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Old December 31st, 2007, 11:29 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
A Human Being
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Default EU proposes CO2 fine on carmakers.........about time

On Dec 31, 11:09*pm, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:55:41 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:
A Human Being writes:


Just like the US outsourced jobs.


In both cases, it's all about money. *People are the same everywhere.


AHB and Mixi are exactly the same everywhere.



:-)

They may sound somewhat similar at times but they are two different
people.

  #182  
Old January 13th, 2008, 07:42 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Ozkan Gouru
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Default EU proposes CO2 fine on carmakers.........about time

On 12 Jan, 23:31, "Frank F. Matthews" wrote:
grusl wrote:
"Martin" wrote in message
news


On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 06:51:10 -0800 (PST), grusl

wrote:
On Dec 22, 7:43 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:


grusl writes:


No evidence is required.

Sorry Martin, in piggybacking, I just noticed the above statement.


Your [Mxsmanic's] arguments that "Economic growth is always unsustainable
over the long term" and "A society based on it ['it' being economic growth]
will eventually fail" require evidence to hold up. Otherwise they're
statements of opinion.


snip

Any growth trend that is unmodified is unsustainable in the long run.
Geometric series always get out of control. The difference lies in your
belief that the situation can be modified so that growth can continue.


http://www.theaircar.com/
  #183  
Old January 13th, 2008, 09:09 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
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Default EU proposes CO2 fine on carmakers.........about time


"Frank F. Matthews" wrote in message
...


grusl wrote:

"Martin" wrote in message
news

On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 06:51:10 -0800 (PST), grusl

wrote:


On Dec 22, 7:43 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

grusl writes:


No evidence is required.


Sorry Martin, in piggybacking, I just noticed the above statement.

Your [Mxsmanic's] arguments that "Economic growth is always unsustainable
over the long term" and "A society based on it ['it' being economic
growth] will eventually fail" require evidence to hold up. Otherwise
they're statements of opinion.


snip

Any growth trend that is unmodified is unsustainable in the long run.
Geometric series always get out of control. The difference lies in your
belief that the situation can be modified so that growth can continue.


From what I recall from a month ago, my statement applied to Mixi's refusal
to provide any evidence. No one was arguing that growth has eternal
sustainability but many countries grow very well over the long term, for
specific but variable values of long term.

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore




  #184  
Old January 14th, 2008, 07:45 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Tim C.
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Default EU proposes CO2 fine on carmakers.........about time

On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 08:34:20 +0100, Mxsmanic
wrote:

And fast breeder power.


That's one of the major causes of overpopulation.
 




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