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  #32  
Old September 19th, 2004, 01:57 AM
Alan
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:02:43 GMT, Raffi Balmanoukian
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in article , AlmostBob at
wrote on 9/18/04 8:17 PM:

AC, You made so many wrong posts, the water does turn the other way,
clockwise in southern hemisphere, ant clockwise in Northern, for the same
reasons as Hurricanes Cyclones tropical storms do. Of course the fource
involved in the sink is miniscule, so is the amount of water and the scale of
the sink compared to a 100 mile wide storm, you obviously have never lived in
the southern hemisphere nor watched weather reports.



Question: When you swirl Australian wine, which way do you twirl the
glass?


Towards my mouth.

Cheers, Alan
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Old September 19th, 2004, 01:57 AM
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:02:43 GMT, Raffi Balmanoukian
a wrote:

in article , AlmostBob at
wrote on 9/18/04 8:17 PM:

AC, You made so many wrong posts, the water does turn the other way,
clockwise in southern hemisphere, ant clockwise in Northern, for the same
reasons as Hurricanes Cyclones tropical storms do. Of course the fource
involved in the sink is miniscule, so is the amount of water and the scale of
the sink compared to a 100 mile wide storm, you obviously have never lived in
the southern hemisphere nor watched weather reports.



Question: When you swirl Australian wine, which way do you twirl the
glass?


Towards my mouth.

Cheers, Alan
--
  #34  
Old September 19th, 2004, 01:57 AM
Alan
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:02:43 GMT, Raffi Balmanoukian
a wrote:

in article , AlmostBob at
wrote on 9/18/04 8:17 PM:

AC, You made so many wrong posts, the water does turn the other way,
clockwise in southern hemisphere, ant clockwise in Northern, for the same
reasons as Hurricanes Cyclones tropical storms do. Of course the fource
involved in the sink is miniscule, so is the amount of water and the scale of
the sink compared to a 100 mile wide storm, you obviously have never lived in
the southern hemisphere nor watched weather reports.



Question: When you swirl Australian wine, which way do you twirl the
glass?


Towards my mouth.

Cheers, Alan
--
  #35  
Old September 21st, 2004, 12:04 AM
JohnM
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In article , AlmostBob anonymous
writes
AC, You made so many wrong posts, the water does turn the other way,
clockwise in southern hemisphere, ant clockwise in Northern, for the same
reasons as Hurricanes Cyclones tropical storms do. Of course the fource
involved in the sink is miniscule, so is the amount of water and the scale of
the sink compared to a 100 mile wide storm, you obviously have never lived in
the southern hemisphere nor watched weather reports.


From the Urban Legends website

http://www.snopes.com/science/coriolis.htm


Claim: Thanks to the Coriolis effect, toilets flush clockwise in the
northern hemisphere and counterclockwise in the southern.

Status: False.

Origins:

Because the Earth is a globe spinning on an invisible axis, a point at
its equator will make a circuit of 25,000 miles in the space of a day,
but any point not on the equator will make a shorter round trip; the
closer that point is to either of the poles, the shorter its trip will
be. Put another way, a pencil at the equator travels 1,030 miles an
hour, whereas another at Sarasota, Florida, moves at 930 miles per hour,
and one at the North pole doesn't move at all.

This apparent difference in speed results in the Coriolis force, an
effect that imparts a twist to largish events happening away from the
equator. Best known is its effect on air masses: as they move away from
the equator, their speed (which matches that of where they started from)
appears to be faster than that of the surface over which they are
traveling. This sets them turning in a clockwise twist in the northern
hemisphere and a counterclockwise twist in the southern. Likewise, a
cannonball fired due north will veer a teeny bit to the east, and one
fired to the south will deflect ever so slightly to the west, something
a skilled gunner would make an adjustment for.

The twisting effect of the Coriolis force is real and does influence
certain large things like the movement of air masses, but the effect is
so small that it plays no role in determining the direction in which
water rotates as it exits from a draining sink or toilet. The Coriolis
effect produces a measurable effect over huge distances and long periods
of time, neither of which applies to your bathroom. Toilets and sinks
drain in the directions they do because of the way water is directed
into them or pulled from them. If water enters in a swirling motion (as
it does when a toilet is flushed, for example), the water will exit in
that same swirling pattern; as well, most basins have irregular surfaces
and are not perfectly level, factors which influence the direction in
which water spirals down their drains. The configuration of taps and
drains is responsible for the direction of spin given to water draining
from sinks and bathtubs to a degree that overwhelms the slight influence
of the Coriolis force.

The belief that the Coriolis force influences the direction in which
water drains from plumbing fixtures is widespread and has been repeated
as fact in a number of venues, including popular television shows (such
as world traveler Michael Palin's Pole to Pole) and even in textbooks.
We can only speculate on why people are so enamored of this snippet of
misinformation, guessing that it has something to do with the desire to
find some of the mysteries of science in the realm of the everyday.

--
JohnM
Author of Brazil: Life, Blood, Soul
http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/spaver.htm

  #36  
Old September 21st, 2004, 12:04 AM
JohnM
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In article , AlmostBob anonymous
writes
AC, You made so many wrong posts, the water does turn the other way,
clockwise in southern hemisphere, ant clockwise in Northern, for the same
reasons as Hurricanes Cyclones tropical storms do. Of course the fource
involved in the sink is miniscule, so is the amount of water and the scale of
the sink compared to a 100 mile wide storm, you obviously have never lived in
the southern hemisphere nor watched weather reports.


From the Urban Legends website

http://www.snopes.com/science/coriolis.htm


Claim: Thanks to the Coriolis effect, toilets flush clockwise in the
northern hemisphere and counterclockwise in the southern.

Status: False.

Origins:

Because the Earth is a globe spinning on an invisible axis, a point at
its equator will make a circuit of 25,000 miles in the space of a day,
but any point not on the equator will make a shorter round trip; the
closer that point is to either of the poles, the shorter its trip will
be. Put another way, a pencil at the equator travels 1,030 miles an
hour, whereas another at Sarasota, Florida, moves at 930 miles per hour,
and one at the North pole doesn't move at all.

This apparent difference in speed results in the Coriolis force, an
effect that imparts a twist to largish events happening away from the
equator. Best known is its effect on air masses: as they move away from
the equator, their speed (which matches that of where they started from)
appears to be faster than that of the surface over which they are
traveling. This sets them turning in a clockwise twist in the northern
hemisphere and a counterclockwise twist in the southern. Likewise, a
cannonball fired due north will veer a teeny bit to the east, and one
fired to the south will deflect ever so slightly to the west, something
a skilled gunner would make an adjustment for.

The twisting effect of the Coriolis force is real and does influence
certain large things like the movement of air masses, but the effect is
so small that it plays no role in determining the direction in which
water rotates as it exits from a draining sink or toilet. The Coriolis
effect produces a measurable effect over huge distances and long periods
of time, neither of which applies to your bathroom. Toilets and sinks
drain in the directions they do because of the way water is directed
into them or pulled from them. If water enters in a swirling motion (as
it does when a toilet is flushed, for example), the water will exit in
that same swirling pattern; as well, most basins have irregular surfaces
and are not perfectly level, factors which influence the direction in
which water spirals down their drains. The configuration of taps and
drains is responsible for the direction of spin given to water draining
from sinks and bathtubs to a degree that overwhelms the slight influence
of the Coriolis force.

The belief that the Coriolis force influences the direction in which
water drains from plumbing fixtures is widespread and has been repeated
as fact in a number of venues, including popular television shows (such
as world traveler Michael Palin's Pole to Pole) and even in textbooks.
We can only speculate on why people are so enamored of this snippet of
misinformation, guessing that it has something to do with the desire to
find some of the mysteries of science in the realm of the everyday.

--
JohnM
Author of Brazil: Life, Blood, Soul
http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/spaver.htm

  #37  
Old September 21st, 2004, 12:04 AM
JohnM
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In article , AlmostBob anonymous
writes
AC, You made so many wrong posts, the water does turn the other way,
clockwise in southern hemisphere, ant clockwise in Northern, for the same
reasons as Hurricanes Cyclones tropical storms do. Of course the fource
involved in the sink is miniscule, so is the amount of water and the scale of
the sink compared to a 100 mile wide storm, you obviously have never lived in
the southern hemisphere nor watched weather reports.


From the Urban Legends website

http://www.snopes.com/science/coriolis.htm


Claim: Thanks to the Coriolis effect, toilets flush clockwise in the
northern hemisphere and counterclockwise in the southern.

Status: False.

Origins:

Because the Earth is a globe spinning on an invisible axis, a point at
its equator will make a circuit of 25,000 miles in the space of a day,
but any point not on the equator will make a shorter round trip; the
closer that point is to either of the poles, the shorter its trip will
be. Put another way, a pencil at the equator travels 1,030 miles an
hour, whereas another at Sarasota, Florida, moves at 930 miles per hour,
and one at the North pole doesn't move at all.

This apparent difference in speed results in the Coriolis force, an
effect that imparts a twist to largish events happening away from the
equator. Best known is its effect on air masses: as they move away from
the equator, their speed (which matches that of where they started from)
appears to be faster than that of the surface over which they are
traveling. This sets them turning in a clockwise twist in the northern
hemisphere and a counterclockwise twist in the southern. Likewise, a
cannonball fired due north will veer a teeny bit to the east, and one
fired to the south will deflect ever so slightly to the west, something
a skilled gunner would make an adjustment for.

The twisting effect of the Coriolis force is real and does influence
certain large things like the movement of air masses, but the effect is
so small that it plays no role in determining the direction in which
water rotates as it exits from a draining sink or toilet. The Coriolis
effect produces a measurable effect over huge distances and long periods
of time, neither of which applies to your bathroom. Toilets and sinks
drain in the directions they do because of the way water is directed
into them or pulled from them. If water enters in a swirling motion (as
it does when a toilet is flushed, for example), the water will exit in
that same swirling pattern; as well, most basins have irregular surfaces
and are not perfectly level, factors which influence the direction in
which water spirals down their drains. The configuration of taps and
drains is responsible for the direction of spin given to water draining
from sinks and bathtubs to a degree that overwhelms the slight influence
of the Coriolis force.

The belief that the Coriolis force influences the direction in which
water drains from plumbing fixtures is widespread and has been repeated
as fact in a number of venues, including popular television shows (such
as world traveler Michael Palin's Pole to Pole) and even in textbooks.
We can only speculate on why people are so enamored of this snippet of
misinformation, guessing that it has something to do with the desire to
find some of the mysteries of science in the realm of the everyday.

--
JohnM
Author of Brazil: Life, Blood, Soul
http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/spaver.htm

  #38  
Old September 21st, 2004, 01:21 AM
AlmostBob
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Idiot,
I am Australian, you know Down Under, Southern Hemisphere,
now resident in Canada, Northern Hemisphere.
I have actual experience, I do not base my thought on something I have only
read, written by someone else who has no idea what they are speaking about.
Suggest you travel a bit, get some experience, some knowlege, and in general
come back when you get a clue



  #39  
Old September 21st, 2004, 01:21 AM
AlmostBob
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Idiot,
I am Australian, you know Down Under, Southern Hemisphere,
now resident in Canada, Northern Hemisphere.
I have actual experience, I do not base my thought on something I have only
read, written by someone else who has no idea what they are speaking about.
Suggest you travel a bit, get some experience, some knowlege, and in general
come back when you get a clue



  #40  
Old September 22nd, 2004, 04:47 AM
maxi
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after all: is it true or not true?


"AlmostBob" schreef in bericht
...
Idiot,
I am Australian, you know Down Under, Southern Hemisphere,
now resident in Canada, Northern Hemisphere.
I have actual experience, I do not base my thought on something I have
only
read, written by someone else who has no idea what they are speaking
about.
Suggest you travel a bit, get some experience, some knowlege, and in
general
come back when you get a clue





 




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