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The United States is actually more dependent on rich people to paytaxes than even many of the more socialized economies of Europe. Thisconclusion is inconsistent with the liberal lie that top earners in the U.S.are not paying their "fair share&q
On Oct 10, 11:29*am, "PJ O'D" wrote:
On Oct 10, 11:59*am, Nickname unavailable wrote: On Oct 10, 2:21*am, "PJ O'D" wrote: The United States is actually more dependent on rich people to pay taxes than even many of the more socialized economies of Europe. According to the Tax Foundation, the United States gets 45 percent of its total taxes from the top 10 percent of tax filers, whereas the international average in industrialized nations is 32 percent. America’s rich carry a larger share of the tax burden than do the rich in Belgium (25 percent), Germany (31 percent), France (28 percent), and even Sweden (27 percent). http://taxfoundation.org/blog/no-cou...come-household.... This conclusion is inconsistent with the liberal mantra that top earners in the U.S. are not paying their "fair share" in taxes. *you are using statistics to lie as usual. as the wealthy get ever richer, and the middle class disappears, more and more people are removed from the tax rolls due to poverty, it skews upwards the percentage of what the rich pay. *you are a wealth worshiping shill. you will be exposed as one also. Table 4.5. Alternative measures of progressivity of taxes in selected OECD countries, mid-2000s B. Percentage share of richest decile 1. Share of taxes of richest decile 2. Share of market income of richest decile 3. Ratio of shares for richest decile (1/2) United States 45.1 33.5 1.35 OECD-24 31.6 28.4 1.11 and the really getting ever richer few, and the really getting poorer many, skews the statistics paid shill. |
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The United States is actually more dependent on rich people to paytaxes than even many of the more socialized economies of Europe. Thisconclusion is inconsistent with the liberal lie that top earners in the U.S.are not paying their "fair share&q
On Oct 10, 12:29*pm, "PJ O'D" wrote:
On Oct 10, 11:59*am, Nickname unavailable wrote: On Oct 10, 2:21*am, "PJ O'D" wrote: The United States is actually more dependent on rich people to pay taxes than even many of the more socialized economies of Europe. According to the Tax Foundation, the United States gets 45 percent of its total taxes from the top 10 percent of tax filers, whereas the international average in industrialized nations is 32 percent. America’s rich carry a larger share of the tax burden than do the rich in Belgium (25 percent), Germany (31 percent), France (28 percent), and even Sweden (27 percent). http://taxfoundation.org/blog/no-cou...come-household.... This conclusion is inconsistent with the liberal mantra that top earners in the U.S. are not paying their "fair share" in taxes. *you are using statistics to lie as usual. as the wealthy get ever richer, and the middle class disappears, more and more people are removed from the tax rolls due to poverty, it skews upwards the percentage of what the rich pay. *you are a wealth worshiping shill. you will be exposed as one also. Table 4.5. Alternative measures of progressivity of taxes in selected OECD countries, mid-2000s B. Percentage share of richest decile 1. Share of taxes of richest decile 2. Share of market income of richest decile 3. Ratio of shares for richest decile (1/2) United States 45.1 33.5 1.35 OECD-24 31.6 28.4 1.11 |
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The United States is actually more dependent on rich people to paytaxes than even many of the more socialized economies of Europe. Thisconclusion is inconsistent with the liberal lie that top earners in the U.S.are not paying their "fair share&q
On Oct 11, 4:02*am, "PJ O'D" wrote:
On Oct 10, 12:29*pm, "PJ O'D" wrote: On Oct 10, 11:59*am, Nickname unavailable wrote: On Oct 10, 2:21*am, "PJ O'D" wrote: The United States is actually more dependent on rich people to pay taxes than even many of the more socialized economies of Europe. According to the Tax Foundation, the United States gets 45 percent of its total taxes from the top 10 percent of tax filers, whereas the international average in industrialized nations is 32 percent. America’s rich carry a larger share of the tax burden than do the rich in Belgium (25 percent), Germany (31 percent), France (28 percent), and even Sweden (27 percent). http://taxfoundation.org/blog/no-cou...come-household... This conclusion is inconsistent with the liberal mantra that top earners in the U.S. are not paying their "fair share" in taxes. *you are using statistics to lie as usual. as the wealthy get ever richer, and the middle class disappears, more and more people are removed from the tax rolls due to poverty, it skews upwards the percentage of what the rich pay. *you are a wealth worshiping shill. you will be exposed as one also.. Table 4.5. Alternative measures of progressivity of taxes in selected OECD countries, mid-2000s B. Percentage share of richest decile 1. Share of taxes of richest decile 2. Share of market income of richest decile 3. Ratio of shares for richest decile (1/2) United States 45.1 33.5 1.35 OECD-24 31.6 28.4 1.11 |
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The United States is actually more dependent on rich people to pay taxes.
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:06:19 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill wrote:
The United States is actually more dependent on rich people to pay taxes than even many of the more socialized economies of Europe. According to the Tax Foundation, the United States gets 45 percent of its total taxes from the top 10 percent of tax filers, whereas the international average in industrialized nations is 32 percent. America’s rich carry a larger share of the tax burden than do the rich in Belgium (25 percent), Germany (31 percent), France (28 percent), and even Sweden (27 percent). http://taxfoundation.org/blog/no-cou...come-household... This conclusion is inconsistent with the liberal mantra that top earners in the U.S. are not paying their "fair share" in taxes. *you are using statistics to lie as usual. as the wealthy get ever richer, and the middle class disappears, more and more people are removed from the tax rolls due to poverty, it skews upwards the percentage of what the rich pay. *you are a wealth worshiping shill. you will be exposed as one also. Today's rich never acquired their wealth in a free market free trade economy anyway, but through the artificial job shortage scam. Sam Walton Bill Gates Steve Jobs Warren Buffett Larry Ellison Michael Bloomberg Jeff Bezos Sheldon Adelson Sergey Brin Larry Page George Soros Steve Ballmer Paul Allen Michael Dell Phil Knight Len Blavatnik Jack Taylor Mark Zuckerberg Ross Perot Charles Ergen Pierre Omidyar Eric Schmidt James Goodnight Patrick Soon-Shiong Charles Butt That's the short list of the first 50 richest people in the U.S. who are all SELF-MADE. To see the other 350 richest people in the U.S. go to http://www.forbes.com/profile/charles-butt/ and continue searching looking for those who are SELF-MADE That's why outspoken economists always dodge The Question, "Does free speech precede each and every free trade?" Since we do not live in a Muslim theocracy or socialism, free speech is a given. See -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_A...s_Constitution Planet Visitor II Bret Cahill |
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The United States is actually more dependent on rich people topay taxes.
The United States is actually more dependent on rich people to pay
taxes than even many of the more socialized economies of Europe. According to the Tax Foundation, the United States gets 45 percent of its total taxes from the top 10 percent of tax filers, whereas the international average in industrialized nations is 32 percent. America s rich carry a larger share of the tax burden than do the rich in Belgium (25 percent), Germany (31 percent), France (28 percent), and even Sweden (27 percent). http://taxfoundation.org/blog/no-cou...come-household... This conclusion is inconsistent with the liberal mantra that top earners in the U.S. are not paying their "fair share" in taxes. you are using statistics to lie as usual. as the wealthy get ever richer, and the middle class disappears, more and more people are removed from the tax rolls due to poverty, it skews upwards the percentage of what the rich pay. you are a wealth worshiping shill. you will be exposed as one also. Today's rich never acquired their wealth in a free market free trade economy anyway, but through the artificial job shortage scam. Sam Walton Bill Gates Steve Jobs Warren Buffett Larry Ellison Michael Bloomberg Jeff Bezos Sheldon Adelson Sergey Brin Larry Page George Soros Steve Ballmer Paul Allen Michael Dell Phil Knight Len Blavatnik Jack Taylor Mark Zuckerberg Ross Perot Charles Ergen Pierre Omidyar Eric Schmidt James Goodnight Patrick Soon-Shiong Charles Butt That's the short list of the first 50 richest people in the U.S. who are all SELF-MADE. All entirely or partially dependent on censorship/the GOP artificial job shortage scam for their great disparity of wealth. Bret Cahill |
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The United States is actually more dependent on rich people to pay taxes.
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:22:08 -0700 (PDT), Nickname unavailable wrote:
On Oct 11, 9:28*am, Planet Visitor II wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:06:19 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill wrote: The United States is actually more dependent on rich people to pay taxes than even many of the more socialized economies of Europe. According to the Tax Foundation, the United States gets 45 percent of its total taxes from the top 10 percent of tax filers, whereas the international average in industrialized nations is 32 percent. America s rich carry a larger share of the tax burden than do the rich in Belgium (25 percent), Germany (31 percent), France (28 percent), and even Sweden (27 percent). http://taxfoundation.org/blog/no-cou...come-household... This conclusion is inconsistent with the liberal mantra that top earners in the U.S. are not paying their "fair share" in taxes. you are using statistics to lie as usual. as the wealthy get ever richer, and the middle class disappears, more and more people are removed from the tax rolls due to poverty, it skews upwards the percentage of what the rich pay. you are a wealth worshiping shill. you will be exposed as one also. Today's rich never acquired their wealth in a free market free trade economy anyway, but through the artificial job shortage scam. Sam Walton Bill Gates Steve Jobs Warren Buffett Larry Ellison Michael Bloomberg Jeff Bezos Sheldon Adelson Sergey Brin Larry Page George Soros Steve Ballmer Paul Allen Michael Dell Phil Knight Len Blavatnik Jack Taylor Mark Zuckerberg Ross Perot Charles Ergen Pierre Omidyar Eric Schmidt James Goodnight Patrick Soon-Shiong Charles Butt That's the short list of the first 50 richest people in the U.S. who are all SELF-MADE. To see the other 350 richest people in the U.S. go tohttp://www.forbes.com/profile/charles-butt/ and continue searching looking for those who are SELF-MADE That's why outspoken economists always dodge The Question, "Does free speech precede each and every free trade?" Since we do not live in a Muslim theocracy or socialism, free speech is a given. *See --http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Con... Planet Visitor II Bret Cahill "THE CONSERVATIVE " myth of the self made rich:40% of the Forbes 400 richest Americans inherited a sizeable asset from a spouse or family member:How Many of Forbes 400 Are Really 'Self-Made'? Which means 60% are self-made. Considering that Europe's old rich number around 80%, 60% self-made seems pretty good for capitalism. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/many-f...3Rpb25z;_ylv=3 How Many of Forbes 400 Are Really 'Self-Made'? By Robert Frank | CNBC*–*5 hours ago And who is Robert Frank??? Oh, wait... Wikipedia has the answer --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocksucker_Blues Quote: "Cocksucker Blues is an unreleased documentary film directed by the noted still photographer Robert Frank..." UNQUOTE. ROTFLMAO. Planet Visitor II |
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The United States is actually more dependent on rich people topay taxes.
On Oct 11, 11:45*pm, Planet Visitor II wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:22:08 -0700 (PDT), Nickname unavailable wrote: On Oct 11, 9:28 am, Planet Visitor II wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:06:19 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill wrote: The United States is actually more dependent on rich people to pay taxes than even many of the more socialized economies of Europe. According to the Tax Foundation, the United States gets 45 percent of its total taxes from the top 10 percent of tax filers, whereas the international average in industrialized nations is 32 percent. America s rich carry a larger share of the tax burden than do the rich in Belgium (25 percent), Germany (31 percent), France (28 percent), and even Sweden (27 percent). http://taxfoundation.org/blog/no-cou...come-household... This conclusion is inconsistent with the liberal mantra that top earners in the U.S. are not paying their "fair share" in taxes. you are using statistics to lie as usual. as the wealthy get ever richer, and the middle class disappears, more and more people are removed from the tax rolls due to poverty, it skews upwards the percentage of what the rich pay. you are a wealth worshiping shill. you will be exposed as one also. Today's rich never acquired their wealth in a free market free trade economy anyway, but through the artificial job shortage scam. Sam Walton Bill Gates Steve Jobs Warren Buffett Larry Ellison Michael Bloomberg Jeff Bezos Sheldon Adelson Sergey Brin Larry Page George Soros Steve Ballmer Paul Allen Michael Dell Phil Knight Len Blavatnik Jack Taylor Mark Zuckerberg Ross Perot Charles Ergen Pierre Omidyar Eric Schmidt James Goodnight Patrick Soon-Shiong Charles Butt That's the short list of the first 50 richest people in the U.S. who are all SELF-MADE. To see the other 350 richest people in the U.S. go tohttp://www.forbes..com/profile/charles-butt/ and continue searching looking for those who are SELF-MADE That's why outspoken economists always dodge The Question, "Does free speech precede each and every free trade?" Since we do not live in a Muslim theocracy or socialism, free speech is a given. See --http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Con... Planet Visitor II Bret Cahill "THE CONSERVATIVE " myth of the self made rich:40% of the Forbes 400 richest Americans inherited a sizeable asset from a spouse or family member:How Many of Forbes 400 Are Really 'Self-Made'? Which means 60% are self-made. *Considering that Europe's old rich number around 80%, 60% self-made seems pretty good for capitalism. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/many-f...lf-204426982.h... How Many of Forbes 400 Are Really 'Self-Made'? By Robert Frank | CNBC 5 hours ago And who is Robert Frank??? *Oh, wait... Wikipedia has the answer ---http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocksucker_Blues Quote: "Cocksucker Blues is an unreleased documentary film directed by the noted still photographer Robert Frank..." *UNQUOTE. ROTFLMAO. Planet Visitor II yet self made does not let them off the hook to pay their fair share for the system that made them rich. attacking is not refuting. sorry loser, i won again)) Common Wealth and the "Entirely Self-Made" Myth:An inconvenient Truth Forbes and the economic class it represents would like us to forget that wealth always depends on collective effort http://www.satireandcomment.com/sc1107selfmademyth.html Common Wealth and the "Entirely Self-Made" Myth by Michael Schwalbe (Michael Schwalbe is a professor of sociology at North Carolina State University. This article is published with his permission.) Managing Public Opinion Every year since 1982 Forbes magazine has published a list of the 400 richest Americans. Anyone who wants to attach names and faces to the abstract notion of a "ruling class" should pick up a copy of the October 8, 2007, special issue. In profiling these richest of the rich, Forbes serves its self-proclaimed function as a "capitalist tool" -- not by offering advice on management strategies but by helping to manage popular consciousness. Such management is necessary in a country where 1% of the population owns nearly 40% of the wealth. Lest this egregiously skewed distribution of resources evoke too many moral qualms, Forbes assures us, issue after issue, that economic inequality is the result of a fair game in which the smartest and hardest-working naturally rise to the top. Forbes tells us, for instance, that of those 400 richest Americans, 270, or about two-thirds, are "entirely self-made." Yes, they say "entirely." The Self Made Myth This doesn't mean, as one might think, that these fortunate folks came from abject poverty and fought their way up. In fact, most of those whom Forbes calls "entirely self-made" came from what working-class Americans would see as country club backgrounds. Typically, these billionaires (it takes $1.3 billion just to get on the list) came from homes with abundant resources and well-educated parents, and they went to top schools themselves. They are nearly all white. What Forbes means by "entirely self-made" is that the fortunes were not inherited but derived from business activity. Does this make the Forbes definition of "entirely self-made" reasonable? After all, if someone starts with modest resources, does well in business, and makes a fortune, isn't it fair to attribute that wealth to individual merit? Not really, though Forbes would like us to think so. How "Self-Made" are these "Self-Made" muillionaires? To see what's wrong with this idea, it's easiest to start with criteria that ought to disqualify a person from claiming to be "entirely self-made." After we've applied these criteria, we can see who's left in the pool. So, then, let us scratch from the list of the self-made anyone whose accumulation of wealth has been aided by any of the following: • Laws concerning property or contracts, and the public agencies that enforce such laws • Public schools or employees educated in public schools • Employees or customers who rely on public transportation • Roads, bridges, airports, sewers, water treatment plants, harbors, or other utilities built and maintained at public expense • Mail systems built and operated at public expense • Public hospitals and government-licensed physicians • Health and safety regulations created and enforced at public expense • Police and fire protection provided at public expense • Public libraries and parks • Any public amenities that add value to commercial or residential real estate • Government contracts • Government-provided business incentives • Regulatory agencies, such as the Federal Trade Commission or the Securities and Exchange Commission, that sustain trust in the stock market • A government-granted license permitting the exclusive use of a broadcast channel • The Internet • A form of currency legitimated and backed by a stable government • Social welfare programs that keep the poor from rebelling • The U.S. military If we use these criteria to determine who can legitimately claim to be "entirely self-made," the Forbes number drops dramatically. It's not 270 out of 400. In fact, it's precisely zero. If not for the legal and political arrangements that we create and maintain as a society -- with contributions from us all, costs to us all, and benefits to us all -- and if not for what we call "the public infrastructure," nobody could accumulate wealth. In short, there can be no private wealth without common wealth. An inconvenient Truth Forbes and the economic class it represents would like us to forget that wealth always depends on collective effort. Why? Because of what the "entirely self-made" myth implies: If I have amassed a fortune solely through my individual talent and hard work, then it is wrong for the government to take any of it away. By further implication, taxation is wrong, and progressive taxation is really wrong. Casting "the government" as an evil entity that confiscates the fruits of one's labors also serves the interests of the Forbes class. Working- class and middle-class people who embrace this view are less likely to take an interest in government as a means to build, protect, and fairly employ the nation's common wealth. By helping to portray government as the enemy of individual initiative and prosperity, the "entirely self-made" myth thus also saps the spirit of democracy, leaving government ever more in the control of the wealthy. A Myth that hides class difference In a competitive, individualistic society like the U.S., the "entirely self-made" myth is seductive. It gives us the pleasure of taking credit for our successes. It also mitigates the guilt that can come from recognizing our own class privilege. The "entirely self-made" myth is handy for both self-congratulation and self-absolution. But we should reject the myth -- not just because it's wrong, but because, unlike many other comforting myths about American society, this one has especially pernicious consequences for democracy and community. At worst, it can make us feel that we have no right to democratic control of our common wealth. If we recognize that all private wealth depends on our common wealth, then we incur two obligations. One is to contribute our fair share -- and the bigger the rewards we derive from society, the bigger that share should be. The other obligation is to participate in protecting our common wealth and determining how it is used. We should not let those decisions be made only by those who sell us a self-serving myth and then laugh all the way to the bank. Michael Schwalbe is sociology professor at North Carolina State University. His most recent book is: Rigging the Game: How Inequality Is Reproduced in Everyday Life (Oxford University Press). He can be reached at . |
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On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 22:37:34 -0700 (PDT), Nickname unavailable wrote:
On Oct 11, 11:45*pm, Planet Visitor II wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:22:08 -0700 (PDT), Nickname unavailable wrote: On Oct 11, 9:28 am, Planet Visitor II wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:06:19 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill wrote: The United States is actually more dependent on rich people to pay taxes than even many of the more socialized economies of Europe. According to the Tax Foundation, the United States gets 45 percent of its total taxes from the top 10 percent of tax filers, whereas the international average in industrialized nations is 32 percent. America s rich carry a larger share of the tax burden than do the rich in Belgium (25 percent), Germany (31 percent), France (28 percent), and even Sweden (27 percent). http://taxfoundation.org/blog/no-cou...come-household... This conclusion is inconsistent with the liberal mantra that top earners in the U.S. are not paying their "fair share" in taxes. you are using statistics to lie as usual. as the wealthy get ever richer, and the middle class disappears, more and more people are removed from the tax rolls due to poverty, it skews upwards the percentage of what the rich pay. you are a wealth worshiping shill. you will be exposed as one also. Today's rich never acquired their wealth in a free market free trade economy anyway, but through the artificial job shortage scam. Sam Walton Bill Gates Steve Jobs Warren Buffett Larry Ellison Michael Bloomberg Jeff Bezos Sheldon Adelson Sergey Brin Larry Page George Soros Steve Ballmer Paul Allen Michael Dell Phil Knight Len Blavatnik Jack Taylor Mark Zuckerberg Ross Perot Charles Ergen Pierre Omidyar Eric Schmidt James Goodnight Patrick Soon-Shiong Charles Butt That's the short list of the first 50 richest people in the U.S. who are all SELF-MADE. To see the other 350 richest people in the U.S. go tohttp://www.forbes.com/profile/charles-butt/ and continue searching looking for those who are SELF-MADE That's why outspoken economists always dodge The Question, "Does free speech precede each and every free trade?" Since we do not live in a Muslim theocracy or socialism, free speech is a given. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_A...ted_States_Con... Planet Visitor II Bret Cahill "THE CONSERVATIVE " myth of the self made rich:40% of the Forbes 400 richest Americans inherited a sizeable asset from a spouse or family member:How Many of Forbes 400 Are Really 'Self-Made'? Which means 60% are self-made. *Considering that Europe's old rich number around 80%, 60% self-made seems pretty good for capitalism. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/many-f...lf-204426982.h... How Many of Forbes 400 Are Really 'Self-Made'? By Robert Frank | CNBC 5 hours ago And who is Robert Frank??? *Oh, wait... Wikipedia has the answer -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocksucker_Blues Quote: "Cocksucker Blues is an unreleased documentary film directed by the noted still photographer Robert Frank..." *UNQUOTE. ROTFLMAO. Planet Visitor II yet self made does not let them off the hook to pay their fair share for the system that made them rich. attacking is not refuting. sorry loser, i won again)) Common Wealth and the "Entirely Self-Made" Myth:An inconvenient Truth Forbes and the economic class it represents would like us to forget that wealth always depends on collective effort Apology accepted. Planet Visitor II |
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On Oct 12, 10:32*pm, Planet Visitor II wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 22:37:34 -0700 (PDT), Nickname unavailable wrote: On Oct 11, 11:45 pm, Planet Visitor II wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:22:08 -0700 (PDT), Nickname unavailable wrote: On Oct 11, 9:28 am, Planet Visitor II wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:06:19 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill wrote: The United States is actually more dependent on rich people to pay taxes than even many of the more socialized economies of Europe. According to the Tax Foundation, the United States gets 45 percent of its total taxes from the top 10 percent of tax filers, whereas the international average in industrialized nations is 32 percent. America s rich carry a larger share of the tax burden than do the rich in Belgium (25 percent), Germany (31 percent), France (28 percent), and even Sweden (27 percent). http://taxfoundation.org/blog/no-cou...come-household... This conclusion is inconsistent with the liberal mantra that top earners in the U.S. are not paying their "fair share" in taxes.. you are using statistics to lie as usual. as the wealthy get ever richer, and the middle class disappears, more and more people are removed from the tax rolls due to poverty, it skews upwards the percentage of what the rich pay. you are a wealth worshiping shill. you will be exposed as one also. Today's rich never acquired their wealth in a free market free trade economy anyway, but through the artificial job shortage scam. Sam Walton Bill Gates Steve Jobs Warren Buffett Larry Ellison Michael Bloomberg Jeff Bezos Sheldon Adelson Sergey Brin Larry Page George Soros Steve Ballmer Paul Allen Michael Dell Phil Knight Len Blavatnik Jack Taylor Mark Zuckerberg Ross Perot Charles Ergen Pierre Omidyar Eric Schmidt James Goodnight Patrick Soon-Shiong Charles Butt That's the short list of the first 50 richest people in the U.S. who are all SELF-MADE. To see the other 350 richest people in the U.S. go tohttp://www.forbes.com/profile/charles-butt/ and continue searching looking for those who are SELF-MADE That's why outspoken economists always dodge The Question, "Does free speech precede each and every free trade?" Since we do not live in a Muslim theocracy or socialism, free speech is a given. Seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Con... Planet Visitor II Bret Cahill "THE CONSERVATIVE " myth of the self made rich:40% of the Forbes 400 richest Americans inherited a sizeable asset from a spouse or family member:How Many of Forbes 400 Are Really 'Self-Made'? Which means 60% are self-made. Considering that Europe's old rich number around 80%, 60% self-made seems pretty good for capitalism. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/many-f...lf-204426982.h.... How Many of Forbes 400 Are Really 'Self-Made'? By Robert Frank | CNBC 5 hours ago And who is Robert Frank??? Oh, wait... Wikipedia has the answer -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocksucker_Blues Quote: "Cocksucker Blues is an unreleased documentary film directed by the noted still photographer Robert Frank..." UNQUOTE. ROTFLMAO. Planet Visitor II yet self made does not let them off the hook to pay their fair share for the system that made them rich. attacking is not refuting. sorry loser, i won again)) Common Wealth and the "Entirely Self-Made" Myth:An inconvenient Truth Forbes and the economic class it represents would like us to forget that wealth always depends on collective effort Apology accepted. Planet Visitor II no apology needed. you simply will not let reality trump ideology))))) |
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On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 22:29:27 -0700 (PDT), Nickname unavailable wrote:
On Oct 12, 10:32*pm, Planet Visitor II wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 22:37:34 -0700 (PDT), Nickname unavailable wrote: On Oct 11, 11:45 pm, Planet Visitor II wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:22:08 -0700 (PDT), Nickname unavailable wrote: On Oct 11, 9:28 am, Planet Visitor II wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:06:19 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill wrote: The United States is actually more dependent on rich people to pay taxes than even many of the more socialized economies of Europe. According to the Tax Foundation, the United States gets 45 percent of its total taxes from the top 10 percent of tax filers, whereas the international average in industrialized nations is 32 percent. America s rich carry a larger share of the tax burden than do the rich in Belgium (25 percent), Germany (31 percent), France (28 percent), and even Sweden (27 percent). http://taxfoundation.org/blog/no-cou...come-household... This conclusion is inconsistent with the liberal mantra that top earners in the U.S. are not paying their "fair share" in taxes. you are using statistics to lie as usual. as the wealthy get ever richer, and the middle class disappears, more and more people are removed from the tax rolls due to poverty, it skews upwards the percentage of what the rich pay. you are a wealth worshiping shill. you will be exposed as one also. Today's rich never acquired their wealth in a free market free trade economy anyway, but through the artificial job shortage scam. Sam Walton Bill Gates Steve Jobs Warren Buffett Larry Ellison Michael Bloomberg Jeff Bezos Sheldon Adelson Sergey Brin Larry Page George Soros Steve Ballmer Paul Allen Michael Dell Phil Knight Len Blavatnik Jack Taylor Mark Zuckerberg Ross Perot Charles Ergen Pierre Omidyar Eric Schmidt James Goodnight Patrick Soon-Shiong Charles Butt That's the short list of the first 50 richest people in the U.S. who are all SELF-MADE. To see the other 350 richest people in the U.S. go tohttp://www.forbes.com/profile/charles-butt/ and continue searching looking for those who are SELF-MADE That's why outspoken economists always dodge The Question, "Does free speech precede each and every free trade?" Since we do not live in a Muslim theocracy or socialism, free speech is a given. Seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Con... Planet Visitor II Bret Cahill "THE CONSERVATIVE " myth of the self made rich:40% of the Forbes 400 richest Americans inherited a sizeable asset from a spouse or family member:How Many of Forbes 400 Are Really 'Self-Made'? Which means 60% are self-made. Considering that Europe's old rich number around 80%, 60% self-made seems pretty good for capitalism. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/many-f...lf-204426982.h... How Many of Forbes 400 Are Really 'Self-Made'? By Robert Frank | CNBC 5 hours ago And who is Robert Frank??? Oh, wait... Wikipedia has the answer -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocksucker_Blues Quote: "Cocksucker Blues is an unreleased documentary film directed by the noted still photographer Robert Frank..." UNQUOTE. ROTFLMAO. Planet Visitor II yet self made does not let them off the hook to pay their fair share for the system that made them rich. attacking is not refuting. sorry loser, i won again)) Common Wealth and the "Entirely Self-Made" Myth:An inconvenient Truth Forbes and the economic class it represents would like us to forget that wealth always depends on collective effort Apology accepted. Planet Visitor II no apology needed. I know. You could have instead offered something that might have made me work for it. But you offered nothing less than an apology instead. I guess you had nothing to work with. you simply will not let reality trump ideology))))) The only ideology here is your religious support for socialism, and hate for those who have made something of themselves; believing they should simply give everything to those such as you, living empty worthless lives as spendthrifts on other people's money. Planet Visitor II |
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