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Old May 28th, 2007, 02:42 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Default Can Ray identify this ship? (was: Voyage of the Seas (video)

Ray Goldenberg wrote:
Grand Voyager is about 24,000 GRT and Voyager of the Seas is
137,000 GRT, hence my guess that the ship is about 1/7th the size.



Ray's confusion of "size" and "mass" is noted for future reference.


-hh

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Old May 28th, 2007, 03:28 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Default Can Ray identify this ship? (was: Voyage of the Seas (video)

On May 27, 8:42 pm, -hh wrote:
Ray Goldenberg wrote:
Grand Voyager is about 24,000 GRT and Voyager of the Seas is
137,000 GRT, hence my guess that the ship is about 1/7th the size.


Ray's confusion of "size" and "mass" is noted for future reference.


The GT in listing ship sizes is not the mass or weight of the ship ...
A calculation that is generally related to the the inside volume ...
but not that simple 1 GT = 100 ft^3 in what I recall ...

SO size is right ...

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Old May 28th, 2007, 03:38 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Default Correction: Grand Voyager? (not Voyage of the Seas video)

On May 27, 8:35 pm, -hh wrote:
Charles wrote:
-hh wrote:
Who's up to finishing the identification?


Read the link below.


http://www.maritimematters.com/olympic-voyager1.html


Thanks for the link, Charles. Its always appreciated when one finds
someone who is actually being helpful.

-hh


Here's a site that has pictures of many ships ... Good to bookmark it

http://www.peterlanger.com/Specialty...hips/index.htm


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Old May 28th, 2007, 04:18 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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I consider Ray's comment more appropriate regarding capacity or mass
than length.

Nonny

-hh wrote:
Ray Goldenberg wrote:
Grand Voyager is about 24,000 GRT and Voyager of the Seas is
137,000 GRT, hence my guess that the ship is about 1/7th the size.



Ray's confusion of "size" and "mass" is noted for future reference.


-hh


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Old May 28th, 2007, 04:23 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Default Can Ray identify this ship? (was: Voyage of the Seas (video)

number6 wrote:

The GT in listing ship sizes is not the mass or weight of the ship ...


Incorrect. Tonnage is a measure of displacement.


A calculation that is generally related to the the inside volume ...
but not that simple 1 GT = 100 ft^3 in what I recall ...


Granted, there is a general association with the amount of space that
can be supporte per ton of displacement, but its merely an
association.



-hh

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Old May 28th, 2007, 04:25 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Default Can Ray identify this ship? (was: Voyage of the Seas (video)

On May 27, 11:23 pm, -hh wrote:
number6 wrote:

The GT in listing ship sizes is not the mass or weight of the ship ...


Incorrect. Tonnage is a measure of displacement.

A calculation that is generally related to the the inside volume ...
but not that simple 1 GT = 100 ft^3 in what I recall ...


Granted, there is a general association with the amount of space that
can be supporte per ton of displacement, but its merely an
association.



For further reading:


http://www.sname.org/




-hh

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Old May 28th, 2007, 04:28 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Default Can Ray identify this ship? (was: Voyage of the Seas (video)

On 27 May 2007 19:28:31 -0700, number6 wrote:

The GT in listing ship sizes is not the mass or weight of the ship ...
A calculation that is generally related to the the inside volume ...
but not that simple 1 GT = 100 ft^3 in what I recall ...

SO size is right ...


Hi Sue,

I think he is lashing out because of the whopper mistake he made in
his original posting about the name of the ship. ;+)

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Old May 28th, 2007, 04:57 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Default Correction: Grand Voyager? (not Voyage of the Seas video)

number6 wrote:

Here's a site that has pictures of many ships ... Good to bookmark it

http://www.peterlanger.com/Specialty...Cruiseships/in...


Found it.

The list suggests that he only has 26 ships in his collection and it
since he's selling stock photos, this might explain why there's only
~3% of what he claims to have viewable. Fortunately, the Grand
Voyager is one of the ships currently featured on his public page.
Would be nice to find someone who has a fully comprehensive
listing...I find that TA's only include those brands that they sell,
so they're invariably incomplete.


-hh


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Old May 28th, 2007, 05:16 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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-hh wrote:

Ray Goldenberg wrote:

Grand Voyager is about 24,000 GRT and Voyager of the Seas is
137,000 GRT, hence my guess that the ship is about 1/7th the size.




Ray's confusion of "size" and "mass" is noted for future reference.


-hh


Then again the size of a ship is usually expressed as displacement.

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Old May 28th, 2007, 12:16 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Frank F. Matthews wrote:



Then again the size of a ship is usually expressed as displacement.

military ships perhaps, but passenger vessels GRT have nothing to do
with weight of water displaced. Tehy are really measures of the volume
of area enclosed.
 




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