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US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'
Surreyman wrote:
On Friday, June 6, 2014 8:45:21 AM UTC+1, Tim C. wrote: On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 11:34:26 +0200, Martin wrote in post : : The queues aren't unique to the USA. We took a charter flight from Schiphol where queues extended outside the airport building, in this case there were not enough check in staff. Trying to get through Passport control at Stansted is a pain. -- Tim C. Linz, Austria. We use smaller provincial airports wherever possible these days, such as Southampton - they often have extensive itineraries and queues are virtually non-existent! If I ever visit the UK again, I'll use anything but LHR! I hear Manchester is civilized. -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad |
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US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'
"JohnT" wrote:
"Martin" wrote in message ... On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 20:48:57 +0000 (UTC), Erilar wrote: Dan Leifker wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/tr...-humanity.html Depends on the airport, but in general I agree with this article. Not all U.S. airports are wastelands. Portland (Oregon) has one of the nicest airports I've ever visited, and San Francisco's airport is going through a very slow remodeling that may be a sign of things to come in 21st-century U.S. airports. The new Terminal 2 at San Francisco (domestic travel only, sadly) is spectacular, with lots of restaurants, work desks, shops, and seating galore. But the article is spot on with respect to passport control at U.S. airports, which approaches something from Dante's Inferno. When I fly into Frankfurt or Munich, I spend maybe 5 minutes in the Passkontrolle line. When I return to the U.S., I deplane and literally run as fast as I can to get to U.S. passport control before the lines start to mass. Thanks for link to article. I find it harder by far to get back into the US at O'Hare than into any other country Even France? I think that you and I have convinced her of the error of her ways and she is now a Francophile. I no longer have a problem with French airports, as I don't have any interest in visiting France again. -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad |
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US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'
Martin wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 10:09:54 +0100, "JohnT" wrote: "Martin" wrote in message ... On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 20:48:57 +0000 (UTC), Erilar . I find it harder by far to get back into the US at O'Hare than into any other country Even France? I think that you and I have convinced her of the error of her ways and she is now a Francophile. I convinced myself that she was deported via CdeG and declared persona non grata. No, I declared France something similar. -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad |
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US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'
On 6/6/2014 11:10 AM, Erilar wrote:
If I ever visit the UK again, I'll use anything but LHR! I hear Manchester is civilized. I find Edinburgh and Glasgow _much_ less unpleasant than Heathrow. |
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US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'
On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 15:10:27 +0000 (UTC), Erilar
wrote: Surreyman wrote: On Friday, June 6, 2014 8:45:21 AM UTC+1, Tim C. wrote: On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 11:34:26 +0200, Martin wrote in post : : The queues aren't unique to the USA. We took a charter flight from Schiphol where queues extended outside the airport building, in this case there were not enough check in staff. Trying to get through Passport control at Stansted is a pain. -- Tim C. Linz, Austria. We use smaller provincial airports wherever possible these days, such as Southampton - they often have extensive itineraries and queues are virtually non-existent! If I ever visit the UK again, I'll use anything but LHR! I hear Manchester is civilized. Heathrow is a lot better these days, especially if you fly with BA and use terminal 5... Manchester is nice, clean but busy with holiday charters. So it gets noisy and full of people. The best provincial airport we've flown from is Leeds/Bradford. BA have a Heathrow shuttle flying into there several times a day. |
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US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'
On 06/06/2014 09:56, Martin wrote:
It varies at both ends from trip to trip. In UK they are looking for and catching illegal immigrants with forged/stolen passports; and for drugs. The Dutch don't have a problem because their land borders are open to everybody, and are exporters of drugs. We've never had a problem or delays entering via Newcastle. Flying back from Amsterdam Schipol to Gatwick I remember they used a friendly sniffer dog. he just made a walk past of the line of entering passengers. Didn't cause a delay. |
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US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'
"Bill" wrote in message ... On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 15:10:27 +0000 (UTC), Erilar wrote: Surreyman wrote: On Friday, June 6, 2014 8:45:21 AM UTC+1, Tim C. wrote: On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 11:34:26 +0200, Martin wrote in post : : The queues aren't unique to the USA. We took a charter flight from Schiphol where queues extended outside the airport building, in this case there were not enough check in staff. Trying to get through Passport control at Stansted is a pain. -- Tim C. Linz, Austria. We use smaller provincial airports wherever possible these days, such as Southampton - they often have extensive itineraries and queues are virtually non-existent! If I ever visit the UK again, I'll use anything but LHR! I hear Manchester is civilized. Heathrow is a lot better these days, especially if you fly with BA and use terminal 5... Manchester is nice, clean but busy with holiday charters. So it gets noisy and full of people. The best provincial airport we've flown from is Leeds/Bradford. BA have a Heathrow shuttle flying into there several times a day. But I doubt you find many opportunities to use it as an entry point for transatlantic travel tim |
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US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'
"Martin" wrote in message ... On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 15:10:28 +0000 (UTC), Erilar wrote: "JohnT" wrote: "Martin" wrote in message ... On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 20:48:57 +0000 (UTC), Erilar wrote: Dan Leifker wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/tr...-humanity.html Depends on the airport, but in general I agree with this article. Not all U.S. airports are wastelands. Portland (Oregon) has one of the nicest airports I've ever visited, and San Francisco's airport is going through a very slow remodeling that may be a sign of things to come in 21st-century U.S. airports. The new Terminal 2 at San Francisco (domestic travel only, sadly) is spectacular, with lots of restaurants, work desks, shops, and seating galore. But the article is spot on with respect to passport control at U.S. airports, which approaches something from Dante's Inferno. When I fly into Frankfurt or Munich, I spend maybe 5 minutes in the Passkontrolle line. When I return to the U.S., I deplane and literally run as fast as I can to get to U.S. passport control before the lines start to mass. Thanks for link to article. I find it harder by far to get back into the US at O'Hare than into any other country Even France? I think that you and I have convinced her of the error of her ways and she is now a Francophile. I no longer have a problem with French airports, as I don't have any interest in visiting France again. Your loss. We failed, John. She obviously doesn't have our level of sophistication! She wasn't even convinced by my revelation a few months back that there is a McDonalds at CDG. And it has free wifi for her Mediaeval iPad. I think that really she should be categorised in the same way as Cathy and Bill. As you say, we failed. -- JohnT |
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US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'
"Martin" wrote in message ... On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 06:25:42 +0100, Mike O'Sullivan wrote: On 06/06/2014 09:56, Martin wrote: It varies at both ends from trip to trip. In UK they are looking for and catching illegal immigrants with forged/stolen passports; and for drugs. The Dutch don't have a problem because their land borders are open to everybody, and are exporters of drugs. We've never had a problem or delays entering via Newcastle. Flying back from Amsterdam Schipol to Gatwick I remember they used a friendly sniffer dog. he just made a walk past of the line of entering passengers. Didn't cause a delay. Far too friendly, how did it check that passports weren't forged? :-) I have travelled into Newcastle airport many times, connecting at Schiphol, and I know that the security at the arrival airport isn't all visible. All luggage is scanned before being placed on the delivery carousel and passport examination nowadays is quite rigorous. Passengers originating in Amsterdam tend to get more attention from the UK Border Agency than do transfer passengers. -- JohnT |
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US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'
On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 09:09:23 +0100, "tim....."
wrote: "Bill" wrote in message .. . The best provincial airport we've flown from is Leeds/Bradford. BA have a Heathrow shuttle flying into there several times a day. But I doubt you find many opportunities to use it as an entry point for transatlantic travel We come in via Heathrow. PoE into the UK is Heathrow, customs check at LBA. No problems so far. |
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