Cruise passengers need passports in 2007

Cruise passengers need passports in 2007
The U.S. travel industry says tougher border procedures for U.S.
citizens and foreign travellers could put a squeeze on
cruise passengers.
The Wall Street Journal says passports will be required starting next
year for most everyone entering the United States
from the Caribbean, Canada and Mexico through airports and seaports.
Land borders will adopt the same requirement
in 2008.
The newspaper said the travel industry and some border-state lawmakers
worry that the new procedures will cause
"confusion and long delays." Only 25 percent of Americans currently
have passports.
The U.S. State Department's head passport official says people
travelling to the Caribbean this winter need to start
worrying about a passport this fall, the newspaper reported.

"Jaap" wrote in message
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Cruise passengers need passports in 2007
The U.S. travel industry says tougher border procedures for U.S.
citizens and foreign travellers could put a squeeze on
cruise passengers.
The Wall Street Journal says passports will be required starting next
year for most everyone entering the United States
from the Caribbean, Canada and Mexico through airports and seaports.
Land borders will adopt the same requirement
in 2008.
The newspaper said the travel industry and some border-state lawmakers
worry that the new procedures will cause
"confusion and long delays." Only 25 percent of Americans currently
have passports.
The U.S. State Department's head passport official says people
travelling to the Caribbean this winter need to start
worrying about a passport this fall, the newspaper reported.

Should be no problem for most americans. An american can go to the city,
where they were born and get a copy of a birth certificate. Most cities have
birth records dating back for decades. These people you see moaning on tv
and complaining about getting a birth certificate, as "too much trouble" are
simply complaining because they were not born in this country and are
illegal. You need to produce a birth certificate and a proper photograph to
get a passport. I also believe it costs close to $100 and takes a few weeks.
Anyone, who can afford to go on a cruise, will not work up a sweat worrying
about $100. IMHO, every american citizen should have a passport and it could
be used as national identification for voting, leaving and returning to this
country and government benefit programs, which apply only to citizens.

JP

"JP" wrote:

"Jaap" wrote in message
roups.com...
Cruise passengers need passports in 2007
The U.S. travel industry says tougher border procedures for U.S.
citizens and foreign travellers could put a squeeze on
cruise passengers.
The Wall Street Journal says passports will be required starting next
year for most everyone entering the United States
from the Caribbean, Canada and Mexico through airports and seaports.
Land borders will adopt the same requirement
in 2008.
The newspaper said the travel industry and some border-state lawmakers
worry that the new procedures will cause
"confusion and long delays." Only 25 percent of Americans currently
have passports.
The U.S. State Department's head passport official says people
travelling to the Caribbean this winter need to start
worrying about a passport this fall, the newspaper reported.

Should be no problem for most americans. An american can go to the city,
where they were born and get a copy of a birth certificate. Most cities have
birth records dating back for decades. These people you see moaning on tv

This is a great oversimplification, and also somewhat naive.

First, most cities DON'T keep birth certificates. They are usually in
a central records depository which may or may not be in the capitol
city - in the case of Maryland, they are in Baltimore and not in
Annapolis which the capitol.

Second, the US is quite a large country and traveling to the city or
state of one's birth can involve even more difficulty and distance
than going on a cruise - because people no longer necessarily live
close to where they were born.

It IS a lot of trouble, and also some expense to get a birth
certificate.

and complaining about getting a birth certificate, as "too much trouble" are
simply complaining because they were not born in this country and are
illegal. You need to produce a birth certificate and a proper photograph to
get a passport. I also believe it costs close to $100 and takes a few weeks.
Anyone, who can afford to go on a cruise, will not work up a sweat worrying
about $100. IMHO, every american citizen should have a passport and it could
be used as national identification for voting, leaving and returning to this
country and government benefit programs, which apply only to citizens.

JP

Rosalie B. wrote:
"JP" wrote:

"Jaap" wrote in message
oups.com...
Cruise passengers need passports in 2007
The U.S. travel industry says tougher border procedures for U.S.
citizens and foreign travellers could put a squeeze on
cruise passengers.
The Wall Street Journal says passports will be required starting next
year for most everyone entering the United States
from the Caribbean, Canada and Mexico through airports and seaports.
Land borders will adopt the same requirement
in 2008.
The newspaper said the travel industry and some border-state lawmakers
worry that the new procedures will cause
"confusion and long delays." Only 25 percent of Americans currently
have passports.
The U.S. State Department's head passport official says people
travelling to the Caribbean this winter need to start
worrying about a passport this fall, the newspaper reported.
Should be no problem for most americans. An american can go to the city,
where they were born and get a copy of a birth certificate. Most cities have
birth records dating back for decades. These people you see moaning on tv

This is a great oversimplification, and also somewhat naive.

First, most cities DON'T keep birth certificates. They are usually in
a central records depository which may or may not be in the capitol
city - in the case of Maryland, they are in Baltimore and not in
Annapolis which the capitol.

Second, the US is quite a large country and traveling to the city or
state of one's birth can involve even more difficulty and distance
than going on a cruise - because people no longer necessarily live
close to where they were born.

It IS a lot of trouble, and also some expense to get a birth
certificate.


It was pretty simple and cheap getting numerous birth certificates for
my family as well as friends by going to www.vitalcheck.com.
Ordered them online for about $8 plus s/h and had them in less than 2 weeks.
Each state charges different amounts.
If you don't need the birth certificate the next day or so it doesn't
seem to be that big of a deal to me.

Bill



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On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 14:25:39 GMT, "JP" wrote:

"Jaap" wrote in message
roups.com...
Cruise passengers need passports in 2007
The U.S. travel industry says tougher border procedures for U.S.
citizens and foreign travellers could put a squeeze on
cruise passengers.
The Wall Street Journal says passports will be required starting next
year for most everyone entering the United States
from the Caribbean, Canada and Mexico through airports and seaports.
Land borders will adopt the same requirement
in 2008.
The newspaper said the travel industry and some border-state lawmakers
worry that the new procedures will cause
"confusion and long delays." Only 25 percent of Americans currently
have passports.
The U.S. State Department's head passport official says people
travelling to the Caribbean this winter need to start
worrying about a passport this fall, the newspaper reported.

Should be no problem for most americans. An american can go to the city,
where they were born and get a copy of a birth certificate. Most cities have
birth records dating back for decades. These people you see moaning on tv
and complaining about getting a birth certificate, as "too much trouble" are
simply complaining because they were not born in this country and are
illegal.

That's absolute nonsense.
Thumper


You need to produce a birth certificate and a proper photograph to
get a passport. I also believe it costs close to $100 and takes a few weeks.
Anyone, who can afford to go on a cruise, will not work up a sweat worrying
about $100. IMHO, every american citizen should have a passport and it could
be used as national identification for voting, leaving and returning to this
country and government benefit programs, which apply only to citizens.

JP

JP wrote:
Should be no problem for most americans. An american can go to the city,
where they were born and get a copy of a birth certificate. Most cities have
birth records dating back for decades. These people you see moaning on tv
and complaining about getting a birth certificate, as "too much trouble" are
simply complaining because they were not born in this country and are
illegal.

My ex-mother-in-law does not have a birth certificate, only a baptismal
certificate, and she was born in this country. I don't imagine she's
the only person in this country in that situation.

Marsha/Ohio

In article ,
Marsha wrote:

JP wrote:
Should be no problem for most americans. An american can go to the city,
where they were born and get a copy of a birth certificate. Most cities have
birth records dating back for decades. These people you see moaning on tv
and complaining about getting a birth certificate, as "too much trouble" are
simply complaining because they were not born in this country and are
illegal.

My ex-mother-in-law does not have a birth certificate, only a baptismal
certificate, and she was born in this country. I don't imagine she's
the only person in this country in that situation.

Marsha/Ohio

Has she checked with the state and county she was born in? There
are some people with problems related to the odd "Courthouse Fire" that
mysteriously occurred after some official got a subpeona. (g).

Marsha wrote:

JP wrote:

Should be no problem for most americans. An american can go to the city,
where they were born and get a copy of a birth certificate. Most
cities have
birth records dating back for decades. These people you see moaning on tv
and complaining about getting a birth certificate, as "too much
trouble" are
simply complaining because they were not born in this country and are
illegal.


My ex-mother-in-law does not have a birth certificate, only a baptismal
certificate, and she was born in this country. I don't imagine she's
the only person in this country in that situation.

Many, many years ago my mother, now deceased, had the same problem.
She had been born at home(in the US) and had no birth certificate. It
took a lot of work, but she was able to get a passport. I would guess
the process would be harder nowadays for someone without a birth
certificate.

sue

In article ,
Sue and Kevin Mullen wrote:

Marsha wrote:

JP wrote:

Should be no problem for most americans. An american can go to the city,
where they were born and get a copy of a birth certificate. Most
cities have
birth records dating back for decades. These people you see moaning on tv
and complaining about getting a birth certificate, as "too much
trouble" are
simply complaining because they were not born in this country and are
illegal.


My ex-mother-in-law does not have a birth certificate, only a baptismal
certificate, and she was born in this country. I don't imagine she's
the only person in this country in that situation.

Many, many years ago my mother, now deceased, had the same problem.
She had been born at home(in the US) and had no birth certificate. It
took a lot of work, but she was able to get a passport. I would guess
the process would be harder nowadays for someone without a birth
certificate.

sue

If you are interested, this is where you can find the stuff needed for
passport. Basically a letter a from the state saying they have no record
on file,
1. AND as many of the following as possible:
? Baptismal certificate
? Hospital birth certificate
? Census record
? Early school record
? Family bible record
? Doctor's record of post-natal care
NOTES: These documents must be early public records showing the date and
place of birth, preferably created within the first five years of your
life.
You may also submit an Affidavit of Birth, form DS-10, from an older
blood relative, i.e., a parent, aunt, uncle, sibling, who has personal
knowledge of your birth. It must be notarized or have the seal and
signature of the acceptance agent.


http://travel.state.gov/passport/get...first_830.html

Sue and Kevin Mullen wrote:


Marsha wrote:

JP wrote:

Should be no problem for most americans. An american can go to the city,
where they were born and get a copy of a birth certificate. Most
cities have
birth records dating back for decades. These people you see moaning
on tv
and complaining about getting a birth certificate, as "too much
trouble" are
simply complaining because they were not born in this country and are
illegal.



My ex-mother-in-law does not have a birth certificate, only a
baptismal certificate, and she was born in this country. I don't
imagine she's the only person in this country in that situation.


Many, many years ago my mother, now deceased, had the same problem. She
had been born at home(in the US) and had no birth certificate. It took a
lot of work, but she was able to get a passport. I would guess the
process would be harder nowadays for someone without a birth certificate.

sue
It is actually easier since the State Registrars have set up
centralized facilities to handle the "no record" situations. If you
are going to travel outside the borders of the U.S. get a passport; it
is that simple. Yes it will take time, and cost some money, but the
sooner you get started the sooner you will be finished with the task.

Cheers, and smooth sailing,
John in LALALand (On the Left Coast and Lov'n it)