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Juliana L Holm wrote:

I don't know if I'm the only one. I don't know Karen, but I'm not at
all pleased about the ongoing, at length public skewering of her
going on.

Juliana, I have always valued your opinion, but right now, I have to
disagree with you. If you want to spank someone, you need to start with
Karen, that is where the problem began. You may not remember the
wonderful people who used to post messages here 8 years ago. They are
in the GGC0000 group, where they can post messages without Karen
attacking them.

Most of the people in this group, myself included, would never say an
unkind word to anyone. Have you ever noticed us doing that? No, because
we don't. How bad does it have to get before people are fed up with
her? How much abuse do you think we should tolerate? She will not quit
picking on people, no matter what anyone says or does. If everybody is
picking on Karen, maybe there is a reason.

Karen brought strangers into this group, to torment her victims. She
prefers to use men to do her dirty work, because women are too nice.
Trust me, there is always a willing sap who will post anonymous messages
for her. As soon as someone smites Karen, her minion will step forward
to defend her. Just wait, you will see them. I am sure sparks were
flying from her keyboard, as she pleaded for their help.

Notice the people who speak to Karen, they are very few. Most people
have her killfiled, because she is a trouble maker. She rarely talks
about cruising, so I am not missing anything by not reading her posts.
People are still complaining about her, so I know she has not changed
her wicked ways.

You said Karen was not a troll. The definition of troll from Wikipedia:
Portrayed in Scandinavian folklore and children's tales, which are often
ugly, obnoxious creatures bent on wickedness and mischief.

"Bent on wickedness and mischief." That is Karen.

Sorry, Juliana, we have to disagree on this one.

Becca

Karen,

I see you are showing your CL-ASS again! LOL LOL

Tobieon an Island in the Pacific

"Karen " wrote in message
...


I wanted no more to do with this nonsense, but Becca leaves me no
choice but to answer some of this garbage. I think that's what she's
fishin' for anyway:

Becca wrote:

Juliana, I have always valued your opinion, but right now, I have to
disagree with you. If you want to spank someone, you need to start with
Karen, that is where the problem began. You may not remember the
wonderful people who used to post messages here 8 years ago. They are
in the GGC0000 group, where they can post messages without Karen
attacking them.

Read what you just typed, Becca. A whole Yahoogroup devoted to
anti-Karen. Make no mistake, that is the place where all of us get
talked about behind our Usenet backs. Don't make it something more
noble than it is, Becca. You've got your own catty secret club house.
You must be very proud of yourself.

And I assure you, you have many leaks in the roof of that clubhouse.

Most of the people in this group, myself included, would never say an
unkind word to anyone. Have you ever noticed us doing that? No, because
we don't.

Are you kidding? Someone named "Tobie" (I'm sorry, but I don't know
if this is a man or a woman) jumped all over me the other day for no
other reason but to join the pile-on. To my knowledge, I have never
answered a post from this "Toby", have never responded to them in any
way and have never communicated with them in e-mail. There have also
been other posters ... your friends ... in the last few days who have
shot your hypothesis to bits. The theory you're trying to forward is
simply NOT true.

Sometimes, the most seemingly innocuous persons, the sugar sweeties
and the cute little old ladies, are the most obnoxious, albeit not in
an overt way. In the case of one in particular, though, a VERY overt
way. Those are the ones to be wary of. Never be worried about the
straightforward posters or the ones who tell it like it is. I think a
lot of regulars and lurkers know that already.

Karen brought strangers into this group, to torment her victims. She
prefers to use men to do her dirty work, because women are too nice.
Trust me, there is always a willing sap who will post anonymous messages
for her. As soon as someone smites Karen, her minion will step forward
to defend her. Just wait, you will see them. I am sure sparks were
flying from her keyboard, as she pleaded for their help.

This is hilarious. I'm a graying 57 year retired civil servant, and
Becca has me down as some kind of Usenet femme fatale who has a bevy
of Usenet hunks waiting in the wings to post anonymously for me. At
least I don't send erotic poetry out to any new male who posts here.
Becca knows about that, don't you, Becca. Hans and some others got
some of that years ago when they first showed up. One guy even asked
you publicly to knock it off.

While I'm at it, let me also say one thing once and forever: I post
as Karen, with or without my last name, and I have also posted as
"CupCaked." I may again in the future, should the whim strike me. I
do NOT post anonymously. I am aware of efforts to make posts look
like they came from me. One of The Others is regularly posting about
my ship sig in an anon post. I remember that post. It was not from
me. If there's a post about you that you don't like, Becca, I think
you're going to have to entertain the notion that it's from someone
else who doesn't like you.

Notice the people who speak to Karen, they are very few. Most people
have her killfiled, because she is a trouble maker. She rarely talks
about cruising, so I am not missing anything by not reading her posts.
People are still complaining about her, so I know she has not changed
her wicked ways.

If you have me killfiled, how do you know what I talk about or to
whom? Let me assure anyone reading this that The Others keep a strict
log of who does what here.

Think before you hit the keyboard, Becca. Or have one of The Others
do it for you.

Karen



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(...and leave off the nice ship to e-mail)

Karen, your message was quoted in George's post, this message was quoted
in Tobie's. The only time I see your messages is when someone quotes
you. You have been killfiled for about 7 years but you refuse to believe
it.

There are over 200 members in the GGC0000 Yahoo group, all of them came
from rec.travel.cruises. The Yahoo group is not devoted to you, Karen,
your name has not been mentioned once in the group. Ask Ray, he is a
member. We are free to share our joys and concerns, without trouble
makers causing problems.

Please move on, Karen. I do not talk about you and I have nothing to do
with you. Your obsession with me has gone way too far. Have a good
life and I wish you the best.

Becca


Tobie Gerbrandt wrote:

Karen,

I see you are showing your CL-ASS again! LOL LOL

Tobieon an Island in the Pacific

"Karen " wrote in message
...


I wanted no more to do with this nonsense, but Becca leaves me no
choice but to answer some of this garbage. I think that's what she's
fishin' for anyway:

Becca wrote:


Juliana, I have always valued your opinion, but right now, I have to
disagree with you. If you want to spank someone, you need to start with
Karen, that is where the problem began. You may not remember the
wonderful people who used to post messages here 8 years ago. They are
in the GGC0000 group, where they can post messages without Karen
attacking them.

Read what you just typed, Becca. A whole Yahoogroup devoted to
anti-Karen. Make no mistake, that is the place where all of us get
talked about behind our Usenet backs. Don't make it something more
noble than it is, Becca. You've got your own catty secret club house.
You must be very proud of yourself.

And I assure you, you have many leaks in the roof of that clubhouse.


Most of the people in this group, myself included, would never say an
unkind word to anyone. Have you ever noticed us doing that? No, because
we don't.

Are you kidding? Someone named "Tobie" (I'm sorry, but I don't know
if this is a man or a woman) jumped all over me the other day for no
other reason but to join the pile-on. To my knowledge, I have never
answered a post from this "Toby", have never responded to them in any
way and have never communicated with them in e-mail. There have also
been other posters ... your friends ... in the last few days who have
shot your hypothesis to bits. The theory you're trying to forward is
simply NOT true.

Sometimes, the most seemingly innocuous persons, the sugar sweeties
and the cute little old ladies, are the most obnoxious, albeit not in
an overt way. In the case of one in particular, though, a VERY overt
way. Those are the ones to be wary of. Never be worried about the
straightforward posters or the ones who tell it like it is. I think a
lot of regulars and lurkers know that already.


Karen brought strangers into this group, to torment her victims. She
prefers to use men to do her dirty work, because women are too nice.
Trust me, there is always a willing sap who will post anonymous messages
for her. As soon as someone smites Karen, her minion will step forward
to defend her. Just wait, you will see them. I am sure sparks were
flying from her keyboard, as she pleaded for their help.

This is hilarious. I'm a graying 57 year retired civil servant, and
Becca has me down as some kind of Usenet femme fatale who has a bevy
of Usenet hunks waiting in the wings to post anonymously for me. At
least I don't send erotic poetry out to any new male who posts here.
Becca knows about that, don't you, Becca. Hans and some others got
some of that years ago when they first showed up. One guy even asked
you publicly to knock it off.

While I'm at it, let me also say one thing once and forever: I post
as Karen, with or without my last name, and I have also posted as
"CupCaked." I may again in the future, should the whim strike me. I
do NOT post anonymously. I am aware of efforts to make posts look
like they came from me. One of The Others is regularly posting about
my ship sig in an anon post. I remember that post. It was not from
me. If there's a post about you that you don't like, Becca, I think
you're going to have to entertain the notion that it's from someone
else who doesn't like you.


Notice the people who speak to Karen, they are very few. Most people
have her killfiled, because she is a trouble maker. She rarely talks
about cruising, so I am not missing anything by not reading her posts.
People are still complaining about her, so I know she has not changed
her wicked ways.

If you have me killfiled, how do you know what I talk about or to
whom? Let me assure anyone reading this that The Others keep a strict
log of who does what here.

Think before you hit the keyboard, Becca. Or have one of The Others
do it for you.

Karen



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http://www.cupcaked.com/reviews ®
(...and leave off the nice ship to e-mail)