Thai PM asks for death penalty for killers of backpacker

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:25:20 +0200, "Markku Grönroos"
wrote:


"Gavin Staples" kirjoitti
...

Thaksin is quite correct to request the ultimate punishment for the
ultimate crime.

He just doesn't pronounce court's decision and hence his opinion is like an
arse: everybody has one.



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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 08:08:57 +0700, "alex" wrote:

I assume that's future generations. not much of an incentive for
procreation then. Past ones would be rather dead already by up to 200 years.

You and 7 generations of your family gets whacked.

I was wondering how you can possibly execute 7 future generations.
Once you've wiped out the guy's children and any grandchildren there's
nobody left to reproduce and create the next 5 generations in line for
execution.

Chris

"Gavin Staples" wrote in message
...
Just seen on Teletext, that Thai PM Thaksin Shinawatra has asked for the
death penalty for the killers of Katherine Horton.
It was reported in some of today's newspaper here in the UK that the two
Thai fishermen who raped and killed her referred to the case as
"delicious".
On that basis then, there is no remorse whatsoever and they gloated in
the killing of an innocent person.

The death penalty is wholly and utterly appropriate for cases such as
this. DNA has proved they were guilty. It is beyond reasonable doubt
that they committed the offence and whats more they even think it was
clever.

Why then should these two be given another chance in life after
taking the life of an innocent person. Why should they go to jail and
then be released years later as is often the case in Britain and Europe.
Giving their gloating over it. Its obvious that they would re-offend.

In committing their hideous crime they took the life of an innocent
person in a act of brutality. In doing so they forfeited their right to
life.

Thaksin is quite correct to request the ultimate punishment for the
ultimate crime.



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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 08:05:56 +0700, "alex" wrote:

snip
The death penalty
deterrent makes no difference in Thailand. it has one of the worst murder
rates on the planet.

Hmm, we have had several long discussions in SCT about this subject. I
would be interested if you have any new source about it.

Below, you can see what I have found about murders rates by countries.


_

TOP TEN COUNTRIES FOR HOMICIDE, 2003
COUNTRY PER 100,000

(1) Columbia 63
(2) South Africa 51
(3) Jamaica 32
(4) Venezuela 32
(5) Russia 19
(6) Mexico 13
(7) Lithuania 10
(8) Estonia 10
(9) Latvia 10
(10) Belarus 9

source: www.benbest.com/lifeext/murder.html

Thailand seems to be at the 14th place in a list of 62 countries:
http://www.nationmaster.com/red/grap...mur_cap&int=-1

Also, a 'special' explanation of the murder rates by a 'Christian'
organization:
http://christianparty.net/murdrateworld1.gif

IMO the proportion of tourists' murders in Thailand is rather low,
especially when you see the behaviour of some of them in the Kingdom.

Regards,
Mort

rec.travel.asia,soc.culture.thai,soc.culture.briti sh,soc.culture.australian,
soc.culture.usa

"On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:43:51 GMT, (Deckard) wrote/and/or
quoted:
"
IMO the proportion of tourists' murders in Thailand is rather low,
especially when you see the behaviour of some of them in the Kingdom.

Regards,
Mort

yes, k mort.
especially when these farang tourist take leave of the senses at full moon
partying at koh samui, koh pangang and other kohs, with tuaks, alcohols and
free fuc**king for all in the partying.
is it any wonder the local thai residents there find it
attractive,irresistible, especially the farangs have the local prostitutes,
local freelancers and local katoeys to join in the game "free"?

amongst the farangs a few nights non committal, stands of free sex is no
big deals.

but it is to the locals.

do we blame the locals thinking otherwise?

many local macho men participated to the satisfactions of the farangs.
some locals, like those two "horborn convicts" could be inarticulate,
novice in the game, resort to impromptu murders.

of course not all farangs go to full moon party for orgies:

to walk on the sand with a mobile phone of a lonely night beach?

to savour the humid night air on the silvery sand and choppy sea, with orgy
music in the backgrounds?

most farangs know what koh samui , koh pangang are famous for.
yet they go there.

WHY?
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Even the source you've quoted is doubtful of the accuracy of the
figures. Thailand is a safe place - provided you don't get involved in
even the tiniest conflicts. Drunk and suddenly angry Thais contribute
to quite a bit of manslaughter cases that I don't see much of in other
Asian countries. I presume that these cases of "impulsive killing" are
not classified as murder.

Deckard wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 08:05:56 +0700, "alex" wrote:

snip
The death penalty
deterrent makes no difference in Thailand. it has one of the worst murder
rates on the planet.

Hmm, we have had several long discussions in SCT about this subject. I
would be interested if you have any new source about it.

Below, you can see what I have found about murders rates by countries.


_

TOP TEN COUNTRIES FOR HOMICIDE, 2003
COUNTRY PER 100,000

(1) Columbia 63
(2) South Africa 51
(3) Jamaica 32
(4) Venezuela 32
(5) Russia 19
(6) Mexico 13
(7) Lithuania 10
(8) Estonia 10
(9) Latvia 10
(10) Belarus 9

source: www.benbest.com/lifeext/murder.html

Thailand seems to be at the 14th place in a list of 62 countries:
http://www.nationmaster.com/red/grap...mur_cap&int=-1

Also, a 'special' explanation of the murder rates by a 'Christian'
organization:
http://christianparty.net/murdrateworld1.gif

IMO the proportion of tourists' murders in Thailand is rather low,
especially when you see the behaviour of some of them in the Kingdom.

Regards,
Mort

I'm not getting you here. While it's true that some of the more
conservative locals may be offended by such activities, are you
suggesting that the killers committed the crime because they were
disgusted by the behaviour on their beaches? Or were they part of the
game themselves, getting their own satisfaction from it?

pluto wrote:
amongst the farangs a few nights non committal, stands of free sex is no
big deals.

but it is to the locals.

do we blame the locals thinking otherwise?

many local macho men participated to the satisfactions of the farangs.
some locals, like those two "horborn convicts" could be inarticulate,
novice in the game, resort to impromptu murders.

"On 11 Jan 2006 18:13:07 -0800, "rinpoche"
wrote/and/or quoted:
"
I'm not getting you here. While it's true that some of the more
conservative locals may be offended by such activities, are you
suggesting that the killers committed the crime because they were
disgusted by the behaviour on their beaches?

k rinpoche,
no no no, the local would LOVE to get involved in the orgy. ;-)
but the participating farangs want the locals in the following order:

1.local sexually active girls capable of gross drinking, and f***king,
fetishes, orgies , continuous orgasms .......
2.local macho men capable of satisfying the participating farang men and/or
women
2a. hence strong beautiful katoeys are desirable amongst some of the
farangs.

3, there is a sort of "entrance"/"paticipating" fee for drinks/drugs/orgy
and use of premises.

3a the non selected locals living on the island cannot afford the fee, so
they can only look, see and imagine.

4. in as long as the orgy groups are compacted to one place, they are safe

4a. but poor miss horhon (whether or not involved in the game or was in the
game the night before ) decided to separate from the group on that fateful
night, to do her filial duty of ringing her mother on the desolate beach
on a full moon.--- why on the desolate beach, alone?

4b. this presented a golden opportunity for the two local onlookers to
claim their trophy and dispose of it.

Or were they part of the
game themselves, getting their own satisfaction from it?

5a. in the case of the two local "killers" they were not in the game. they
were "keen frustrated" onlookers. then came a "tempress" on whom the two
locals took too drastic an action -- not out of revenge but out of
inexperience.

5b. in their inexperience, they paniced, hid the evidence by killing her,
and diposed her into the sea (bad move)

6. i wonder the do-gooders-- human right activists-- would "fight" on the
locals' behave? ;-)

pluto wrote:
amongst the farangs a few nights non committal, stands of free sex is no
big deals.

but it is to the locals.

do we blame the locals thinking otherwise?

many local macho men participated to the satisfactions of the farangs.
some locals, like those two "horborn convicts" could be inarticulate,
novice in the game, resort to impromptu murders.


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-pluto

Kuhn Pluto

partying at koh samui, koh pangang and other kohs, with tuaks, alcohols and

What are tuaks?I have no idea so it must be something to do with
orgies as I have
never been to or seen one

TIA

"On 12 Jan 2006 04:54:13 -0800, "bob_a_booie"
wrote/and/or quoted:
"
Kuhn Pluto

partying at koh samui, koh pangang and other kohs, with tuaks, alcohols and

What are tuaks?

k, bob,
tuak is a colloquial malay word for home made alcoholic brew from anything
brewable :-) coconut water, rice, pineapple, palm seeds and husk; the
result of which is usually high alcoholic fiery portions shooting up ear,
nose, throats, gullets and after a while the party begins with drugs popped
down for good measure.


I have no idea so it must be something to do with
orgies

not necessarily, tuaks are poor man's brew in malaysia
toddy (made from coconut brew) is the drink of choice of down and out
indian labourers
but for some unknown reasons, these local contents were/are used may be to
integrate into local culture? . they could have used don perignon from
home. and ya ba at the island.

as I have
never been to or seen one

go and find out preferably with a helpful partner to keep an eye on each
other..
be very very careful.
more deaths from overdose/exhaustion/over exposure than murders happen
here.

these deaths are never classified as violent and are never recorded as
brought in dead (which they are), but on admission into the clinic, the
patient is pronounced to be "breathing" and went into cardiac distress and
failure.
diagnosis: cardiac faiture
absolutely normal ;-)


k bob, surely you have been to club med anywhere around the world?


TIA



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free france)...

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Boring.................

Too bookish, you old senile goat from France.

Get lost and go play with your "boules" somewhere in the streets of France.

Or give us news about what you know the best, "the Thai numbers".

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Or maybe your Chinese whore?

Now, that's something interesting for a change.

How is her AIDS going on?

Does she have already huge ugly spots on her ugly face?

Come on, dont be shy.



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