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Why the river?
Jim Davis wrote:
Let's just face it. The pilot had to make a quick decision. In this case, he made the right choice. If someone had to do the same thing next week, it may not turn out so good. Had the aircraft broken up and killed everyone upon impact with the river, you might not be so quick to state that the pilots made the right choice. We'll have to wait for the NTSB's analysis of the situation, analysis of whether the aircraft had enough energy to make it to any nearby airport or not (and if so, if there was any amrgin or if it was very close). Remember that the NTSB's role is not to fault pilots. But looking at the thought process of the crew and what information they had available at the time the decision was made, the NTSB may recommend aircraft be equipped with automatic display of distance/time estimates as soon as it becomes a glider, along with distance to nearby airports. |
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Why the river?
"John Doe" wrote in message ... Jim Davis wrote: Let's just face it. The pilot had to make a quick decision. In this case, he made the right choice. If someone had to do the same thing next week, it may not turn out so good. Had the aircraft broken up and killed everyone upon impact with the river, you might not be so quick to state that the pilots made the right choice. You didn't get what I said. I said "in this case". We'll have to wait for the NTSB's analysis of the situation, analysis of whether the aircraft had enough energy to make it to any nearby airport or not (and if so, if there was any amrgin or if it was very close). It definately will be interesting to see what NTSB's conclusion will be. Remember that the NTSB's role is not to fault pilots. But looking at the thought process of the crew and what information they had available at the time the decision was made, the NTSB may recommend aircraft be equipped with automatic display of distance/time estimates as soon as it becomes a glider, along with distance to nearby airports. |
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Why the river?
As a retired Air Canada captain, i can say that all pilots have a mental
image of a glide path based on many years of ILS approaches. A quick look at the available landing sites would easily confirm whether you would be above or below this imaginary glide path,,this being with the aircraft under power. The Captain made a decision based on this image and the fact that the aircraft was not powered. You can read about Rome all you want, but until you have actually been there you really have no concept of what it is like. |
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Why the river?
The Professor wrote: As a retired Air Canada captain, i can say that all pilots have a mental image of a glide path based on many years of ILS approaches. A quick look at the available landing sites would easily confirm whether you would be above or below this imaginary glide path,,this being with the aircraft under power. The Captain made a decision based on this image and the fact that the aircraft was not powered. You can read about Rome all you want, but until you have actually been there you really have no concept of what it is like. How much more difficult is it to picture landing at an airport(or river) that you can't see because it's behind you as opposed to one you can see out the front or side window ? |
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Why the river?
Micro wrote
How much more difficult is it to picture landing at an airport(or river) that you can't see because it's behind you as opposed to one you can see out the front or side window ? In my judgement the co-pilot, who was flying, started a turn back to the general area of departure at the first sign of trouble, while the Captain was assessing the landing opportunities. You must remember that the aircraft was probably in about a 10 degree nose up when the trouble occured. It would be impossible to see the ground from this attitude. You would have to wait until the aircraft was in level flight, or in this case in a controlled descent. At some point in time a judgement was made that the available landing strips, for the previously stated reason, were not in reach. Experience would dictate that, from 3000 feet, the departure runway would not be a viable option and would have nothing to do with whether you could see it or not. |
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