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Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide
"Raffi Balmanoukian" a
wrote in message news:BC6B9CC4.21697%walkabout@TAKEOUTTHETRASHTOREP LY.ns.sympatico.ca... Following along: It's certainly not NZ's pax who should suffer. Not to Raffi: Do NOT become involved in a safety critical industry. You could kill people with an attitude like yours. Dave I thought it was just my looks that could kill 8-) I still believe NZ overdramatized the situation. If some guy throws himself off a bridge in front of me, it would be his problem not mine.....sure wouldn't let it affect my clients/customers. Imagine you are management. You have some experience with single cases, any large arganisation will have seen this before. You get a phone call asking what policy applies when a whole crew is affected. You have 2 minutes, the timer is running. People will be dissecting you decision for days to come. What do you do? Wheres that policy statement?What do we do? well, whats the answer, one minute, do we go or stay? yes the flight is loading, what, sorry, bad line , yes, most seem okay but a couple are edgy, yes, they say it looked bad, yes, cargo is loading, 10 seconds, do we go? Thats responsibility, a few seconds to decide, days in a courtroom for barristers to question every point. In this cases it isn't just personal responsibilty but responsibility for others. The money or the gun. You may see the jumper as inconvenient. Be thankful for a small mercy. They could easily have engaged in more destructive macho bull*(it behaviour, some plant the pedal and see how fast they can go, some go postal on their workmates or family. 'postal' being from the US post office, actually a very safe place to work, but given their high rate of veteran employment you are more likely to be killed by a workmate than most other industries. |
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Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide
On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 20:18:29 GMT, Raffi Balmanoukian
a wrote: To make a very long story short, I got a first class QF seat LHR-SYD in 2000 which is a bit longer than LAX-SYD but might compare for the purposes of this example. I later found out that on a last-minute basis, it was an AUD$12,000 ticket which, thankfully, was on Air Canada's tab, not mine. Why would that have any vague relevance to anything? Should it? No. Did it? Yes, when they misdirected my bags and tripped over themselves to kiss various anatomical parts while trying to find them. You appear terminally confused by the idea that your experience in 2000 might have the slightest relevance to the topic under discussion, which is cunningly summarized by the "subject" line: "Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide". Malc. |
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Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide
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wrote on 3/3/04 6:46 PM: "Raffi Balmanoukian" a wrote in message news:BC6B9CC4.21697% ... If some guy throws himself off a bridge in front of me, it would be his problem not mine.....sure wouldn't let it affect my clients/customers. What you don't appear to understand is that you don't get to have very much say in it at all. No, but you do get to say whether or not you will let it screw you up or not. Why should I, or my customers/clients/passengers be affected or inconvenienced by some some guy we've not met or known, throwing himself off a bridge? |
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Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide
On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 23:46:02 GMT, Raffi Balmanoukian
a wrote: in article , Malcolm Weir at wrote on 3/3/04 7:32 PM: On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 20:18:29 GMT, Raffi Balmanoukian a wrote: To make a very long story short, I got a first class QF seat LHR-SYD in 2000 which is a bit longer than LAX-SYD but might compare for the purposes of this example. I later found out that on a last-minute basis, it was an AUD$12,000 ticket which, thankfully, was on Air Canada's tab, not mine. Why would that have any vague relevance to anything? Should it? No. Did it? Yes, when they misdirected my bags and tripped over themselves to kiss various anatomical parts while trying to find them. You appear terminally confused by the idea that your experience in 2000 might have the slightest relevance to the topic under discussion, which is cunningly summarized by the "subject" line: "Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide". If you followed the thread, you'd see the above snippets came from an offshoot discussion of the cost NZ would or would not have borne in putting the pax from the cancelled flight on other carriers. If you'd followed the thread, you'd have seen that someone (well, actually me) has noted that there are two alternate flights between LAX and AKL, one of which was operated by a company called Air NZ. Is it beginning to sink in that your experience IS NOT RELEVANT? Malc. |
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"Raffi Balmanoukian" a wrote in message news:BC6BE9B9.216C5%walkabout@TAKEOUTTHETRASHTOREP LY.ns.sympatico.ca... No, but you do get to say whether or not you will let it screw you up or not. sigh Please try to comprehend. You have no say in how deep the hole is going to be in your head if a brick falls on it. Similarly, you have no say in how post-trauma shock is going to affect you. You say you wouldn't let a small matter like someone splatting on your vehicle interfere with your duty to your clients. I say you're in for a surprise. The real world is a lot different to Hollywood. |
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On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 01:04:06 GMT, Raffi Balmanoukian
Aaah, I get you now. Yes, the 12th in the civilized world. You're both mistaken. Here in NZ it's called the ground floor. But in the US, it's called the 1st floor. Floors are numbered. Even the basements are numbered b1, b2, b3 etc. I always get confused here and say "I'm going to the 2nd floor." when I mean the first floor off the ground...since most I've met here call the first floor, the ground floor. Tarla **** A word to the wise is infuriating. --Hunter S. Thompson Nup....in non-N.A. counting, the "regular" 13th floor would be the 12th (ground + 12 stories). So the 14th would be the 13th in non-NA counting....and since 13 is a no-no, 13 becomes 12. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then. I've actually been in many American buildings and seen for myself. Have you? Tarla **** A word to the wise is infuriating. --Hunter S. Thompson |
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