't show any but it's 9 years old...

Thanks,

Terry.


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Old April 6th, 2009, 10:20 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Shawn The Sheep
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On Apr 6, 10:54*am, "Terry Richards" wrote:
We are planning a trip from northern France to central/southern Italy by
motorcycle.

To cut down a bit on the road mileage, we were wondering if there were any
ferries from southern France to Italy, either direct or with one connection.
My map doesn't show any but it's 9 years old...

Thanks,

Terry.


google maps show a link to civitavecchia
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Old April 6th, 2009, 12:27 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Mike Lane
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On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:54:14 +0100, Terry Richards wrote
(in article ):

We are planning a trip from northern France to central/southern Italy by
motorcycle.

To cut down a bit on the road mileage, we were wondering if there were any
ferries from southern France to Italy, either direct or with one connection.
My map doesn't show any but it's 9 years old...


The best place for ferry information and booking that I've found is he
http://www.viamare.com/
This shows only one route from France to mainland Italy which is Toulon -
Civitavecchia

--
Mike Lane
UK North Yorkshire

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Old April 6th, 2009, 03:35 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Terry Richards[_2_]
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"Mike Lane" wrote in message

The best place for ferry information and booking that I've found is he
http://www.viamare.com/
This shows only one route from France to mainland Italy which is Toulon -
Civitavecchia

--
Mike Lane
UK North Yorkshire


Thanks Mike but the operator's site (Grimaldi ferries) doesn't list that
route - I guess they've stopped it. Also, the viamare site shows the journey
time as 15 hours which is slower than I can do it on the bike. It's starting
to look like this plan is a non-starter...

T.


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Old April 6th, 2009, 03:45 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Tim C.[_5_]
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On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:35:32 +0200, Terry Richards wrote in post :
:

"Mike Lane" wrote in message

The best place for ferry information and booking that I've found is he
http://www.viamare.com/
This shows only one route from France to mainland Italy which is Toulon -
Civitavecchia

--
Mike Lane
UK North Yorkshire


Thanks Mike but the operator's site (Grimaldi ferries) doesn't list that
route - I guess they've stopped it. Also, the viamare site shows the journey
time as 15 hours which is slower than I can do it on the bike. It's starting
to look like this plan is a non-starter...

T.


For that sort of trip, ferries will always be slower than a bike.

shameless plug mode on
While you're near the Alps there are a few ideas for good rides here :
www (dot) alpineroads (dot) com. There's a forum if you have any questions.
Plus some links to other touring/biker site for that area.
shameless plug mode off

--
Tim C.
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Old April 6th, 2009, 05:16 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
tim.....
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Default Mediterranean Ferries


"Terry Richards" wrote in message
...

"Mike Lane" wrote in message

The best place for ferry information and booking that I've found is he
http://www.viamare.com/
This shows only one route from France to mainland Italy which is Toulon -
Civitavecchia

--
Mike Lane
UK North Yorkshire


Thanks Mike but the operator's site (Grimaldi ferries) doesn't list that
route - I guess they've stopped it. Also, the viamare site shows the
journey time as 15 hours which is slower than I can do it on the bike.
It's starting to look like this plan is a non-starter...


You said that you wanted to save the driving mileage. This option is never
going to save you time

tim


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Old April 7th, 2009, 08:04 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Terry Richards[_2_]
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"tim....." wrote in message
...

You said that you wanted to save the driving mileage. This option is
never going to save you time

tim



True, but it's a trade-off between time, expense and effort. This trip is in
the very early planning stage but it looks like two long days (or three
easier ones) of riding to get there and then, of course, the same to get
back. That's a big bite out of a two week holiday so I was casting around
for other ideas.

The optimum would be to teleport us and the bike to somewhere near Rome and
then we could start from there. There are, however, certain practical
difficulties

T.


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Old April 7th, 2009, 08:45 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Tom P[_6_]
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Terry Richards wrote:
"Mike Lane" wrote in message
The best place for ferry information and booking that I've found is he
http://www.viamare.com/
This shows only one route from France to mainland Italy which is Toulon -
Civitavecchia

--
Mike Lane
UK North Yorkshire


Thanks Mike but the operator's site (Grimaldi ferries) doesn't list that
route - I guess they've stopped it. Also, the viamare site shows the journey
time as 15 hours which is slower than I can do it on the bike. It's starting
to look like this plan is a non-starter...

T.


You could do the following -
- ferry France to Corsica
- ferry Corsica Bonifaccio to Sta Teresa on Sardinia
- ferry from Sardinia to Italy

I've done this once (actually the reverse). The advantage is not having
to overnight on a ferry, which is either expensive or uncomfortable,
depending whether you take a cabin. You could even skip mainland Italy
and just stay on Corsica or Sardinia, both are just as interesting for
bike fans.

T.

T.
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Old April 6th, 2009, 07:49 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Mike Lane
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On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:51:11 +0100, Martin wrote
(in article ):

On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:35:32 +0200, "Terry Richards"
wrote:


"Mike Lane" wrote in message

The best place for ferry information and booking that I've found is he
http://www.viamare.com/
This shows only one route from France to mainland Italy which is Toulon -
Civitavecchia

--
Mike Lane
UK North Yorkshire


Thanks Mike but the operator's site (Grimaldi ferries) doesn't list that
route - I guess they've stopped it. Also, the viamare site shows the
journey
time as 15 hours which is slower than I can do it on the bike. It's
starting
to look like this plan is a non-starter...


other than the fare being less than the tolls and less than a night in hotel
too.


Yes, I've come to the same conclusion i.e. that taking a ferry is often worth
it to save a long journey by car. When taking the car abroad I have the
choice of going from Hull which costs around £180, or driving to Dover where
the fare can be had for £30. However when you add the cost of an overnight
stay plus fuel and everything else, the trip from Hull seems quite
attractive.

--
Mike Lane
UK North Yorkshire

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Old April 6th, 2009, 10:38 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
tim.....
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"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:49:47 +0100, Mike Lane wrote:

On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:51:11 +0100, Martin wrote
(in article ):

On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:35:32 +0200, "Terry Richards"

wrote:


"Mike Lane" wrote in message

The best place for ferry information and booking that I've found is
he
http://www.viamare.com/
This shows only one route from France to mainland Italy which is
Toulon -
Civitavecchia

--
Mike Lane
UK North Yorkshire


Thanks Mike but the operator's site (Grimaldi ferries) doesn't list
that
route - I guess they've stopped it. Also, the viamare site shows the
journey
time as 15 hours which is slower than I can do it on the bike. It's
starting
to look like this plan is a non-starter...

other than the fare being less than the tolls and less than a night in
hotel
too.


Yes, I've come to the same conclusion i.e. that taking a ferry is often
worth
it to save a long journey by car. When taking the car abroad I have the
choice of going from Hull which costs around £180, or driving to Dover
where
the fare can be had for £30. However when you add the cost of an overnight
stay plus fuel and everything else, the trip from Hull seems quite
attractive.


We do the same calculations. )

Do you know there is a high speed catamaran ferry starting from Ramsgate
to
Boulogne and Europe's oldest ferries running from Ramsgate to Ostend.


unless it has changed recently the Ramsgate-Oostend ferry has been freight
only for at least 5 years

tim



 




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