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Old April 22nd, 2009, 06:41 PM posted to rec.sport.rugby.union,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.air
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Default Ryanair considers 'fat tax' for obese air passengers

La-a-a-a-a-aarry the La-a-a-a-a-a-a-mb wrote:
Ryanair considers 'fat tax' for obese air passengers
Ryanair may impose a fat tax after more than 30,000 passengers voted
to levy charges on overweight passengers.

By Charles Starmer-Smith (Nigel's brother)
Last Updated: 1:36PM BST 22 Apr 2009
Ryanair considers 'fat tax' for obese air passengers
A survey this week showed that 83 per cent of Telegraph Travel readers
are in favour of charging obese passengers for an extra seat Photo:
GETTY IMAGES

The controversial move was announced today after a third of passengers
on the Irish airlines website voted in favour of charging fees for
obese passengers.

Over 100,000 passengers took part in our competition and almost one
in three think that very large passengers should be asked to pay a fat
tax, said Ryanairs Stephen McNamara. A fat tax will only apply to
those really large passengers who invade the space of the passengers
sitting beside them."

The revenues from any such fat tax will be used to lower the airfares
for all Ryanairs passengers yet further.

Last week United Airlines admitted that it will start charging
overweight passengers more, if they cannot fit into conventional
economy seats.

Passengers must be able to put their arm rests down and fasten their
seat belts (even with an extension) or they will be asked to pay for
an extra seat or be moved on to a later flight.

The policy applies to tickets purchased on or after March 4.

A survey this week of Telegraph readers supported the move by United
Airlines, with 83 per cent currently in favour of charging obese
passengers for an extra seat.

Recent research by the operator First Choice, using a nationwide
sizing survey, found that British holidaymakers are becoming too fat
to fit into conventional airline seats.

Two thirds of men are now too broad-shouldered for their neighbours
comfort in 16-inch aircraft seats, the standard size in economy on
many aircraft. While one woman in seven was too broad for a seat.

Between 1951 and 2002, the average female has put on 1.5 inches around
the hips, the research found.

The final results of the Ryanair survey were as follows:

29 per cent Excess fees for very overweight passengers

25 per cent 1 for toilet paper with OLearys face on it

24 per cent 3 to smoke in a converted lavatory cubicle

14 per cent Annual subscription to access Ryanair.com

8 cent 2 corkage fee for passengers who bring their own food on-
board.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/tr...assengers.html



I seem to remember this from a few years ago:

http://news.scotsman.com/obesity/Squ...out.2371340.jp

If the fat buggers need two seats they should pay for two. If I need
two cans of paint to decorate a bedroom I don't expect B&Q to let me
have the second free just because I've got a big bedroom.


Mike
  #12  
Old April 22nd, 2009, 08:49 PM posted to rec.sport.rugby.union,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.air
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Default Ryanair considers 'fat tax' for obese air passengers

On Apr 22, 5:20*pm, didgerman wrote:
Uncle Dave wrote:
On Apr 22, 2:34 pm, La-a-a-a-a-aarry the La-a-a-a-a-a-a-mb
wrote:
Ryanair considers 'fat tax' for obese air passengers
Ryanair may impose a fat tax after more than 30,000 passengers voted
to levy charges on overweight passengers.


By Charles Starmer-Smith (Nigel's brother)
Last Updated: 1:36PM BST 22 Apr 2009
Ryanair considers 'fat tax' for obese air passengers
A survey this week showed that 83 per cent of Telegraph Travel readers
are in favour of charging obese passengers for an extra seat Photo:
GETTY IMAGES


The controversial move was announced today after a third of passengers
on the Irish airlines website voted in favour of charging fees for
obese passengers.


These would be the same passengers who are in favour of mobiles on
planes?


What's wrong with that?


If you don't know, there's no point trying to explain.

UD
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Old April 22nd, 2009, 08:54 PM posted to rec.sport.rugby.union,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.air
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Ryanair considers 'fat tax' for obese air passengers
Ryanair may impose a fat tax after more than 30,000 passengers voted
to levy charges on overweight passengers.

By Charles Starmer-Smith (Nigel's brother)
Last Updated: 1:36PM BST 22 Apr 2009
Ryanair considers 'fat tax' for obese air passengers
A survey this week showed that 83 per cent of Telegraph Travel readers
are in favour of charging obese passengers for an extra seat Photo:
GETTY IMAGES

The controversial move was announced today after a third of passengers
on the Irish airlines website voted in favour of charging fees for
obese passengers.

Over 100,000 passengers took part in our competition and almost one
in three think that very large passengers should be asked to pay a fat
tax, said Ryanairs Stephen McNamara. A fat tax will only apply to
those really large passengers who invade the space of the passengers
sitting beside them."

The revenues from any such fat tax will be used to lower the airfares
for all Ryanairs passengers yet further.

Last week United Airlines admitted that it will start charging
overweight passengers more, if they cannot fit into conventional
economy seats.

Passengers must be able to put their arm rests down and fasten their
seat belts (even with an extension) or they will be asked to pay for
an extra seat or be moved on to a later flight.

The policy applies to tickets purchased on or after March 4.

A survey this week of Telegraph readers supported the move by United
Airlines, with 83 per cent currently in favour of charging obese
passengers for an extra seat.

Recent research by the operator First Choice, using a nationwide
sizing survey, found that British holidaymakers are becoming too fat
to fit into conventional airline seats.

Two thirds of men are now too broad-shouldered for their neighbours
comfort in 16-inch aircraft seats, the standard size in economy on
many aircraft. While one woman in seven was too broad for a seat.

Between 1951 and 2002, the average female has put on 1.5 inches around
the hips, the research found.

The final results of the Ryanair survey were as follows:

29 per cent Excess fees for very overweight passengers

25 per cent 1 for toilet paper with OLearys face on it

24 per cent 3 to smoke in a converted lavatory cubicle

14 per cent Annual subscription to access Ryanair.com

8 cent 2 corkage fee for passengers who bring their own food on-
board.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/tr...assengers.html


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Old April 22nd, 2009, 09:13 PM posted to rec.sport.rugby.union,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.air
Mike[_24_]
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Default Ryanair considers 'fat tax' for obese air passengers


Between 1951 and 2002, the average female has put on 1.5 inches around
the hips, the research found.


Actually in 51 years thats not bad. My wife's gone up a dress size in ten.

Mike
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Old April 22nd, 2009, 09:33 PM posted to rec.sport.rugby.union,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.air
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Default Ryanair considers 'fat tax' for obese air passengers

On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:09:16 -0700, Uncle Dave wrote:

On Apr 22, 2:38*pm, William Black wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:34:04 -0700, La-a-a-a-a-aarry the
La-a-a-a-a-a-a-mb wrote:

Ryanair considers 'fat tax' for obese air passengers Ryanair may
impose a “fat tax” after more than 30,000 passengers voted to levy
charges on overweight passengers.


Knowing Ryanair it'll be levied on anyone over 50kg...


I flew with Ryanair once. I wouldn't do it again - they're a joke.


Does anyone?

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Old April 22nd, 2009, 09:39 PM posted to rec.sport.rugby.union,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.air
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Default Ryanair considers 'fat tax' for obese air passengers

William Black wrote:

On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:09:16 -0700, Uncle Dave wrote:

On Apr 22, 2:38 pm, William Black wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:34:04 -0700, La-a-a-a-a-aarry the
La-a-a-a-a-a-a-mb wrote:

Ryanair considers 'fat tax' for obese air passengers Ryanair may
impose a "fat tax" after more than 30,000 passengers voted to levy
charges on overweight passengers.

Knowing Ryanair it'll be levied on anyone over 50kg...


I flew with Ryanair once. I wouldn't do it again - they're a joke.


Does anyone?


What an absurd question. Patently lots of people fly with them again,
otherwise they wouldn't be so successful. I have never had a problem
flying with them. I find the ads they play on the plane annoying, but I
tune it out. However, when travelling with my partner, as we then need
to pay for check-in (he's got a US passport) that automatically adds
around 20 each to the cost of a return ticket alas. They still work out
cheaper than many of their competitors. I have utterly no allegiance to
airlines, and will generally choose the cheapest option. I've not had a
problem with any of the budget airlines I've flown with.

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Old April 22nd, 2009, 11:24 PM posted to rec.sport.rugby.union,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.air
JohnO
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Default Ryanair considers 'fat tax' for obese air passengers

On Apr 23, 7:49*am, Uncle Dave wrote:
On Apr 22, 5:20*pm, didgerman wrote:



Uncle Dave wrote:
On Apr 22, 2:34 pm, La-a-a-a-a-aarry the La-a-a-a-a-a-a-mb
wrote:
Ryanair considers 'fat tax' for obese air passengers
Ryanair may impose a fat tax after more than 30,000 passengers voted
to levy charges on overweight passengers.


By Charles Starmer-Smith (Nigel's brother)
Last Updated: 1:36PM BST 22 Apr 2009
Ryanair considers 'fat tax' for obese air passengers
A survey this week showed that 83 per cent of Telegraph Travel readers
are in favour of charging obese passengers for an extra seat Photo:
GETTY IMAGES


The controversial move was announced today after a third of passengers
on the Irish airlines website voted in favour of charging fees for
obese passengers.


These would be the same passengers who are in favour of mobiles on
planes?


What's wrong with that?


If you don't know, there's no point trying to explain.

UD


There's no safety issue cellphone use on planes. They have nil effect
on navigation systems. It's simply an overly cautious FAA rule.

GA pilots regularly use their cellphones while flying, including IFR
flights.


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Old April 23rd, 2009, 01:25 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
PatTX[_3_]
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Default Ryanair considers 'fat tax' for obese air passengers

:::: These would be the same passengers who are in favour of mobiles on
:::: planes?
::
::: What's wrong with that?
::
:: If you don't know, there's no point trying to explain.
::
:: UD
:
: There's no safety issue cellphone use on planes. They have nil effect
: on navigation systems. It's simply an overly cautious FAA rule.
:
: GA pilots regularly use their cellphones while flying, including IFR
: flights.

It's not the safety issue: it's the rude, boring, obnoxious passenger issue!

Pat


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Old April 23rd, 2009, 07:11 AM posted to rec.sport.rugby.union,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.air
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"Simon S-B" writes:

"La-a-a-a-a-aarry the La-a-a-a-a-a-a-mb" wrote in
message
...
Ryanair considers 'fat tax' for obese air passengers
Ryanair may impose a “fat tax” after more than 30,000 passengers voted
to levy charges on overweight passengers.

By Charles Starmer-Smith (Nigel's brother)
Last Updated: 1:36PM BST 22 Apr 2009
Ryanair considers 'fat tax' for obese air passengers
A survey this week showed that 83 per cent of Telegraph Travel readers
are in favour of charging obese passengers for an extra seat Photo:
GETTY IMAGES

The controversial move was announced today after a third of passengers
on the Irish airline’s website voted in favour of charging fees for
obese passengers.

“Over 100,000 passengers took part in our competition and almost one
in three think that very large passengers should be asked to pay a fat
tax,“ said Ryanair’s Stephen McNamara. “A ‘fat tax’ will only apply to
those really large passengers who invade the space of the passengers
sitting beside them."

“The revenues from any such fat tax will be used to lower the airfares
for all Ryanair’s passengers yet further.”

Last week United Airlines admitted that it will start charging
overweight passengers more, if they cannot fit into conventional
economy seats.

Passengers must be able to put their arm rests down and fasten their
seat belts (even with an extension) or they will be asked to pay for
an extra seat or be moved on to a later flight.

The policy applies to tickets purchased on or after March 4.

A survey this week of Telegraph readers supported the move by United
Airlines, with 83 per cent currently in favour of charging obese
passengers for an extra seat.

Recent research by the operator First Choice, using a nationwide
sizing survey, found that British holidaymakers are becoming too fat
to fit into conventional airline seats.

Two thirds of men are now too broad-shouldered for their neighbours’
comfort in 16-inch aircraft seats, the standard size in economy on
many aircraft. While one woman in seven was too broad for a seat.

Between 1951 and 2002, the average female has put on 1.5 inches around
the hips, the research found.

The final results of the Ryanair survey were as follows:

29 per cent – Excess fees for very overweight passengers

25 per cent – €1 for toilet paper – with O’Leary’s face on it

24 per cent – €3 to smoke in a converted lavatory cubicle

14 per cent – Annual subscription to access Ryanair.com

8 cent – €2 “corkage” fee for passengers who bring their own food on-
board.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/tr...assengers.html



I have a large friend who always buys two seats. Ryanair is the only airline
he does not use because the armrests are fixed, so even if he pays for both
he can't even fit in one of them. I must admit I struggle, and would be
concerned by this as whilst I am by no means fat, I am over 17st. It's


Eat more salad.

already damned near impossible for me to fit on one of their planes as I am
6ft 7. I have paid for speedy boarding before in an attempt to get the


Buy your own plane ...

emergency seats, but unfortunately whilst they are supposed to limit the
number of people per flight that they sell this to, they don't. There were
more people holding speedy boarding cards than not last time I flew with
them.


Q: if I have to pay more for my "heavy" laptop, why should you get on
for less than me and my hand luggage?

**** being "PC" Simon, you're a freak and I'll be damned if me and the
other "average" people need to pay for you and your freakish "tall and
huge" type ....


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Old April 23rd, 2009, 07:12 AM posted to rec.sport.rugby.union,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.air
Walter Mitty
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Default Ryanair considers 'fat tax' for obese air passengers

didgerman writes:

Uncle Dave wrote:
On Apr 22, 2:34 pm, La-a-a-a-a-aarry the La-a-a-a-a-a-a-mb
wrote:
Ryanair considers 'fat tax' for obese air passengers
Ryanair may impose a “fat tax” after more than 30,000 passengers voted
to levy charges on overweight passengers.

By Charles Starmer-Smith (Nigel's brother)
Last Updated: 1:36PM BST 22 Apr 2009
Ryanair considers 'fat tax' for obese air passengers
A survey this week showed that 83 per cent of Telegraph Travel readers
are in favour of charging obese passengers for an extra seat Photo:
GETTY IMAGES

The controversial move was announced today after a third of passengers
on the Irish airline’s website voted in favour of charging fees for
obese passengers.


These would be the same passengers who are in favour of mobiles on
planes?


What's wrong with that?


The same as giving mg, bluebird and 5016 internet access,

 




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