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Looking for ideas about a honeymoon safari
You might like to look at Zambia?
There are now some pretty luxurious places (Tongabezi, for example) with 'honeymoon suites'. It doesnt have the massive herds that East Aprica has, but is good for birds and has excellent guides. I'm a great fan of the Coppinger's places (Tafika http://www.remoteafrica.com/) but you may think they are not luxurious enough. You can do night drives and walking in Zambia. Sunvil is an excellent agent to book through (now called Expert Africa http://africa-holidays.sunvil.co.uk/...p?source=menu2) -- Rita Daggett |
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Looking for ideas about a honeymoon safari
In article . com, "Fred"
wrote: Dear Liz, thank you for your answer. In fact, we really do not know the season we are going to travel ... So this is completely open ! Thank you for your advice. This makes considerable difference. During the dry season there are considerable difference in where animals go than during the wet season. The Chobe Game Lodge in Botswana would be an OK place during the dry season, but when the rains start to come a lot of the wildlife starts moving inland because the water holes start to fill up. Kruger Park in South Africa and its surrounding areas offer a considerable variety in activities. They have night drives (must be reserved in advance due to limited space and popularity), evening drives, etc. There are places outside the park, reasonably close, where one can also do such things as hot air baloon trips. Other places in South Africa offer quite a variety, including a breeding site for Jackass Penguins. Depending on how long you are there, you might want to try a variety of places. Even, for example, within Kruger itself there are several major centers to stay the night. The same spot on the Sabie River gets awfully boring after a while after you have seen it over and over again over the course of several game drives. Given enough time you could spend several days in each place within Kruger and get a lot of variety in both locations within the park and the wildlife you see. Or, you could do what I did and spend some time in Zambia (Victoria Falls), Botswana and South Africa. -- -Glennl The despammed service works OK, but unfortunately now the spammers grab addresses for use as "from" address too! e-mail hint: add 1 to quantity after gl to get 4317. |
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Looking for ideas about a honeymoon safari
Dear Rita,
thank you for your suggestions. Our french travel agency had already talked to us about Zambia and the links you have sent to me shows there are beautiful places to have such activities we are found of. Even if it is not for our honeymoon trip, i will keep these precious information for a further safari. Best regards. Rita Daggett a écrit : You might like to look at Zambia? There are now some pretty luxurious places (Tongabezi, for example) with 'honeymoon suites'. It doesnt have the massive herds that East Aprica has, but is good for birds and has excellent guides. I'm a great fan of the Coppinger's places (Tafika http://www.remoteafrica.com/) but you may think they are not luxurious enough. You can do night drives and walking in Zambia. Sunvil is an excellent agent to book through (now called Expert Africa http://africa-holidays.sunvil.co.uk/...p?source=menu2) -- Rita Daggett |
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"Fred" wrote: Depending on the season and on th places, we would like to know what part of Masai Mara are the best ? The Migration comes into the Mara reliably in the third week in July, but usually before that, sometimes in late June. Early on, you want to be in the south, round about Keekorok Lodge, which although nice probably isn't small and romantic enough for you. I don't know of any small camps in that area, but there seem to be new camps springing up all the time. Siana Springs is nice, but way out of the reserve, and away from the migration route. But you can do night drives, which are always hit-or-miss (good in July 06 - last year already! Come to mid-August and the Migration will be crossing the river, and you want optimally to be in the area of the Mara Serena. After that, you'd want to be in the north of the reserve, then follow the migratory route back southwards until it goes back into Tz late October/November. Personally, I wouldn't choose to be in the Mara outside the Migration - I've posted several times that it happened once by accident, and there was very little in the way of mammals to be seen: but still plenty of birds. Other people say they have seen plenty 'out of season'. In parallel of our e-talks, we have also consulted some french travel agencies. One of them made a proposal (which seems very attractive but also very luxurious and expensive) which is the following : Cottars 1920. Do you know this place and the services provided there ? Have you hear about it ? I'd heard that it's very nice and exclusive, maybe that was just their advertising, I can't remember, and haven't been there. Another suggestion (in the north) might be Little Governor's Camp. Maybe someone can comment on Tortilis Camp in Amboseli: I've heard mixed reports, but the only really bad one was from a driver/guide based on a pre-opening event for tour companies - I think they were unlucky with their food, which clouded their opinion! Amboseli is pretty much underrated. If you're going to be in a few places, consider having your own guide for the full trip. If you stay at a camp, you might have to share the vehicle with the other guests, whose interests may not be the same as yours, or if they've never been to Africa before, they might want to spend longer with the more 'usual' species while you want to birdwatch or look for less usual species. Lang may yer lum reek! (Scottish New Year greeting for Frederic and all other readers) Slainte mhath (Gaelic for 'Good Health') Safari njema (goes without saying) Liz -- http://www.v-liz.com - Kenya; Tanzania; Namibia; India; Galapagos Photo Gallery: http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/g...emberID=165111 |
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Dear Liz,
thank you very much for your advice and wishes ! Best regards Liz Leyden a écrit : In message . com "Fred" wrote: Depending on the season and on th places, we would like to know what part of Masai Mara are the best ? The Migration comes into the Mara reliably in the third week in July, but usually before that, sometimes in late June. Early on, you want to be in the south, round about Keekorok Lodge, which although nice probably isn't small and romantic enough for you. I don't know of any small camps in that area, but there seem to be new camps springing up all the time. Siana Springs is nice, but way out of the reserve, and away from the migration route. But you can do night drives, which are always hit-or-miss (good in July 06 - last year already! Come to mid-August and the Migration will be crossing the river, and you want optimally to be in the area of the Mara Serena. After that, you'd want to be in the north of the reserve, then follow the migratory route back southwards until it goes back into Tz late October/November. Personally, I wouldn't choose to be in the Mara outside the Migration - I've posted several times that it happened once by accident, and there was very little in the way of mammals to be seen: but still plenty of birds. Other people say they have seen plenty 'out of season'. In parallel of our e-talks, we have also consulted some french travel agencies. One of them made a proposal (which seems very attractive but also very luxurious and expensive) which is the following : Cottars 1920. Do you know this place and the services provided there ? Have you hear about it ? I'd heard that it's very nice and exclusive, maybe that was just their advertising, I can't remember, and haven't been there. Another suggestion (in the north) might be Little Governor's Camp. Maybe someone can comment on Tortilis Camp in Amboseli: I've heard mixed reports, but the only really bad one was from a driver/guide based on a pre-opening event for tour companies - I think they were unlucky with their food, which clouded their opinion! Amboseli is pretty much underrated. If you're going to be in a few places, consider having your own guide for the full trip. If you stay at a camp, you might have to share the vehicle with the other guests, whose interests may not be the same as yours, or if they've never been to Africa before, they might want to spend longer with the more 'usual' species while you want to birdwatch or look for less usual species. Lang may yer lum reek! (Scottish New Year greeting for Frederic and all other readers) Slainte mhath (Gaelic for 'Good Health') Safari njema (goes without saying) Liz -- http://www.v-liz.com - Kenya; Tanzania; Namibia; India; Galapagos Photo Gallery: http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/g...emberID=165111 |
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In article . com, "Fred"
wrote: I am also very interested in your advice and comments about South Africa and especially Kruger park and its neighbourood. I have heard that the park has several different part (north, south) with also nice private reserves around like Sabi-Sabi or Sabi-Sand. Tell me : if you were getting there for two weeks in which place will you go and stay ? The park is some 380 km from north to south and covers about 2.5 million hectares. This ignores the additions of the Zimbabwe Gonarezhou National Park and the Mozambique Gaza Rezerve. This creates a conservation area of some 37 million hectares, not including some privately owned game reserves nearby. I'm no expert on Kruger. I have only visited a small portion of this vast area, and most of that was in the south of Kruger. If I were to visit there for two solid weeks, I would choose somewhere close to the middle of the park, just to be able to cover a much wider range of areas that I hadn't seen before. Central-south is also where the largest number of overnight locations are, and that may or may not be a good thing. It's convenient there, but it is also popular. I don't know that much about the area in the far north of the park, other than there are only a few camps to stay. Of the guide books on South Africa I have, I think I like Frommer's South Africa the best in terms of giving out useful information. The writer was born in Durban, raised in Johannesburg and lives in Cape Town. The "Kruger and Environs" chapter has 52 pages of text and maps - no space consuming photos. There are some two pages of other activities (hot air balooning, rafting etc.) listed near the start of that chapter. Considering the very large area and the variety of activities, and your desire to stay in one place, I would probably choose what activities to do and *then* choose an overnight location convenient to the activities. I'm quite certain that there are others who participate in this group that would know more about South Africa in general and Kruger in particular. - Glenn -- -Glennl The despammed service works OK, but unfortunately now the spammers grab addresses for use as "from" address too! e-mail hint: add 1 to quantity after gl to get 4317. |
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Fred,
Why not to go to Tanzania in the South Parks like Selous and Ruaha ! We spent in November 2 weeks in Selous and Ruaha for the second time and it's a very nice place for a reasonnable budget if you compare with Botswana . Small camps , wildlife everywhere , few tourists ! You can see the website : www.africatravelresource.com and select Tanzania and South . Best to go : Augustus-September-October-November And after , some days on the Dar-es-Salaam coast or Zanzibar ! You can contact me for more details and also the tour operator we used for a long time : "Fred" a écrit dans le message de news: ... Dear Liz, thank you very much for your advice and wishes ! Best regards Liz Leyden a écrit : In message . com "Fred" wrote: Depending on the season and on th places, we would like to know what part of Masai Mara are the best ? The Migration comes into the Mara reliably in the third week in July, but usually before that, sometimes in late June. Early on, you want to be in the south, round about Keekorok Lodge, which although nice probably isn't small and romantic enough for you. I don't know of any small camps in that area, but there seem to be new camps springing up all the time. Siana Springs is nice, but way out of the reserve, and away from the migration route. But you can do night drives, which are always hit-or-miss (good in July 06 - last year already! Come to mid-August and the Migration will be crossing the river, and you want optimally to be in the area of the Mara Serena. After that, you'd want to be in the north of the reserve, then follow the migratory route back southwards until it goes back into Tz late October/November. Personally, I wouldn't choose to be in the Mara outside the Migration - I've posted several times that it happened once by accident, and there was very little in the way of mammals to be seen: but still plenty of birds. Other people say they have seen plenty 'out of season'. In parallel of our e-talks, we have also consulted some french travel agencies. One of them made a proposal (which seems very attractive but also very luxurious and expensive) which is the following : Cottars 1920. Do you know this place and the services provided there ? Have you hear about it ? I'd heard that it's very nice and exclusive, maybe that was just their advertising, I can't remember, and haven't been there. Another suggestion (in the north) might be Little Governor's Camp. Maybe someone can comment on Tortilis Camp in Amboseli: I've heard mixed reports, but the only really bad one was from a driver/guide based on a pre-opening event for tour companies - I think they were unlucky with their food, which clouded their opinion! Amboseli is pretty much underrated. If you're going to be in a few places, consider having your own guide for the full trip. If you stay at a camp, you might have to share the vehicle with the other guests, whose interests may not be the same as yours, or if they've never been to Africa before, they might want to spend longer with the more 'usual' species while you want to birdwatch or look for less usual species. Lang may yer lum reek! (Scottish New Year greeting for Frederic and all other readers) Slainte mhath (Gaelic for 'Good Health') Safari njema (goes without saying) Liz -- http://www.v-liz.com - Kenya; Tanzania; Namibia; India; Galapagos Photo Gallery: http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/g...emberID=165111 |
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Fred wrote:
Hi all, my girl-friend and i are looking for some ideas for a honeymoon safari. We are not newcomers as we spent some time in Africa : two years in Cameroon, two safaris in Kenya, 1 in Tanzania and one in Botswana. We are looking for a romantic and luxurious place where we may have two weeks of safari in a rich wildlife area. Requirements are the following : inside a wildlife reserve beautiful landscape luxurious tented camp or lodge highest quality of game guides opportunities for having other activities like walking, night safaris, .... balloon or aircraft trips fine place for bird watching also So, your best ideas even the craziest ones are expected. Thanks for all. Carine and Frederic FRED, YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK INTO MUKUTAN RETREAT AND MAKENA'S HILLS IN LAIKIPIA (RIFT VALLEY)..THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST PLACES I'VE EVER STAYED, WITHOUT A DOUBT.. www.gallmannkenya.org.. ALSO I AGREE WITH DAVE PATTERSON'S SUGGESTION REGARDING FINCH HATTONS IN TSAVO WEST...EXCELLENT! |
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Magoo wrote: FRED, YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK INTO MUKUTAN RETREAT AND MAKENA'S HILLS IN LAIKIPIA (RIFT VALLEY)..THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST PLACES I'VE EVER STAYED, WITHOUT A DOUBT.. www.gallmannkenya.org.. ALSO I AGREE WITH DAVE PATTERSON'S SUGGESTION REGARDING FINCH HATTONS IN TSAVO WEST...EXCELLENT! Is that Kuki Gallman's place? I'm currently re-reading African nights. Hadn't heard from anyone who's stayed with her. Slainte Liz -- http://www.v-liz.com - Kenya; Tanzania; Namibia; India; Galapagos Photo Gallery: http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/g...emberID=165111 |
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